Amazon kills The Grand Tour and Clarkson’s farm after Jeremy Clarkson spoke the truth about Meghan Markle

IDKFA

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Because he literally said so, and has a history of not being particularly fond of her in general and not actually apologising for saying he hated her from what I saw and read and it doesn't read like satire.

But I was giving you the benefit of the doubt to prove it was satire that simply went over the line since I don't actually follow him and I may have missed any statements regarding that.

Here he is confirming it was a lazy Games of Thrones reference.


Clearly he's saying it was supposed to be a joke. A form of satire that he's been known for almost his whole career. Do you honestly believe Clarkson thinks Megan is a worse human being than Rose West?! Come on.

Do you think Jo Brand was being serious when she suggested people should throw acid at Nigel Farage? No. Of course not. It was shocking humour.

If you can't see this as satire then satire truly is dead.
 

DeepEnigma

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Here he is confirming it was a lazy Games of Thrones reference.


Clearly he's saying it was supposed to be a joke. A form of satire that he's been known for almost his whole career. Do you honestly believe Clarkson thinks Megan is a worse human being than Rose West?! Come on.

Do you think Jo Brand was being serious when she suggested people should throw acid at Nigel Farage? No. Of course not. It was shocking humour.

If you can't see this as satire then satire truly is dead.
He should have taken the John Cleese route and told everyone to fuck right off. They all come from that same era and brand of comedy.
 

SaintALia

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Here he is confirming it was a lazy Games of Thrones reference.


Clearly he's saying it was supposed to be a joke. A form of satire that he's been known for almost his whole career. Do you honestly believe Clarkson thinks Megan is a worse human being than Rose West?! Come on.

Do you think Jo Brand was being serious when she suggested people should throw acid at Nigel Farage? No. Of course not. It was shocking humour.

If you can't see this as satire then satire truly is dead.
That tweet is apologising for the Game of Thrones reference, NOT the hate.

"Do you honestly believe Clarkson thinks Megan is a worse human being than Rose West?! Come on."
Like I said, he LITERALLY SAID IT. I simply asked you to point out where he does not actually hate Megan and that the post was simply in jest, or indeed satire. Just because you make an offensive joke, doesn't mean you get to claw back 'satire' as a cloak or shield. I do not agree that it is satire, and you have not posted anything so far to relay that he does not hate/dislike Megan. He claimed he hated Megan and then added the Games of Thrones bit, which is likely hyperbole, I do not think he indeed wishes to see a woman stripped naked, paraded around and humiliated like that in actuality. But he never apologised for his dislike/hatred of the person in question, he ONLY apologised for the remark he actually regretted, the sexist Game of Thrones bit. Your tweet only reinforces what I said. But if you can find quotes, tweets, statements, posts on instagram, anything at all to disprove that, you are welcome to post them and I'll revise my opinion. Simply reposting what 'you believe' is immaterial to me. You are welcome to your beliefs and opinions, I'm trying to go off facts.

He should have taken the John Cleese route and told everyone to fuck right off. They all come from that same era and brand of comedy.

It'd actually give more credence to this claim of 'satire' if he did do this. Instead of literally claiming he made the remark in anger and haste and regretted it. He fucked up, as we all do, and said something he regretted and apologised for it, which not all of us will do.

Also,
"Do you think Jo Brand was being serious when she suggested people should throw acid at Nigel Farage?"
Nothing to do with the matter at hand.
 

Jsisto

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My thoughts are with Meghan Markle, the Duchess of Sussex, during this difficult time. What this horrible man said must have been painful and traumatic for her. I only hope that with time and therapy, she can heal and be whole again.

Cancelling a show is not enough. He should be in Guantanamo bay.
 

IDKFA

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That tweet is apologising for the Game of Thrones reference, NOT the hate.

