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Ace Attorney Investigations 2 [DS] Actually Definitely Not Coming to the West
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ShockingAlberto
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I am more and more leaning toward the theory that some severe belt-tightening is going on at Capcom.MechaX said:
Femmeworth
Banned
Indeed, what a shame.MechaX said:
Considering all of the talent they have been bleeding, it doesn't look like they have learned anything.ShockingAlberto said:
Jive Turkey
Unconfirmed Member
This is karma coming around to bite people in the ass for saying something so stupid.MechaX said:
...Unfortunately there's a bunch of us who are getting hit with the collateral damage.
Even if that's true, the worst Ace Attorney game is still a lot better than most other games. That said, I don't recall the fanbase hating AAI that much (pretty sure either Justice for All or Apollo Justice got the most hate). I think they're all excellent games, though.bon said:
From The Dust
Banned
I heard the first game sold less than Okamiden. I kinda blame the audience on that one then :lol
Electivirus
Member
Odd. I'm pretty sure Okamiden had no advertising...
Masked Man
I said wow
Well, that's annoying.
Granted, GK1/AAI wasn't perfect--as has been made perfectly clear already--but it was far from a "bad" game. I had thought about importing it (I imported GK1), so I guess this just seals the deal. Oh, Capcom...
Granted, GK1/AAI wasn't perfect--as has been made perfectly clear already--but it was far from a "bad" game. I had thought about importing it (I imported GK1), so I guess this just seals the deal. Oh, Capcom...
Beelzeboss
Member
People could barely find the first game outside of amazon and gamestop it's no wonder why it didn't sell well.
now we get blamed for their mistakes
now we get blamed for their mistakes
DidntKnowJack
Member
I just want to add another "fuck you" to Capcom. Now I'm sorry I bought SSFIV 3D. Fuck you square in the ear.
Femmeworth
Banned
I was thinking earlier, why hasn't Capcom released an Ace Attorney compilation, at least in the US? Since it is such a story-driven series, with each new entry it becomes harder and more daunting for a newcomer to get into the series. It hasn't been impossible to obtain all of the games in the series, but we are talking about a series that spans four main entries and a spin-off in one generation. I realize that's why they started releasing the previous games on Wiiware and iOS, but that was last year and already too late. Ideally they should have at least released a compilation of the first three games sometime before the release of Ace Attorney Apollo Justice.
Sgt.Pepper
Banned
That's how bad AAi1 bombed.Electivirus said:
ShockingAlberto
Member
Yo.ninj4junpei said:
Dark Schala
Eloquent Princess
No way! I'm pissed. I liked AAI a lot; just the last case was iffy.
First Last Ranker and now this? What the hell, Capcom?!
First Last Ranker and now this? What the hell, Capcom?!
Femmeworth
Banned
ShockingAlberto said:
You completely missed my point.
ShockingAlberto
Member
No, I got it.ninj4junpei said:
You completely missed my point.
They didn't release a compilation because they can then resell the games piecemeal on other services. It was a calculated, though perhaps incorrect, decision.
Hours Left
Member
This is ridiculous and unacceptable. If they think fans are just gonna take this, they are mistaken.
If anyone has a Capcom Unity account, and you want to let them know your frustrations due to this ludicrous decision, there is a topic about it here:
http://www.capcom-unity.com/ask_cap..._You_Localizing_Ace_Attorney_Investigations_2
If anyone has a Capcom Unity account, and you want to let them know your frustrations due to this ludicrous decision, there is a topic about it here:
http://www.capcom-unity.com/ask_cap..._You_Localizing_Ace_Attorney_Investigations_2
Exactly, especially here on NeoGAF, almost everyone in the official thread was saying how it is a better game than AJ. (even if I don't agree)TEJ said:
So yeah, bull.
If anyone was "hating" on something it was the people who wanted Gyakuten 5 instead of AAI 2.
But after the first trailers, characters introductions etc, at least I changed my mind.
I want to play this game, and it is maybe the game I waited for the most after Ghost Trick and before Zelda SS.
Femmeworth
Banned
Calculated? I think you are giving Capcom way too much credit. I highly doubt they were waiting for some perceived opportune moment. I think it's just more of a case that no one at Capcom even fucking thought about it.ShockingAlberto said:
ShockingAlberto
Member
I didn't say it wasn't incompetent, it was just purposeful.ninj4junpei said:
sixteen-bit
Member
This will be useful for anytime Ono says anything.Ben2749 said:
Femmeworth
Banned
I'm just saying that Capcom is very short-sighted, which isn't an astounding observation I know. They obviously started this generation with a solid plan and it worked very well for them, but somewhere along the way they stopped, or at least paused, planning and have been fumbling ever since.ShockingAlberto said:
If so, nobody would be complaining.TheSeks said:Does AAI2 come with an English option like the GS releases in Japan did for DS? Or do I have to wait for a fan translation?
It doesn't come with an English translation, because they are not doing it.
The only Japanese AA games with an English translation in the same DS cartridge are AA, JFA and T&T.
Not even Apollo had it.
From The Dust
Banned
Electivirus said:
it had some. it was mostly online advertising though. I saw it a lot actually
You can say this about the fan reaction if you want to, but it doesn't change the fact that those fans still ultimately bought the game before coming to that conclusion. And I'm sure a number of those fans would have bought AAI2 even if there was a bunch of stuff in the first one that they didn't like. I know I'd be one of those people.bon said:
I can understand where Capcom might be hesitant on this. AA games have a lot of script to translate and the ongoing nature of the storyline and recurring characters means that it's not the easiest franchise for people to ever just hop in on a new installment before playing the others first. The rate of people leaving the series probably is higher than the rate of new people getting into it at this point.
But on a personal note, that doesn't make this any less of a dickheaded travesty of a decision. Ace Attorney started off as such a wonderful underdog story that Capcom built into one of their major franchises, and now more and more it feels like they've run out of patience with it being "good, but not great" and are phasing it out again. Bitterly disappointing.
From The Dust
Banned
would the number of sales justify the localization though? as you said there is a lot of script to translate. the gains could be so insignificant, the localization just wouldn't be worth it.
dragonlife
Member
Goddammit.
ShockingAlberto
Member
Actual translation is far from the most expensive part of localization. Voice acting and lip synching would be.From The Dust said:
This game has none of those issues.
Dark Octave
Banned
Was there ever an anime made of AA?
Could be amazing.
Could be amazing.
I heard Ghost Trick didn't do so hot in Japan, haven't checked on US numbers.
Still though, I have to wonder why they're so cagey about this one. They released the original Phoenix Wright title in a very limited print run and apparently got more sales than expected. I've seen the numbers on the last AAI title, and I'd really love to put those into context with where they expected the original title to be.
Still though, I have to wonder why they're so cagey about this one. They released the original Phoenix Wright title in a very limited print run and apparently got more sales than expected. I've seen the numbers on the last AAI title, and I'd really love to put those into context with where they expected the original title to be.