Witchfinder General said:I love Frazetta, but they should instead be trying to ape Michael Whelan's take:
That's so close to how I imagined it!
Witchfinder General said:I love Frazetta, but they should instead be trying to ape Michael Whelan's take:
Good effort. Ultimately a failure though.El'Kharn said:I love how movies get shitcanned here based on trailers. keep up the good work.
Dead said:The one visual cue that Stanton is following is the He-Man like design on JC
Kind of unfortunate as Taylor Kitsch kind of looks laughable as shit in the trailer.
Scullibundo said:Film will need to earn $700m to justify a sequel.
Also, wasn't the budget reportedly higher than $250m and more around $300m+ the last time we checked in?
Sho_Nuff82 said:Holy shit wow. I don't know anyone interested in seeing this.
But Disney's total lack of faith in this film is a bad sign.
Scullibundo said:Film will need to earn $700m to justify a sequel.
Also, wasn't the budget reportedly higher than $250m and more around $300m+ the last time we checked in?
Busty said:Two people have told me that John Carter has already crept past $350m and by the time it's released will be over $400m making it the second most expensive film ever made after Avatar.
Why? Because Disney trusts Andrew Stanton and the Pixar 'brain trust' that much.
Apparently Disney think this has real potential to do Avatar sized business. For the record Disney executives were saying the same thing about Tron Legacy before it was released.
Who knows, it might be amazing.
*cough*
EDIT - By the way I haven't had a chance to read the linked article yet so apolgises if I'm covering 'old ground' with my post.
They also made a late-game change to the title that scrubs away the suggestion of pulp sci-fi.Littleberu said:lack of faith? They gave the movie extensive reshoots and $300 M budget.
Krev said:They also made a late-game change to the title that scrubs away the suggestion of pulp sci-fi.
It's easy for me to believe Avatar's budget was over $300 million. I mean...look at it.Scullibundo said:Avatar's production budget was never confirmed as being over $300m, let alone $400m. There was only ever that retarded New Yorker(?) article that printed 'When all is said and done' (after marketing included), over $500m will have been spent.' Then everybody ran with that.
I'm pretty sure if JCM balloons over $400m, it will be the most expensive ever.
Krev said:They also made a late-game change to the title that scrubs away the suggestion of pulp sci-fi.
Scullibundo said:Avatar's production budget was never confirmed as being over $300m, let alone $400m. There was only ever that retarded New Yorker(?) article that printed 'When all is said and done' (after marketing included), over $500m will have been spent.' Then everybody ran with that.
I'm pretty sure if JCM balloons over $400m, it will be the most expensive ever.
Wrong, multiple sources reported a budget of around $310 million (reduced to a net of ~$280 million by tax credits).Scullibundo said:Avatar's production budget was never confirmed as being over $300m, let alone $400m. There was only ever that retarded New Yorker(?) article that printed 'When all is said and done' (after marketing included), over $500m will have been spent.' Then everybody ran with that.
jett said:disney you so crazy
they're so desperate for a new Pirates-like trilogy. Didn't get it with PoP, didn't get it with Tron, won't get it with this one either I bet.
John Carter Had A Lengthy 18 Day Reshoot To Improve & Correct Story Issues
Movie Will Need To Make At Least $700 Million To Green Light A Sequel
Reshoots should be mandatory, director Andrew Stanton recently told the New Yorker in an extensive profile. He said this while on the set of his first live action movie John Carter during an extensive 18 day reshoot this past April. While the term reshoot is generally shorthand used to denote a troubled production, for Stanton, who comes from the world of Pixar where films are storyboarded in full, critiqued, broken down and retooled numerous times before animation even begins, its a luxury that he feels every production should take advantage of. In the case of Pixar, it may mean a movie takes three or four years to develop, but it also ensures the high quality standard of the studio is maintained. As writer Tad Friend notes, its a bit like the old Hollywood studio system where many hands were involved in putting a movie together, and Stanton agrees.
Thats exactly what Pixar is! And some of the Pixarness were trying to spread at Disney is Its O.K. to not know, to be wrong, to screw up and rely on each other. Art is messy, art is chaosso you need a system, Stanton explains.
Its this passion to get things right that perhaps persuaded Disney to give the thumbs up to the reshoots this spring after Stantons first, nearly three hour rough cut of the movie, shown to the Pixar Braintrust (made up of story gurus and studio execs) in December, left them lodging some serious critiques. Among the issues at the time was a rather drab opening sequence in which the details of the Barsoomian wars on Mars are explained, but perhaps worst of all, especially from the director of Finding Nemo and Wall-E, the movie didnt have his usual, deeply personal touch. However, unlike Pixar where nothing is committed to film until its absolutely ready and has been through the process of working out the kinks multiple times, a feature film is a different animal, with fewer chances to get everything rightacting, special effects, music, action sequenceslive action filmmaking is a process Stanton describes as, synchronized swimming with aircraft carriers.
