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24: 12pm-1pm thread!

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Ristamar

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Sweet episode, but
of course some bitch has to be a mole. I hope Bauer gets a chance to put a bullet in her skull, Nina Myers style.

I agree with Darien, though, seems a bit too blatant. There's probably a twist.
 

Grizzlyjin

Supersonic, idiotic, disconnecting, not respecting, who would really ever wanna go and top that
She might not be a terrorist mole. It's possible she works for another corporation or something, wanting information on MF's new contract. I don't know...we'll see what happens.
 

Phoenix

Member
Hollywood said:
Yeah, you never know where its going to go ... at least we know their master plan ... and its a big one.

Doesn't it usually take longer for the master plan to finally be unveiled?
 

Lonestar

I joined for Erin Brockovich discussion
who knows, there still could be a 3rd plan. 1st 3 seasons had 2, maybe they wanna try for 3.
 

Mooreberg

Member
Grizzlyjin said:
She might not be a terrorist mole. It's possible she works for another corporation or something, wanting information on MF's new contract. I don't know...we'll see what happens.

Wasn't she the one that suggested less invasive interrorgation for Heller's son? I think they're probably in on something together, though maybe not the plot to attack the country. The type of info they'd be privy to could make them a lot of money if they played their cards right.
 

Piecake

Member
Mooreberg said:
Wasn't she the one that suggested less invasive interrorgation for Heller's son? I think they're probably in on something together, though maybe not the plot to attack the country. The type of info they'd be privy to could make them a lot of money if they played their cards right.

No, the black dude suggested that.
 

alejob

Member
Maybe she is working for that white guy that Audry is trying to identify. And yeah it was Curtis the one who suggested to use the disorentation technique.
 

alejob

Member
Lonestar said:
who knows, there still could be a 3rd plan. 1st 3 seasons had 2, maybe they wanna try for 3.
What could be bigger than this. Now the biggest mistery is who is behind this plan. Also, are they going to have any special guest play a special role?
 

Wario64

works for Gamestop (lol)
Someone call that phone number from last week's episode and bitch about them for using another mole
 

android

Theoretical Magician
aisha tyler. so beautiful. so evil
bio4.jpg
 

VPhys

Member
Actually just throwing that out there. It's unlkiely she'll be a double agent since we just had that situation last season. It'll be interesting to find out what her "cause" is though.
 

drohne

hyperbolically metafictive
metal gear bauer kicked ass. :eek:

i dunno about this nuclear power plant override thing. i'm not one of those ridiculous people who expect 24 to be at all realistic, or really to do anything besides ratchet up suspense in novel ways, but it just seems...kinda silly. but i guess they had to one-up a nuclear bomb and a viral outbreak somehow. and it's cool that the whole trial was just a cover.
 

Wario64

works for Gamestop (lol)
The Pres should just make an annoucement to the nation to shut down all computers. Haha, who am I kidding...would that ever happen? :p
 

Amir0x

Banned
drohne said:
metal gear bauer kicked ass. :eek:

i dunno about this nuclear power plant override thing. i'm not one of those ridiculous people who expect 24 to be at all realistic, or really to do anything besides ratchet up suspense in novel ways, but it just seems...kinda silly. but i guess they had to one-up a nuclear bomb and a viral outbreak somehow. and it's cool that the whole trial was just a cover.

in the next season of 24... Jack Bauer has to single handedly stop a terrorist from hijacking a meteor and crashing it into the United States.
 
Amir0x said:
in the next season of 24... Jack Bauer has to single handedly stop a terrorist from hijacking a meteor and crashing it into the United States.

That's too lightweight a job for Jack. Jack needs a real challenge. Jack'd snipe the terrorists with a high powerd sniper rifle from the International Space Station, hop into a reentry capsule, and be back in time to make out with the Secretary of Offense's daughter.
(Note I haven't seen 12pm-1pm yet)

One thing I'd like to see is Tony vs. Jack as true enemies. Of course Tony would have to die since Jack is the star but after reading Tony's background file, and looking at Tony's behavior through the course of the show probably one of the few people who could come close to hanging with Jack is Tony, especially now that Tony is probably all hardened and bitter from
doing time in prison
. After all Tony
got shot in the neck, underwent a serious surgery, and was back heading up CTU as sharp as ever all in the span of like 2 hours.
Not quite as badass as Jack's
rising from the dead, walking the earth and wacking terrorists
but still pretty hardcore.

btw - don't mention Ronnie, he got lucky and unlike Tony
he died from his gunshot wound
 

Phoenix

Member
Amir0x said:
in the next season of 24... Jack Bauer has to single handedly stop a terrorist from hijacking a meteor and crashing it into the United States.

