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[CO_Andy]

Nosferatu

Breath of Fire 4

 

[Lork]

It looks more like this.

or

Which look even better if you zoom out to a more accurate size.

So in other words no, it didn't have the filter.

 

[TheRedSnifit]

That doesn't account for every single screenshot, gif and video of the game on the internet having what appears to be that exact same, somewhat idiosyncratic style of filtering applied to it. It's the "default" for Metal Slug, where for just about any other old game, "raw" screenshots are what you expect to find unless somebody has gone out of their way to apply a filter to it.

Case in point: literally every single other screenshot or gif of an old pixel art game in this thread.

I'm guessing that all the ports of the Metal Slug games have the filter enabled by default. Pretty sure the original arcade version of MS6 had a filter on as well, and that MS7 came with one as well.

I don't know why other older games don't have filters on by default. Maybe their fans really like jaggles.

 

[Kain-Nosgoth]

Man, i miss the quality of neogeo's 2D....

 

[Lork]

I'm guessing that all the ports of the Metal Slug games have the filter enabled by default. Pretty sure the original arcade version of MS6 had a filter on as well, and that MS7 came with one as well.

I don't know why other older games don't have filters on by default. Maybe their fans really like jaggles.

That makes sense I suppose.

As for other games, most of them don't have a modern presence unlike Metal Slug with its wide array of recent ports and sequels, so their "look" is whatever you get when you press the screenshot key on an emulator.

 

[2+2=5]

It looks more like this.

or

Which look even better if you zoom out to a more accurate size.

unlike what the second screen says imo the problem aren't indies but those pixel art "purists" that want to see razor shap pixels(and that indies try to make happy), those who lived in the 8/16bit era know that games tried to look as round and cartoony as possible(as it's visible in the screens you posted).

 

[dogen]

So in other words no, it didn't have the filter.

Course not.

unlike what the second screen says imo the problem aren't indies but those pixel art "purists" that want to see razor shap pixels(and that indies try to make happy), those who lived in the 8/16bit era know that games tried to look as round and cartoony as possible(as it's visible in the screens you posted).

I think the only problem (and it's a minor one imo) is that every game that uses pixel art doesn't include a decent, toggleable, CRT shader, or at least a scanline filter.

 

[hesido]

What grinds my gears, with the pixel art on the high res displays, is when they "rotate" the objects as they are, so that the whole blocks of pixels are at an angle, instead of proper animation. (flappy bird could be given as an immediate example, when the bird takes a nose dive.)

 

[2+2=5]

Course not.



I think the only problem (and it's a minor one imo) is that every game that uses pixel art doesn't include a decent, toggleable, CRT shader, or at least a scanline filter.

Adding a shader wouldn't solve anything(but i'm in for more options!), 8/16bit games were made with CRT in mind so they used to take advantage of CRT's features, the same can't be said for indies so the results wouldn't be the same.

What grinds my gears, with the pixel art on the high res displays, is when they "rotate" the objects as they are, so that the whole blocks of pixels are at an angle, instead of proper animation. (flappy bird could be given as an immediate example, when the bird takes a nose dive.)

Yes, things like this:

are impressive but not as good looking as more simple but good pixel art imo.

 

[TheRedSnifit]

What grinds my gears, with the pixel art on the high res displays, is when they "rotate" the objects as they are, so that the whole blocks of pixels are at an angle, instead of proper animation. (flappy bird could be given as an immediate example, when the bird takes a nose dive.)

I think MS6 and MS7 used this a bit for the bosses, but it's not too noticeable.

 

[dadjumper]

Admittedly I haven't really played much of it, but I really really like what Onore no Shinzuru Michi wo Yuke (PSP) went for. It's all based on the Ukiyo-e style of wood block prints, to the point of direct reference (see the skeleton above as a reference to Takiyasha the Witch and the Skeleton Spectre). This is always a fun game to throw into threads like this because it's fairly obscure but also beautiful.

 

[Masked Devil]

Always love WayForward's animation-quality art on their games:

Shantae - 1/2 Genie Hero

Ducktales Remastered

Mighty Switch Force Hyperdrive

 

[AAK]

It's really easy to miss, but this is actually a 3D game with some fantastic shader effects. One of the devs had an interesting talk about it at GDC a while back.

No GGXrd is not a 3D game, it's 2D. There is no gameplay involved in the Z axis. Everything is contained in an XY plane.

 

[Renekton]

No GGXrd is not a 3D game, it's 2D. There is no gameplay involved in the Z axis. Everything is contained in an XY plane.

It is 3D graphics.

 

[laxu]

Also almost everything on the amiga because many of its games had a dinstictive artstyle(not really representative but whatever)

I'm still waiting for someone to bring back the prevalent Amiga style you find in for example Cannon Fodder where everything is pretty high contrast so it looks like shadows are very deep. I remember this looking really nice on CRT displays.

Another thing I would love to see come back is the mid-era Sierra look with a very limited color palette:

Leisure Suit Larry 2

Codename: Iceman

Police Quest 2

 

[Magic Mushroom]

Jetpack Squad

Cuphead is the best looking game in this thread, but this looks amazing as well. Not just graphically but also in terms of gameplay.

 

[Fulge1973]

Cosmic Osmo, maybe the greatest game ever made for Mac.

 

[2+2=5]

Cosmic Osmo, maybe the greatest game ever made for Mac.

This reminded me that i really appreciate macintosh games(It's just 2 colors, black and white, no greys!)

(this is how they look on a CRT)

(and to a lesser extent spectrum games) because they show what talent can do with just 2 colors.

 

[AAK]

It is 3D graphics.