"Do you honestly believe Clarkson thinks Megan is a worse human being than Rose West?! Come on."
Like I said, he LITERALLY SAID IT. I simply asked you to point out where he does not actually hate Megan and that the post was simply in jest, or indeed satire. Just because you make an offensive joke, doesn't mean you get to claw back 'satire' as a cloak or shield. I do not agree that it is satire, and you have not posted anything so far to relay that he does not hate/dislike Megan. He claimed he hated Megan and then added the Games of Thrones bit, which is likely hyperbole, I do not think he indeed wishes to see a woman stripped naked, paraded around and humiliated like that in actuality. But he never apologised for his dislike/hatred of the person in question, he ONLY apologised for the remark he actually regretted, the sexist Game of Thrones bit. Your tweet only reinforces what I said. But if you can find quotes, tweets, statements, posts on instagram, anything at all to disprove that, you are welcome to post them and I'll revise my opinion. Simply reposting what 'you believe' is immaterial to me. You are welcome to your beliefs and opinions, I'm trying to go off facts.



It'd actually give more credence to this claim of 'satire' if he did do this. Instead of literally claiming he made the remark in anger and haste and regretted it. He fucked up, as we all do, and said something he regretted and apologised for it, which not all of us will do.

Also,
"Do you think Jo Brand was being serious when she suggested people should throw acid at Nigel Farage?"
Nothing to do with the matter at hand.

The premise of your argument is that because Clarkson said he hates Megan, then it must be true. All because he literally said it.

Clarkson has also said he hates James May multiple times. Was he joking, or does he really hate May because he literally said it.

Or how about in 2011 when he said this about striking public sector workers:

‘We have to balance this though, because this is the BBC. Frankly, I’d have them all shot. I would take them outside and execute them in front of their families.’

Do you think that Clarkson really wanted to murder public sector workers because he literally said it?
 

DeepEnigma

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Fired from Millionaire too.

And if he said it about a nobody, nobody would care. Ironic, really.
Queen Elizabeth GIF
 

SaintALia

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The premise of your argument is that because Clarkson said he hates Megan, then it must be true. All because he literally said it.

Clarkson has also said he hates James May multiple times. Was he joking, or does he really hate May because he literally said it.

Or how about in 2011 when he said this about striking public sector workers:

‘We have to balance this though, because this is the BBC. Frankly, I’d have them all shot. I would take them outside and execute them in front of their families.’

Do you think that Clarkson really wanted to murder public sector workers because he literally said it?
"The premise of your argument is that because Clarkson said he hates Megan, then it must be true. All because he literally said it."

NO, it is very clearly NOT. I even pointed out specifically that the Games of Thrones bit was hyperbole and that he didn't actually want to see her like that, because THAT'S what he has apologised for multiple times.

EDIT: Yes I believe he does dislike her and wrote that in a fit of anger and haste, because that's what he literally said in his statements and apologies, unless this was again all lies, because he literally said so. But as I said before I'm willing to revise my opinion if:
"He doesn't hate Megan."

Prove this belief of yours.

The rest of your comment regarding entirely different subject matters have absolutely NOTHING to do with the matter of hand.
 
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SaintALia

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And if he said it about a nobody, nobody would care. Ironic, really.
Queen Elizabeth GIF
NOPE. A public figure who is a man saying that about a woman would have a lot of people crawling up his ass. Probably even moreso than Megan because it'd be viewed as punching down even moreso. I think there was a poll about the royals and Megan and Harry were among the most unpopular or the most unpopular. I think they were above Andrew, but that's a pretty low bar to clear.
 

DeepEnigma

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NOPE. A public figure who is a man saying that about a woman would have a lot of people crawling up his ass. Probably even moreso than Megan because it'd be viewed as punching down even moreso. I think there was a poll about the royals and Megan and Harry were among the most unpopular or the most unpopular. I think they were above Andrew, but that's a pretty low bar to clear.
Least popular to the populace common folk, not the establishment media that is pushing their tools on the populace.

If you have not noticed, they've been pushing the least popular things/ideas over the past 6+ years, and are willing to loss lead the push of said trash.
 
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Sybrix

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Is any of this confirmed?

All these sources are from reporters rather than direct from Amazon and ITV.

Any statements from them?
 

SaintALia

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Least popular to the populace common folk, not the establishment media that is pushing their tools on the populace.

If you have not noticed, they've been pushing the least popular things/ideas over the past 6+ years, and are willing to loss lead the push of said trash.
I think Megan and Harry have been pushing themselves. The media does as they always do, dive on it, pick the bones clean and move on to the next thing. That's the 'media's' nature and that's how it's always been, not just the 'establishment media'.
 

SaintALia

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Is any of this confirmed?