WTF, next season the aliens are coming and Jack has to stop the invasion... or did they save that script for the movie?
 

Meier

Member
These first 6 episodes have been mindblowingly good but the whole mole thing is definitely annoying. I mean come on...
 

AssMan

Banned
Thanks Wario! You seriously rock.


Anyway, is it possible that Heller's son
knows something about MF and the briefcase, because he did say that the "info" he knows had nothing to do with his father's kidnapping.
 
Heller is one badass mofo....

After about a 2 minute long happy moment with his son... "I am authorizing you to do whatever you think is necessary to get the information out of my son...""
 

DarienA

The black man everyone at Activision can agree on
Refresh my memory.... what company has Heller's son going to go protest in front of at the beginning?

And... ok Chloe is gone... but have we been given update on her hacker friend?

Jack can't stop an alien invasion Will Smith already did that... Jack has to do something bigger... Maybe aliens kidnap the pres and Jack has to go on to an alien planet... kill ALL the aliens with... 3 clips of ammo and a bunch of throwing knives... THEN rescue the pres?
 

Archaix

Drunky McMurder
DarienA said:
Refresh my memory.... what company has Heller's son going to go protest in front of at the beginning?


I think it was lockheed-martin.

As for the knowledge that Hippie Heller has, I'm sure it's just what they speculated first, that he told somebody his dad would be meeting him at his house, and that somebody happened to have terrorist connections. Of course, by "sure", I mean that I have no idea and just wouldn't think he's actually been helping them directly.

It can't be some incidental knowledge about the train crash and the briefcase, because the question that showed up on the polygraph as a questionable response had to do with whether he told anybody about his meeting with his father.
 

Chony

Member
DarienA said:
Refresh my memory.... what company has Heller's son going to go protest in front of at the beginning?

And... ok Chloe is gone... but have we been given update on her hacker friend?

Jack can't stop an alien invasion Will Smith already did that... Jack has to do something bigger... Maybe aliens kidnap the pres and Jack has to go on to an alien planet... kill ALL the aliens with... 3 clips of ammo and a bunch of throwing knives... THEN rescue the pres?

Joanna Dark already did that. It needs to be bigger.

He needs to fight terrorists riding on dinosaurs. Robot ninja dinosaurs.
 

DarienA

The black man everyone at Activision can agree on
Fast Monday Night Ratings

FOX and ABC tied for third in households at 6.1/9, although FOX brought in a larger total audience.

and

CBS moved in front at 9 p.m. with reruns of "Everybody Loves Raymond," 9.9/14, and "Two and a Half Men," 9.2/13. NBC's "Las Vegas," 8.0/12, took second over FOX's "24," 7.2/10.

Reuters article

NBC's "Medium" and Fox's "24" hung tough but CBS won the Monday night primetime contest with solid showings from "Everybody Loves Raymond," "Two and a Half Men" and "CSI: Miami."

and

At 9 p.m., the "Fear Factor" lead-in helped NBC's "Las Vegas" (12.5 million, 4.8/11) edge out "24" (11.5 million, 4.5/10) for second place in the hour behind CBS' "Raymond" (19.4 million, 6.4/14) and "Men" (18.2 million, 6.1/13).
 

keiichi

Member
Fox needs to get rid of that Trading Spouses crap before 24.. WTF are they thinking.. it isn't even the same demographic..
 

