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Ace Attorney 1-3 being re-released on 3DS in Japan
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Femmeworth
Banned
Sammy Samusu
Member
I hope they release some 3D screenshots, they have to showcase the main feature somehow.
Magicpaint
Member
I think it's very possible they'll re-release those on 3DS, especially IF this does well in Japan. Now as to whether they'll cross shores...well...
I kinda doubt it, given the apparent re-use of the iOS assets they'd have to do same again for three more games to hit those. I have my doubts.
I did see Ema in the trailer though. Was her case in the iOS game?
Magicpaint
Member
Yeah I actually thought about that after posting it and you have a point. Unless they plan to do another iOS collection I guess? And then follow it up with 3DS re-releases...
I do believe the DS exclusive case was included in the iOS version.
Keep playing. Don't hold your breath for Capcom anymore.
Yoshi
Headmaster of Console Warrior Jugendstrafanstalt
I don't see why they could not just do the remakes for 3DS, put the games in a 3DS collection and then port them over to phones to sell them there, too. If the first three games were successful on phones, it seems like a good idea actually.
Shotgun Kiss
Member
I hope this makes it here in the West. I have the iOS version, and while I don't deem it the abomination most people here do, the use of GBA music for 2 and 3 is incredibly disappointing. Honestly, I'd happily forgive everything else, but the DS music was much better.
I hope this features the DS music.
I hope this features the DS music.
Jo Shishido's Cheeks
Member
It looks as if they didn't reformat the games for widescreen and instead cropped the original images, hence the lack of headroom on Phoenix and Godot.
Lazy.
Out_Of_Ammo
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I just found a new wallpaper for my phone.
Starwolf_UK
Member
I hope there is an option to change that to borders* (I'm not holding hope of Capcom redrawing backgrounds to add stuff) as cropped and upscaled sprites (like trying to play DS mode stuff in non-1:1 but worse) is not the ideal way to enjoy this.
Edit: Though maybe it downscaled HD version sprites instead (would explain the missing frames
) as it does look clean.*-Incidentally, didn't the WiiWare releases do this.
If there's no such option and and there's only cropped images... yeah, I will just replay my originals.
Hoping that isn't the case. (and it comes here)
Shadow Hog
Member
I could've sworn the Judge's gavel animation was smoother than that.
Having not played the iOS version, I'd still say it was; somebody mentioned a character exclusive to that case (Angel), and how one of her animations was missing a frame.
See how much they are cropping:
Upscaled, but same pose:
Dealbreaker?
Seems to be closer to the GBA. They do have a closer aspect ratio to each other than to the DS.
GBA Godot:
Femmeworth
Banned
You'd think it would be easy to just give the players an aspect ratio option. Cappy pls.
calc84maniac
Member
It's like the GBA version but even wider. You can't see all of Godot's left elbow in either the GBA or DS versions, but it's there in the 3DS shot.
I don't think I have a problem with the cropping based on the above.Seems to be closer to the GBA. They do have a closer aspect ratio to each other than to the DS.
GBA Godot:
I'm still concerned about art quality, animation, and music, though.
Actually, it's cut off a bit higher on the bottom, but the top crop looks identical. But it is indeed also wider.
But you can see the end of Phoenix's arm on the left side of the DS shot, but cut off in the 3DS shot.
Weird stuff.
I'd much prefer top and bottom to not be cropped though and keep to as close DS versions as possible.
Having looked harder based on your point, I don't think the screen cropping is directly comparable, since they're using scalable high-res assets now and positioning them differently in the scene.
The shots may even be the left eye of a 3D image or something similar to that, which is going to shift everything around.
Poltergust
Member
Oh man, now that we know that this game is gonna use the iOS sprites, I'm worried about the animation quality. What if they don't bother fixing it?
You can see the animation quality in the trailer. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bPmZlk7oOOM
Poltergust
Member
It... doesn't look fixed at all from what I can see. =/
Adam_Roman
Member
At 0:34 in the bottom right, Ema appears to blink. That's something at least, right?
Poltergust
Member
It's missing a frame. Almost every character has 2 blinking frames. It looks weird to see her eyes shut like that with no frame in between.
EDIT: Still, that blinking frame is new (just checked), so maybe they'll finish translating all the animations this time. It at least shows that they're not simply porting over the iOS sprites and calling it a day.
Ugh, ok. That's the real proof right there. The aspect ratio is not a deal breaker, imo. It's basically GBA which is how the game was designed anyway.
But animation? That's a huge part of this series. And chop-chop-chop instead of smooth is inexcusable. It looked bad on iOS, it looks bad on 3DS.
Bad port, confirmed. No hyperbole required.
Original of that blinking:
But animation? That's a huge part of this series. And chop-chop-chop instead of smooth is inexcusable. It looked bad on iOS, it looks bad on 3DS.
Bad port, confirmed. No hyperbole required.
Original of that blinking:
Poltergust
Member
The Bankslammer
Member
Oh, it has the missing animation frames from the iOS version?
urrrrrg maybe not then :/
urrrrrg maybe not then :/
Poltergust
Member
I don't think people should pass judgment until the product is released, at least. I know this is Capcom we're talking about here, but I'm gonna remain optimistic.
Don't you mean haaaaangh?
Relaxed Muscle
Member
They fucked up this?
LOL
Fuck you crapcom. No buy.
LOL
Fuck you crapcom. No buy.
Reluctant-Hero
Member
So as someone who just started to play the first PW:AA game on their 3DS today, should I just move along with purchasing the rest of the series?
Also, is the Miles Edgeworth game worth a purchase?
Also, is the Miles Edgeworth game worth a purchase?
Femmeworth
Banned
The animations are off because the concept artists would not have drawn out every frame of the animations, just the key frames.
Edit: Also there would have been changes as the art team transitioned the drawings into sprites and added details not in the concept art.
Edit: Also there would have been changes as the art team transitioned the drawings into sprites and added details not in the concept art.
Poltergust
Member
I'll say wait and see for the first question. Since you just started playing the first game, it'll be a while before you feel the need to play the other games of the series.
A definite yes for the second question.
Sorry, I don't buy that. The animation quality is completely different between characters. For example, Franziska transitioned into her HD sprites flawlessly, while Maya has most of her animation frames cut.
Unless he gets totally hooked like me. I can't believe I still replay these linear games, but they are just too good!
I was lucky in that Justice For All was out by the time I finished the first game. But the wait for the third game was unbearable. My roommate and I played the fan translated GBA 3-1 case to satiate our need for more.
Femmeworth
Banned
There's also the possibility that they lost some of the concept art.
Capcom can't rip the animation sprites from their own games? lol
Zero-Crescent
Member
I can deal with the worse animations, but the deal-breaker for me would be if they messed up the music again (i.e. Using the GBA tracks and removing Pearl's theme).
Poltergust
Member
That doesn't make sense either. If that's the case, then a lot of animations would be missing those "key frames" you mentioned.
I think that the people who did the HD Trilogy were simply lazy. I mean, given the overall quality of the port, it's not a rash assumption to make.