All these sources are from reporters rather than direct from Amazon and ITV.

Any statements from them?
Nope, nothing actually confirmed, the title of the article is:
"Amazon LIKELY to Part Ways With Jeremy... "

Amazon hasn't commented or issued a statement yet, but:
'UPDATE: A virtual press conference for Jeremy Clarkson’s Amazon Prime Video series “Clarkson’s Farm” that was set to take place on Tuesday morning has been called off.'

Right now it's just Variety's inside sources, which I think are usually right.
 
All the hate directed at Markle is amazing to me. I seem to remember some older articles bashing her race and how she didn't belong in the royal family because of that and her being an American. She gets so much hate and I just don't understand it. Folks in this thread are mind-readers too saying what she THOUGHT and THINKS... None of us lot know her personally... And when someone mentions race, the go-to is to say "she's making it up" or "perpetual victim"... Meanwhile she gets hate like what Clarkson wrote and it's "he's right" ...?
Facts, totally agree.
 

01011001

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how probable is it that their contract would have run out anyway and they didn't want to renew it anyway given that this will only start taking effect in 2025, after numerous additional Grand Tour Specials (which aren't already filmed at all) and 2 more seasons of Clarkson's farm (which has 1 additional season filmed but not edited and 1 season not even filmed yet)

this seems like they simply want to put out a statement to seem like they're reacting to something but in reality this was the plan for a bunch of time already.

especially since Clarkson is 62 and will be 65 when this happens.

he is also still doing Who wants to be a Millionaire right? and that seems like an easy to do show at his old age.
 

Fox Mulder

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She gets lots of hate from people like Clarkson for obvious reasons. He could have just kept his mouth shut as he’s always on thin ice it seems.

Amazon had already killed off the Grand Tour to just specials. They aren’t getting another big budget car show after this at their age.
 
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DeafTourette

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Facts, totally agree.

You know what? I barely know what's going on with Markle and Harry... Because I don't care about gossip rags. I only know ANYTHING about them when a friend, acquaintance, coworker or relative sends me a link ...

And no one will believe this but...

I move on with my life after reading. I don't obsess or get angry.

I know.... Weird, huh?
 

Reallink

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As per wikipedia:

In March 2015, Clarkson was suspended by the BBC from Top Gear following a "fracas" with one of the show's producers, Oisin Tymon. It emerged that Clarkson had been involved in a dispute over catering while filming on location in Hawes, North Yorkshire. Clarkson had been offered soup and a cold meat platter, instead of the steak he wanted, because the hotel chef had gone home.

The BBC announced that the next episode of the show would not be broadcast on 15 March. It was later announced through the BBC's website that the network would be likely to drop the remaining two episodes of the series as well in the wake of the incident, which involved Clarkson punching producer Oisin Tymon, who was later treated in hospital. Tymon also said that Clarkson had called him a "lazy Irish cunt". Clarkson's contract with the BBC expired at the end of March, and a previously proposed three-year renewal was withdrawn.

So Amazon's cool with literally beating an employee into the Hospital, but draws an instant hard line nope at mean words.
 
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Tams

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That tweet is apologising for the Game of Thrones reference, NOT the hate.

"Do you honestly believe Clarkson thinks Megan is a worse human being than Rose West?! Come on."
Like I said, he LITERALLY SAID IT. I simply asked you to point out where he does not actually hate Megan and that the post was simply in jest, or indeed satire. Just because you make an offensive joke, doesn't mean you get to claw back 'satire' as a cloak or shield. I do not agree that it is satire, and you have not posted anything so far to relay that he does not hate/dislike Megan. He claimed he hated Megan and then added the Games of Thrones bit, which is likely hyperbole, I do not think he indeed wishes to see a woman stripped naked, paraded around and humiliated like that in actuality. But he never apologised for his dislike/hatred of the person in question, he ONLY apologised for the remark he actually regretted, the sexist Game of Thrones bit. Your tweet only reinforces what I said. But if you can find quotes, tweets, statements, posts on instagram, anything at all to disprove that, you are welcome to post them and I'll revise my opinion. Simply reposting what 'you believe' is immaterial to me. You are welcome to your beliefs and opinions, I'm trying to go off facts.