Wario64

works for Gamestop (lol)
24 death count so far, taken from the 24 forums

24 Graveyard (combined seasons 1, 2, 3, and 4)
(does not include Kevin Kelly as we're not sure what happened or 2 extra Delta agents (Wayne said 6, even though I only know of the 4 (I think Nina just pulled some bodies)))
(does not include any hotel guests or any other LA residents infected with virus unless confirmed to be dead by end of season 3)
(does not include Victor Rovner, Jason Parks or Larry Rogow because I believe they're alive)
(does not include dog or fish)
(does not include Alan York or infected bodies(died "out of bounds")
(also does not include Lyle Gibson or Martina or Vesna or Victor-look-alike or the six field agents killed in Operation Nightfall or several Albanian enemies because they previously died)
(does not include 2 FBI agents shot in raid, I believe they wear appropriate protection, just get knocked down)
CTU death count: 53 (9 in season 1, 35 in season 2, 8 in season 3, 1 in season 4)
Jack Bauer kills: 72 (14 in season 1, 30 in season 2, 15 in season 3, 13 in season 4)
Victim/Killer/Episode
SEASON 1
1-252. 747 Passengers/Miranda Stapleton/1
253. Stewardess 1/Miranda Stapleton/1
254. Martin Belkin/Miranda Stapleton/1
255. Stewardess 2/Miranda Stapleton/1
256. Pilot/Miranda Stapleton/1
257. Co-Pilot/Miranda Stapleton/1
258. Scott Baylor/Dunlop Shooter 1/2
259-260. Dunlop Shooter 1-2/Jack Bauer/2
261. Richard Walsh/Sniper/2
262. Bridgit/"Jonathan"/3
263. Jessie Hampton/Greg Penticoff/4
264. Dan Mounts/Ira Gaines/5
265. Janet York/Kevin Caroll/6
266. Jamey Farrell/Nina Myers/10 (wounded in 9)
267. Ted Cofell/Jack Bauer/11 (can also accredit to Ted himself)
268. Elijah Stram/Teri Bauer/11
269. George Farragamo/Carl Webb's men/12
270-271. Henchman by van 1-2/Jack Bauer/12
272. Neill/Jack Bauer/13
273. Ira Gaines/Jack Bauer/13
274-275. Henchman at transfer 1-2/Alexis Drazen/14
276. Kevin Caroll/Alexis Drazen/14
277. Robert Ellis/Strangler/15
278. Guard in truck/Jovan Myovic/16
279. Guard mowing lawn/Jovan Myovic/16
280. Daniels/Jovan Myovic/16
281. Jeff (Ron) Breeher/Jovan Myovic/16
282. Mishko Suba/Ted Paulson/16
283. Williams/Jovan Myovic/18
284. Alan Morgan/Teddy Hanlin/18
285. Craig/SWAT Man/19
286. Chris (Phil's friend)/Jovan Myovic/19
287. Jovan Myovic/Tony Almeida/19
288. UDF Guard/Harris' Men/21
289. Ray/Harris' Men/21
290. Lawrence/Harris' Men/21
291-292. UDF Technician 1-2/Harris' Men/21
293. UDF Maintenance Man/Harris' Men/21
294. Mark De Salvo/Andre Drazen/21 (also killed by Jack's stupidity)
295. Police Cruiser Driver/Serbian/21
296. Mila Luminovic/Victor Drazen/22 (also by Jack indirectly)
297. Ted (Derek) Paulson/Jovan Myovic/22 (shot in 16)
298. Nicola Luminovic/Victor Drazen/22 (also by his own idiocy)
299. Alexis Drazen/Elizabeth Nash/23 (wounded in 17)
300. Harris/Jack Bauer/24
301-304. Harris' Man 1-4/Jack Bauer/24
305. Andre Drazen/Jack Bauer/24
306. Victor Drazen/Jack Bauer/24
307. ITS Floorwoman/Nina Myers/24
308. Teri Bauer/Nina Myers/24