Where does the OP say anything about no 3D graphics being allowed?

 

[missile]

OP should update to 2D/3D art style.

 

[Peltz]

itsbeautiful.jpg

Subbing so hard.

Edit:



I was wondering the exact same thing so I did a bit of research. Unfortunately it seems it hasn't released yet, although it was announced back in 2015, hopefully it didn't get stuck in development limbo. It's from the devs of Intrusion 2, which is itself a pretty good and visually impressive game, so let me take advantage of this fact to post some images appropriate to this thread.

This looks really cool.

 

[StayDead]

Jumping on the SNK Bandwagon here, but Garou is beautiful.

 

[Peltz]

There's one thing that I've been wondering about for a while now. Your screenshots, like virtually all Metal Slug media out there appear to have some kind of interpolation filter applied to them. Even mame screenshots taken in the original resolution look like they have it. It's so prevalent that when I turn it off in ports/emulators that allow you to do so, the result actually looks "wrong" to me, which is the polar opposite of what my preferences usually are with regard to pixel art.

My question is, does anybody know if this was the original intended look for Metal Slug? It's so universally prevalent that I'm starting to wonder if it was, even though it would be really weird for a game from that time period to apply filtering to itself.

You should check out this thread

http://m.neogaf.com/showthread.php?t=921436

and read up on 240p stuff.

 

[capitalCORN]

Where does the OP say anything about no 3D graphics being allowed?

The Topic and the OP strictly stipulate 2D games. If it didn't, I'd have a large mountain to share.

 

[DD]

 

[dogen]

Adding a shader wouldn't solve anything(but i'm in for more options!), 8/16bit games were made with CRT in mind so they used to take advantage of CRT's features, the same can't be said for indies so the results wouldn't be the same.

I think even if they aren't made with a crt in mind, they'll still look better that way.

 

[oni-link]

OP should update to 2D/3D art style.

Thread can be for whatever people feel like posting, there are no hard rules

Keep up the posting guys, some great examples

Some more from me:

Flinthook:

Stardew Valley:

Downwell:

 

[Wichu]

Does Ghost Trick count? I can't tell if the animations are prerendered 2D sprites or real-time 3D.

 

[Morrigan Stark]

Pretty much all of my favourites have been posted already, but I might come up with some more later... Cosmic Star Heroine and Salt & Sanctuary screens incoming

Slain

Ori

Cuphead

Owlboy

Great taste!

Slain

You too. Slain is the fucking coolest looking game ever, I swear.

3 Wonders

Wow, I have the Saturn import version of this game! Pretty damn obscure. It was called in a 3-pack game called "Wonders Three" and that particular one was called "Roosters", IIRC. It played kind of like Ghouls N Ghosts but a bit more shooter-like.

 

[azyless]

God, this thread is so sexy. I feel like 2D games can really stand out compared to 3D ones.

 

[Eolz]

Jumping on the SNK Bandwagon here, but Garou is beautiful.

Concept art for this move

 

[Neoleo2143]

Does Ghost Trick count? I can't tell if the animations are prerendered 2D sprites or real-time 3D.

Nah, they're rotoscoped 3D models. They look fantastic though.

 

[CO_Andy]

El Shaddai. excuse the 3D perspective below

 

[Lemming_JRS]

Also almost everything on the amiga because many of its games had a dinstictive artstyle(not really representative but whatever)

This. And pretty much anything that Dan Malone did for the Bitmap Brothers in the Amiga era.

 

[Xliskin]

Outland

Slain

Ori

Cuphead

Owlboy

Hyper Light Drifter

Yoshi's Island

Sir you have a good taste

A fun, albeit brutally difficulty action/platformer.

what is with the user review is good ??

 

[Dinjoralo]

N++

... What? I think it looks good.
Had to edit because the picture was hosted on a site Neogaf don't like.

 

[missile]

Thread can be for whatever people feel like posting, there are no hard rules ...

yeah cool

 

[Eidjinn]

Wonder Project J2... although some of the games here are just... impossible to match!

 

[All Possible Ways]

Guys, please stop posting all these gorgeous indies. My backlog is too vast and my wallet too shallow.

 

[rackham]

Breath of fire iv
Hyper light drifter
Shovel knight
Super time force ultra

 

[nkarafo]

wrong thread

 

[MimiMe]

BITMAP BROTHERS

whenever I read that name, I get struck by nostalgia. Those guys <3


@OP
of course:

 

[AAK]

The Topic and the OP strictly stipulate 2D games. If it didn't, I'd have a large mountain to share.

And you think Guilty Gear is not a 2D game?

3D models != 2D game

 

[capitalCORN]

And you think Guilty Gear is not a 2D game?

3D models != 2D game

The point was already brought up already before you. And it does use dynamic angles.

 

[Kain-Nosgoth]

Wonder Project J2... although some of the games here are just... impossible to match!

never heard of this game before, this seems pretty cool! 2D n64 games were so rare!

 

[AAK]

The point was already brought up already before you. And it does use dynamic angles.

How does dynamic angles change the fact it's a 2D game?

 

[electroaffe]

I almost did forget this viewtiful game.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?p=57243784

 

[Triggerhappytel]

Muramasa The Demon Blade

Muramasa is a crazy beautiful game. It's the backgrounds which get me; they're so astonishingly pretty, and there's normally some lovely motion going on in them.

 

[nkarafo]

Muramasa is a crazy beautiful game. It's the backgrounds which get me; they're so astonishingly pretty, and there's normally some lovely motion going on in them.

I actually like Muramasa more than Dragon's Crowd visually.

 

[Arthea]

Muramasa indeed might be the most beautiful game, it just looks like art in motion.