It'd actually give more credence to this claim of 'satire' if he did do this. Instead of literally claiming he made the remark in anger and haste and regretted it. He fucked up, as we all do, and said something he regretted and apologised for it, which not all of us will do.

Also,
"Do you think Jo Brand was being serious when she suggested people should throw acid at Nigel Farage?"
Nothing to do with the matter at hand.

Because as I have already told you, it is not right to try and prescribe who people can hate and to what extent.

Stop trying to justify attempts to tell people who to feel. Your type are the fucking worst*.

*and now let's see you get your knickers in a twist as I've literally just called you worse than Hitler.
 

Kenpachii

Member
That was their decision. They prefer making the specials over the live audience part.

Doubt the show was doing anything half worthy wise tho, it kinda went downhill fast after there switch to amazon. This is a good excuse to get rid of them.
 
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Tams

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Doubt the show was doing anything half worthy wise tho, it kinda went downhill fast after there switch to amazon. This is a good excuse to get rid of them.
Lol, the BBC tried that and it was a load of utter shite.

What makes old Top Gear and The Grand Tour is the chemistry and friendship between the hosts.

Unless someone can find or make a similarly close knit group, who have a decent sense of humour, able to take the piss and and have the piss taken, be bold on camera but not too obnoxious, and love cars (and motorvehicles in general), then it will be a flop. Oh, and get in great with their producer.

Not that it isn't possible. The trio (and producer) were found and put together. That was mostly luck.
 

winjer

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The trio (and producer) were found and put together. That was mostly luck.

It wasn't just luck. Hammond and May were hand picked by Clarkson and Wilman.
Hamond was picked after a couple of jokes he made during an interview, that showed to Clackson that he could do some funny banter.
And Clarkson had to try a few times, before being able to convince May to join the team. That is why in the first season, they had a guy named Jason Dawe.
The first seasons, we can see they are still fumbling their way around, trying to know each other. But each member has his particular style of comedy, that complements the others.
The lucky part could be that around 2007, Clarkson had some health issues. This forced the team to give less screen time to Clarkson and more to may and Hamond, resulting in a more developed team effort.
The other lucky part was Hamond's accident with the jetcar. This made news around the world and gave Top Gear a huge publicity boost.

For the new Top Gear, it's clear they were picked by a committee of non-creative people.
A committee that has a main focus of creating a sanitized version of Top Gear. And that is why it has become so bland and unfunny.
 
Is there any vile person you wont defend first Wacko now Markle? How do you feel about Charles Manson? Maybe he got a bad rap? 🤣
The fact that you think Markle is vile says far more about your character than hers. Meghan Markle who had done extensive charity work all around the world before she even was introduced to Harry. Markle who spearheaded help for the Grenfell tower women after that tragedy. Everyone who has encountered her besides media and the dumb people that believe tabloid rags, says she's an amazing person. Its amazing you have all these people still trying to pile on this woman after she's had a miscarriage from stress and thought about suicide. You call her a golddigger when she's the only self made millionaire in the royal family. Also honoring truth, believing in whats right is not being woke. People have taken that word and decimated it. Its a shame that we have so many people who are eager to embrace garbage. Difficult black woman wants to destroy palace. When in truth Charles instantly loved Meghan and so did the queen. Charles just loved Camilla more, who is the real problem. More like black woman that you've made up a million stories about hounding her mother, calling her monkeys, sluts, whores why?because as one headline stated "she was born on the wrong side of the tracks" That makes her fair game. I hate Resetera, but I hope they are atleast doing alot better with this story than some of you at GAF are.
 

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The fact that you think Markle is vile says far more about your character than hers. Meghan Markle who had done extensive charity work all around the world before she even was introduced to Harry. Markle who spearheaded help for the Grenfell tower women after that tragedy. Everyone who has encountered her besides media and the dumb people that believe tabloid rags, says she's an amazing person. Its amazing you have all these people still trying to pile on this woman after she's had a miscarriage from stress and thought about suicide. You call her a golddigger when she's the only self made millionaire in the royal family. Also honoring truth, believing in whats right is not being woke. People have taken that word and decimated it. Its a shame that we have so many people who are eager to embrace garbage. Difficult black woman wants to destroy palace. When in truth Charles instantly loved Meghan and so did the queen. Charles just loved Camilla more, who is the real problem. More like black woman that you've made up a million stories about hounding her mother, calling her monkeys, sluts, whores why?because as one headline stated "she was born on the wrong side of the tracks" That makes her fair game. I hate Resetera, but I hope they are atleast doing alot better with this story than some of you at GAF are.
I don't even care about the royal family and I wont derail any further after this but she's a narcissist who is estranged from her family and who isolated that idiot she married from his family and loves to play the victim. All textbook narcissist traits. Lastly in America she passes as white shes just plsying the race card. I won't defend narcissists or pedos but you do you.
 