309-310. Security Guard 1-2/Nina Myers/24
SEASON 2
311. Marshall Goren/Jack Bauer/25
312-313. Bomb Maker 1-2/Terrorists/27
314. Danny/Eddie Grant/27
315. Wolpole/Machine Gunner/27
316. Machine Gunner/Sgt. Arroyo/27
317. Agent Clark/Eddie, Scott, Chris/27
318. Agent Ivers/Eddie, Scott, Chris/27
319. Agent Rappel/Eddie, Scott, Chris/27
320-335. CTU Agent 1-16/Eddie, Scott, Chris/27
336-343. CTU Agent 17-24/Eddie, Scott, Chris/28 (wounded in 27)
344. Scott/Jack Bauer/28
345. Chris (Cowboy)/Jack Bauer/28
346. Eddie Grant/Jack Bauer/28
347. Carla Matheson/Gary Matheson/28
348. Joseph Wald/Joseph Wald/28
349-350. CTU Agent 25-26/Eddie, Scott, Chris/29 (wounded in 27)
351. Paula Schaeffer/Eddie, Scott, Chris/29 (wounded in 27)
352. Officer Salim/Unknown/29
353. Ambassador/Unknown/29
354-355. Chopper Pilot 1-2/Unknown/29
356-357. Security Force 1-2/Unknown/29
358. Thrift Store Gunman 1/Jack Bauer/31
359-360. Thrift Store Gunman 2-3/FBI Agent/31
361. Thrift Store Saleswoman/FBI Agent/31
362. Thrift Store Guard/Nina Myers/31
363. Marko Khutami/Basheer/32
364. Basheer/Marko Khutami/32
365. Mamud Faheen/Nina Myers/32
366. Capt. Butcher/Coral Snake/33
367. Co-Pilot/Coral Snake/33
368. Agent Harris/Coral Snake/33
369. Rick Phillips/Coral Snake/33
370-372. Coral Snakes 1-3/Jack Bauer/33
373-376. Coral Snakes 4-7/CTU S&R/33
377. Paul Koplin/Syed Ali/33
378-383. Coral Snakes 8-13/Jonathan Wallace/34
384. Mohsen/Mohsen/34
385. Agent Macaby/Marie Warner/34
386. Agent Richards/Marie Warner/34
387. Reza Naiyeer/Marie Warner/34
388. Muslim/Syed Ali?/35
389. Van Driver/CTU Agent/38
390. George Mason/George Mason/39
391. Syed Ali/Jonathan Wallace/40
392. Frank Davies/Ramon Garcia/41 (wounded in 40)
393. Attacker 1/Jack Bauer/42
394. Attacker 2/Jonathan Wallace/42
395-396. Attacker 3-4/Jack Bauer/42
397. Attacker 5/Yusuf Auda/42
398. Attacker 6/Jonathan Wallace/42
399-401. Attackers 7-9/Jack Bauer/42
402. Attacker 10/Kate Warner/42
403-405. Attackers 11-13/Jack Bauer/42
406. Dissent Leader/National Guard/42
407. Middle Eastern Boy/National Guard/42
408. Jonathan Wallace/Attacker 14/42
409. Attacker 15/Jack Bauer/43
410. Trauma patient/Attacker 16/44
411. Ronnie Stark/Raymond/44
412-413. Attacker 16-17/Jack Bauer/44
414. Raymond O'Hara/Jack Bauer/44
415. Yusuf Auda/White supremicist/44 (wounded in 43)
416. Ralph/Jack Bauer/44
417. Police Officer/Gary Matheson/46
418. Gary Matheson/Kim Bauer/46
419. Alex Hewitt/Jack Bauer/47
420. Eve/Peter Kingsley/47
421. Scott/Jack Bauer/48
422-427. Kingsley aides 1-6/Jack Bauer/48
428. Peter Kingsley/CTU Backup/48
SEASON 3
429. Shaye/Ramón Salazar/49
430. Zach's partner/Chase Edmunds/50
431. Luis Annicon/Downey Guard 1/51
432-433. Downey Guard 2-3/Peel/53
434. Downey Guard 4/Downey Guard 4/53
435. Peel/Jack Bauer/53
436. Prisoner 1/Jack Bauer/53
437. Prisoner 2/Chase Edmunds/53
438. Prisoner 3/Downey Guard 5/53
439-440. Prisoner 4-5/Downey Guard 6/53
441. Prisoner 6/Downey Guard 7/53
442. Prisoner 7/Downey Guard 8/53
443. Captor 1/CDC CTU 1/53
444. Gomez/CDC CTU 1/53
445. Captor 2/CDC CTU 2/53