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I don't even care about the royal family and I wont derail any further after this but she's a narcissist who is estranged from her family and who isolated that idiot she married from his family and loves to play the victim. All textbook narcissist traits. Lastly in America she passes as white shes just plsying the race card. I won't defend narcissists or pedos but you do you.

I don't even care about the royal family and I wont derail any further after this but she's a narcissist who is estranged from her family and who isolated that idiot she married from his family and loves to play the victim. All textbook narcissist traits. Lastly in America she passes as white shes just plsying the race card. I won't defend narcissists or pedos but you do you.
She didnt land on plymouth rock, plymouth rock landed on her.

See this is what I'm saying, your whole thing is regurgitated tabloid mash. If you're talking about her father, he did that to himself working with tabloids for money, he even felt too ashamed at what he had done to attend their wedding. Or that sister that Meghan barely even knew who is ate up with jealously, because she truly is white trash. With family like that who needs enemies. I actually did read Harrys book Spare. Why? Because I had heard every tabloid story about him since I was younger and never heard his side. It interesting hearing another side. Far from the explosive tell all I was suprised to find a book that humanizes Prince Charles who he clearly loves, Humanized Thomas Markle, notes differences with Prince William, but once again his love for his brother shines through. contrary to the media Kate is barely mentioned. People have really been lied to.
 

RJMacready73

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The fact that you think Markle is vile says far more about your character than hers. Meghan Markle who had done extensive charity work all around the world before she even was introduced to Harry. Markle who spearheaded help for the Grenfell tower women after that tragedy. Everyone who has encountered her besides media and the dumb people that believe tabloid rags, says she's an amazing person. Its amazing you have all these people still trying to pile on this woman after she's had a miscarriage from stress and thought about suicide. You call her a golddigger when she's the only self made millionaire in the royal family. Also honoring truth, believing in whats right is not being woke. People have taken that word and decimated it. Its a shame that we have so many people who are eager to embrace garbage. Difficult black woman wants to destroy palace. When in truth Charles instantly loved Meghan and so did the queen. Charles just loved Camilla more, who is the real problem. More like black woman that you've made up a million stories about hounding her mother, calling her monkeys, sluts, whores why?because as one headline stated "she was born on the wrong side of the tracks" That makes her fair game. I hate Resetera, but I hope they are atleast doing alot better with this story than some of you at GAF are.
i know nothing about the girl other than she's really not liked, but tell me this, the women you have painted sounds like a pretty sound girl so why was only her mother present at her wedding? with all her millions and obviously amazing personality where the fuck was the rest of her family?
 

Putonahappyface

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I'm genuinely saddened by this news, what he said was vile but he apologized publicly and privately and that should've been enough.

I grew up watching Top Gear and stopped watching once the trio moved to Amazon and created The Grand Tour. Pretty much everything Jeremy Clarkson, James May or Richard Hammond create I enjoy.

I'm glad there will be a few more Grand Tour specials and Clarksons Farm episodes before these shows are killed off. Fingers crossed another broadcaster snatches them up.

I'm fucking tired of this repugnant cancel culture!
 
i know nothing about the girl other than she's really not liked, but tell me this, the women you have painted sounds like a pretty sound girl so why was only her mother present at her wedding? with all her millions and obviously amazing personality where the fuck was the rest of her family?
Her mothers side, I honestly dont have a good answer for that. Her answer is palace guidance. Dont know if it was more security would be needed or what, they already had to have snipers at the wedding. Her fathers side its pretty obvious, all they do is leak/create stories especially her half sister Samantha who has released some of the most cringeworthy easily refutable stories, what is interesting though is Samanthas own daughter has sided with her aunt Meghan over her own mom. Thats a good thing thats come after this. she's gotten to know the niece she didnt. The father was invited, he choose not to attend. It seems he was ashamed because he had allowed himself to be used by the media.
Also I dont know the inner workings of their family. TBH If I got married I'm not sure I would invite my extended family any more. Thats something I use to dream of doing.
 