446. Pedro/Jack Bauer/55
447. Ted Packard/Ted Packard/56
448. Rafael Gutierrez/Salazar Henchman 1/56
449. Salazar Henchman 2/Claudia/58
450. Eduardo/Chase Edmunds/58
451-452. Salazar Henchman 1, 3/Chase Edmunds/58
453. Claudia/Hector Salazar/58
454. Nina's Guard 1/Nina's Guard 2/58
455-457. Nina's Guard 2-4/Jack Bauer/58
458. Nina's Guard 5/Nina Myers/58
458. Hector Salazar/Ramón Salazar/60
460. Salazar Henchman 1/Chase Edmunds/60
461. Salazar Henchman 2/Jack Bauer/60
462. Salazar Henchman 3/Chase Edmunds/60
463-464. Salazar Henchman 4-5/Jack Bauer/60
465-469. Salazar Henchman 6-10/Delta Pilot/60
410. Ramón Salazar/Michael Amador/60
471. Captain Reiss/Amador Henchman/60
472-474. Delta 1-3/Amador Henchman/60
475. Alan Milliken/Sherry Palmer/61
476-478. Doctor 1-3/Nina Myers/62
479-480. CTU Medic 1-2/Nina Myers/62
481. CTU Security Guard 3/Nina Myers/62
482. Nina Myers/Jack Bauer/62
483. CTU Lt. Wong/Michael Amador/63
484. Amador Guard/Jack Bauer/63
485. Security Guard/Marcus Alvers/63
486. Danny/Michelle Dessler/64
487. Michael Amador/Steven Saunders/64
488. Driver/Steven Saunders/64
489-490. MI-6 Agent 1-2/Young/65
491. MI-6 Agent 3/Gunner/65
492. MI-6 Agent 4/Gunner/65
493. Trevor Tomlinson/Gunner/65
494. Diane White/Gunner/65
495. Anson/Jack Bauer/65
496. Young/Jack Bauer/65
497. Gael Ortega/Marcus Alvers/65
498. Guard 1/Agent Gibbs/66
499. Guard 2/Agent Baker/66
500-502. Guard 3-5/Chase Edmunds/66
503. Ryan Chappelle/Jack Bauer/66
504-505. Hotel guest 1-2/Marcus Alvers/67
506. Kidnapper/Kim Bauer/67
507. Osterlind/Stephen Saunders/68
508. CTU Agent/Saunders Henchman 1/68
509-524. Hotel guest 3-18/Marcus Alvers/70
525. Guard 6/Michelle Dessler/70
526-527. Saunders Henchman 2-3/Tony Almeida/70
528-529. Saunders Henchman 4-5/CTU Commando Team/70
530. Chopper Pilot/F-18 Pilot/70
531-532. Chopper Gunner 1-2/F-18 Pilot/70
533. San Francisco courrier/SFPD Sniper/71
534. Denver courrier/Denver police officer/71
535. Sherry Palmer/Julia Milliken/71
536. Julia Milliken/Julia Milliken/71
537. Stephen Saunders/Theresa Ortega/72
538-539. LAPD Patrol 1-2/Arthur Rabens/72
540. Frank Cassar/Arthur Rabens/72
541. Arthur Rabens/Jack Bauer/72
SEASON 4
542. Engineer/Dar/73
543-570. Commuters 1-28/Dar/73
571-572. Body guards 1-2/Dar/73
573. Brody/Dar/73
574-575. Programmers 1-2/Terrorist crew/73
576. Melanie/Terrorist crew/73
577-581. Secret Service Agents 1-5/Ambush crew/73
582. Mrs. Paige/Kalil Hassan/74
583. Ronnie Lobell/Kalil Hassan/74
584. Parking attendant/Kalil/74
585-586. Thug 1-2/Jack Bauer/75
587-588. Thug 3-4/James Heller/76
589. Debbie Pendleton/Dina Araz/76
590. Kalil Hassan/Kalil Hassan/77
591-593. Guards 1-3/Jack Bauer/78
594. Executor/Jack Bauer/78
595-596. Trial attendees 1-2/Jack Bauer/78
597. Guard 4/Jack Bauer/78
598. Guard 5/James Heller/78
599-600. Guards 6-7/Jack Bauer/78
601. Guard 8/James Heller/78
602. Guard 9/Jack Bauer/78
603-605. Guards 10-12/Marine Chopper Gunner/78
606-610. Guards 13-17/Marine Rappellers/78
611. Omar/Jack Bauer/78
612. Sarik/Behrooz Araz/78
 