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She didnt land on plymouth rock, plymouth rock landed on her.

See this is what I'm saying, your whole thing is regurgitated tabloid mash. If you're talking about her father, he did that to himself working with tabloids for money, he even felt too ashamed at what he had done to attend their wedding. Or that sister that Meghan barely even knew who is ate up with jealously, because she truly is white trash. With family like that who needs enemies. I actually did read Harrys book Spare. Why? Because I had heard every tabloid story about him since I was younger and never heard his side. It interesting hearing another side. Far from the explosive tell all I was suprised to find a book that humanizes Prince Charles who he clearly loves, Humanized Thomas Markle, notes differences with Prince William, but once again his love for his brother shines through. contrary to the media Kate is barely mentioned. People have really been lied to.
So EVERYONE else is the problem? Her family, her father, her sister, his family, her ex, her former best friend? Got it.
 

SaintALia

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Because as I have already told you, it is not right to try and prescribe who people can hate and to what extent.

Stop trying to justify attempts to tell people who to feel. Your type are the fucking worst*.

*and now let's see you get your knickers in a twist as I've literally just called you worse than Hitler.
Again, re-read the conversation between me and the poster and what I had said to you. I did not say that Clarkson should not hate Megan, nor did I say that anyone should not hate Megan, nor was I interested in condemning anyone who wants to hate anyone else.

"Stop trying to justify attempts to tell people who to feel. Your type are the fucking worst*."

You have COMPLETELY misread the conversation between me and that poster and completely mis-read my argument.

Read my ENTIRE comments in this thread and try to find a SINGLE instance of me condemning Clarkson of his hatred.

"*and now let's see you get your knickers in a twist as I've literally just called you worse than Hitler."

Sure, whatever you say guy. I even replied to you which completely refutes this claim of rights to prescribe who people can hate" etc with my comment to you:

"I never said he had to retract anything, but the person I responded to claimed it was satire and that he(Clarkson) didn't hate her. So I asked him to provide some quotes or statements that back that up, because maybe I did miss something.

He(Clarkson) is indeed, and anyone for that matter, free to hate anyone they choose, but that's not the actual point of contention in this back and forth between me and the other poster(IDKFA)."

Which you completely ignored, to jump into my comment reply to another poster.

I have no idea why people seem to want to form a defense force around a person they don't personally know, but whatever. I have no horse in this race and no intention of defending either of these people, so if you want to defend or condemn either person, have at it, but at the very least, if you are trying to respond to comments, pay attention to what is being said.
 

AJUMP23

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It wasn't just luck. Hammond and May were hand picked by Clarkson and Wilman.
Hamond was picked after a couple of jokes he made during an interview, that showed to Clackson that he could do some funny banter.
And Clarkson had to try a few times, before being able to convince May to join the team. That is why in the first season, they had a guy named Jason Dawe.
The first seasons, we can see they are still fumbling their way around, trying to know each other. But each member has his particular style of comedy, that complements the others.
The lucky part could be that around 2007, Clarkson had some health issues. This forced the team to give less screen time to Clarkson and more to may and Hamond, resulting in a more developed team effort.
The other lucky part was Hamond's accident with the jetcar. This made news around the world and gave Top Gear a huge publicity boost.

For the new Top Gear, it's clear they were picked by a committee of non-creative people.
A committee that has a main focus of creating a sanitized version of Top Gear. And that is why it has become so bland and unfunny.
Ed China was in season 1 too. He is great.
 

Tams

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Again, re-read the conversation between me and the poster and what I had said to you. I did not say that Clarkson should not hate Megan, nor did I say that anyone should not hate Megan, nor was I interested in condemning anyone who wants to hate anyone else.

"Stop trying to justify attempts to tell people who to feel. Your type are the fucking worst*."

You have COMPLETELY misread the conversation between me and that poster and completely mis-read my argument.

Read my ENTIRE comments in this thread and try to find a SINGLE instance of me condemning Clarkson of his hatred.