alejob

Member
I think I figured out whats up with Hellers son. He told his gay lover about his daddy coming over but he's not out of the closet so he aint telling. :D
 

Hollywood

Banned
DarienA said:
Fast Monday Night Ratings

FOX and ABC tied for third in households at 6.1/9, although FOX brought in a larger total audience.

and

CBS moved in front at 9 p.m. with reruns of "Everybody Loves Raymond," 9.9/14, and "Two and a Half Men," 9.2/13. NBC's "Las Vegas," 8.0/12, took second over FOX's "24," 7.2/10.

Reuters article

NBC's "Medium" and Fox's "24" hung tough but CBS won the Monday night primetime contest with solid showings from "Everybody Loves Raymond," "Two and a Half Men" and "CSI: Miami."

and

At 9 p.m., the "Fear Factor" lead-in helped NBC's "Las Vegas" (12.5 million, 4.8/11) edge out "24" (11.5 million, 4.5/10) for second place in the hour behind CBS' "Raymond" (19.4 million, 6.4/14) and "Men" (18.2 million, 6.1/13).

Damnit ... 24 is better than all those shows. Re-runs of Everybody Loves Raymond? Comeon. I bet 24 beats this Las Vegas show or whatever it is.
 

Memles

Member
I figured that must be the case but fuck that's just insane... give Shoreh the Emmy already!

Fucking right. My god. I thought it was a great casting move picking up such a talented actress, but she has done an amazing job with that part. Sure, by all accounts it appears that she will likely not last the entire season as a major player (See the death tally above, and fucking common sense), but dammnit if she hasn't managed to be so damn creepy yet at the same time make you really feel bad for her situation. It's a great role, and she better get an Emmy Nom for it, at the very least. 24 is too great a show to have only Kiefer be nominated, and she's been the first supporting player to REALLY step it up in one of these sideplots. It's been stunning television.

In other news, Fuck you 24. Fuck you Brian Grazer. Fuck you for ruining an entire episode for me in the last 30 seconds. I don't care if you make it obvious that someone is bad, and then they are, somehow tricking us out. I don't even care if it ends up that this is all some sort of intergovernment scheme, or they're tricking us out. All I know is that I spent 40 minutes watching great television, a minute seeing a really cool next plot development and then about 30 seconds where my only comments were "Oh god" and "Fuck". I also didn't enjoy the husband's little evil glare. I have trouble enough caring about Jack's girlfriends, and now you want to UP its screentime with another character being involved? Fuck you, yet again.

I seem bitter, but I really enjoyed myself for the rest of it. It was an awesome opening, a nice, easy transition into the next plot (That didn't seem like a transition episode due to the kickass opening) and the Family stuff has remained DAMN compelling television. It is too bad that they went and pullled a predictable stunt like that. Shame.
 

CloudNL

Member
ddkawaii said:
FOX is really trigger happy when it comes to cancelling shows. During Day 1, 2, or 3 has 24 ever been "on the ropes" and close to cancellation?

The ratings are a lot higher than the previous seasons. This season is the best watched yet! 24 will have a American Idol as lead-in for a couple of weeks in the future.

And 24 is still FOX's best watched scripted series.
24 is doing very well in other countries, and it sells like hotcakes on DVD.

Nothing to fear!
 
Did anyone laugh their ass off near the end of the episode and they were doing the 4 box cut away thingy where they show multiple events going on...and in one box they just show Heller's son getting prepped for his sensory deprivation, and he's just going insane? My dad and I laughed our asses off at his dumb ass.
 

DarienA

The black man everyone at Activision can agree on
PuertoRicanJuice said:
Did anyone laugh their ass off near the end of the episode and they were doing the 4 box cut away thingy where they show multiple events going on...and in one box they just show Heller's son getting prepped for his sensory deprivation, and he's just going insane? My dad and I laughed our asses off at his dumb ass.

I laugh in every episode whenever they show Heller's soon with the sensory dep stuff on.....
 

Ristamar

Member
I chuckled a bit, as well. Heller's son reminds me of Ashton Kutcher for some reason. And I'd like to see Ashton Kutcher tortured.
 

Memles

Member
CloudNL said:
The ratings are a lot higher than the previous seasons. This season is the best watched yet! 24 will have a American Idol as lead-in for a couple of weeks in the future.

The clip shows don't tend to do so well, though, but alas.

There were questions only about the first season of 24. There, the 13th episode (Last of the initial order) very easily could have ended the series. But, the hype was large enough that Fox continued the series in spite of low ratings. They picked up as the season progressed, and due to the critical acclaim a second season was ordered. And, it's been safe ever since, really.
 
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