"*and now let's see you get your knickers in a twist as I've literally just called you worse than Hitler."

Sure, whatever you say guy. I even replied to you which completely refutes this claim of rights to prescribe who people can hate" etc with my comment to you:

"I never said he had to retract anything, but the person I responded to claimed it was satire and that he(Clarkson) didn't hate her. So I asked him to provide some quotes or statements that back that up, because maybe I did miss something.

He(Clarkson) is indeed, and anyone for that matter, free to hate anyone they choose, but that's not the actual point of contention in this back and forth between me and the other poster(IDKFA)."

Which you completely ignored, to jump into my comment reply to another poster.

I have no idea why people seem to want to form a defense force around a person they don't personally know, but whatever. I have no horse in this race and no intention of defending either of these people, so if you want to defend or condemn either person, have at it, but at the very least, if you are trying to respond to comments, pay attention to what is being said.

You're the one writing mini essays.
 
So EVERYONE else is the problem? Her family, her father, her sister, his family, her ex, her former best friend? Got it
No I'd trade all those in to say the tabloid media is the problem, which is the entire purpose of Harrys book Spare, to put the blame on the same people who helped kill his mom years ago and are doing their best to get his wife.

Though I dont expect to convince the guy that believe Michael Jackson is in ownership of a time machine that allows him to molest people in buildings that have not been created yet. Have a nice day.
 

winjer

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Ed China was in season 1 too. He is great.

Yes, he was. He did the budget James Bond car. Cool stuff, and he could have become a regular on the show, with his gadgets.
But at least his work served for inspiration for those challenges where the team would build some special car.
 

DeafTourette

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So EVERYONE else is the problem? Her family, her father, her sister, his family, her ex, her former best friend? Got it.

That IS possible... I have family I don't talk to because they did me dirty... I have a best friend who doesn't talk to ANY of the family that adopted her because they abused her and the rest took her abusive mother's side. I've seen it first hand.

Don't presume that the family is great and only Meghan is bad... Family can and HAS screwed over really good people... Even the parents!
 

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That IS possible... I have family I don't talk to because they did me dirty... I have a best friend who doesn't talk to ANY of the family that adopted her because they abused her and the rest took her abusive mother's side. I've seen it first hand.

Don't presume that the family is great and only Meghan is bad... Family can and HAS screwed over really good people... Even the parents!
It's possible yet highly unlikely. What about her ex? What about her former best friend? When someone has a problem with everyone it's more likely that they are the problem. I'm sorry but narcissism hits real close to home for me I've lived with one for years. They are controlling, demanding, fake, rude and play the perpetual victim.
 
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DeafTourette

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It's possible yet highly unlikely. What about her ex? What about her former best friend? When someone has a problem with everyone it's more likely that they are the problem. I'm sorry but narcissism hits real close to home for me I've lived with one for years. They are controlling, demanding, fake, rude and play the perpetual victim.

It's not highly unlikely because that friend of mine isn't the only one with that experience. Trauma can cause you to trust the wrong people, be good to the wrong person, etc etc

And an ex of mine is a narcissist so I understand and empathize with you on that because I went through that crap with her ... On top of physical abuse
 

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It's not highly unlikely because that friend of mine isn't the only one with that experience. Trauma can cause you to trust the wrong people, be good to the wrong person, etc etc

And an ex of mine is a narcissist so I understand and empathize with you on that because I went through that crap with her ... On top of physical abuse
Im sorry for what you want through. I could tell you some pretty crazy stories myself but thats neither here nor there. I'm not defending what this guy said or the tabloids. Markle just comes across as a covert narcissist to me.
 
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Stuart360

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I wouldnt be surprised if this all blows over as Amazon havent actually said anything, and still making shows into 2024 sems a little weird if they are pissed about this.
Its more likely that Clarksons contract is up in 2024, and it may or may not be renewed.

Make no mistake though, the trio may be in their 50's and 60's but someone will snap them up instantly. Their shows are just too popular.

And honestly i'm sick to death of this cancel culture bullshit. No one has a sense of humour anymore. What happened to stuff like this being laughed off, or heaven forbid the person getting roasted does a bit of roasting back?.
What he said was stupid, but so what?, what happened to poeple being stupid and people just ignoring it or laughing it off?.
 
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