However, Stanton toiled away and a new opening was created, one that will launch viewers immediately into a battle between Zodangans and Therns, before cutting to earth where we first meet John Carter, played by Taylor Kitsch. If it sounds like a totally out there concept for a major movie, it kind of is. An adaptation of Edgar Rich Burroughs seminal serial sci-fi stories, the story concerns a Civil War soldier who is transported to Mars and embarks on alien adventures. Or rather, thats the simple way to put it. But its a sci-fi saga of sorts, always a risk with mainstream audiences (see Cowboys & Aliens) and Disney dropped the latter part of the original title John Carter Of Mars in order not to scare away women or people not predisposed to movies set in outer space. And theyll need to pack multiplexes for this one as the movie needs to take at least $700 million (or roughly more than double of its nearly $300 million budget) to get a sequel greenlit. However, whatever apprehension the studio might be feeling, an early test screening has been very positive.
Screening this past July in Portland, the film was obviously nowhere near finished, but it was a test for Stanton to view the movie alongside four hundred people (and of course some Disney executives) to see if what he was pulling together was going to work. And it did. I realized, O.K. theyre with me, Stanton explained, pleased that the first joke in the movie landed in a big way. Then they laughed at anything that was meant to be a smile. There was no fidgeting in the air battle with Dejah, the least finished part of the film, and I was thinking, O.K. just get them to the kiss, because Ive always been very confident about the last third. And there was applause at the end!
With the move scoring as excellent or very good with 75% of attendees, Stanton and Disney are likely feeling heartened that they have a winner on their hands. John Carter himself was named as the favorite character by the test crowd, and the Warshoon attack, in which our hero protects Dejah from a savage tribe, was named the favored scene. All of that said, the studio is not waiting to see what that first weekend looks like before flipping the switch on any followups, but the movie seems to be headed in the right direction. Currently running just over two hours, John Carter co-stars Samantha Morton, Dominic West, Polly Walker, Willem Dafoe, Lynn Collins, Bryan Cranston, Ciaran Hinds, James Purefoy, Thomas Haden Church, Mark Strong and Daryl Sabara and will hit theaters on March 9, 2012.
Kevin Jagernauth posted to Directors, Andrew Stanton, Films, John Carter Of Mars at 10:20 am on October 12, 2011 | Permalink | Comments (0)
ENTERTAINMENT WEEKLY: So tell me about these White Apes in your film. They’re from the books, but I recall they’re not quite this ginormous?
ANDREW STANTON: No, they’re sort of an oversized gorilla in the books, and they’re kind of ubiquitous. They’re littered everywhere through at least the first several novels. They were always cool, just from a visceral standpoint, [but] they don’t really have a narrative function in the first book. So what we did is we made the White Apes a formidable creature that you kind of hear about throughout the movie, but you never really witness. There’s a subtle sense of anticipation for what these things might be like. Then Michael Kutsche — who did a lot of the designs on [the Johnny Depp movie] Alice in Wonderland – came up with this design on his own, for just their scale. He made them nocturnal, almost like moles — they stopped using their eyes, and just had a heightened sense of smell. We just love that. We needed a scene where Carter was going have to get out of his execution sentence in order to move the story forward, and we thought what better than having to go up against this formidable creature?
Awesome. Are there more pictures from whatever this event was? It's kind of bizarre to see a Sci-fi news exclusive from a celebrity site like Just Jared.Regardless of the Budget, Taylor Kitsch still looks utterly ridiculous as an emaciated He-Man
Also, surprised this was never posted
Why do most recent movies with aliens feel the need to add extra limbs for the fuck of it? I mean, it was odd enough in Avatar, but now it's catching on. This doesn't look good regardless, but will give a chance.
[edit] oh and like avatar, somehow the ape has less fingers, but more limbs? Oh and the shot reminds me of GoW.
Dog thing is Woola.
THE MATTERHORN
Indeed:
lolwut
Everything about this movie feels like they're trying way too hard considering how awesomely kitschy the source material is by modern standards, but then I see the screenshots and I cant help but get excited.
They can always just make more Pirates movies. Or start plumbing their other theme park rides for ideas.
Space Mountain (shortened to "Space")
Splash Mountain (shortened to "Splash")
It's A Small World (Oh dear dear god no!)
Alice in Wonderland 2: Mad Tea Party
THE MATTERHORN
The original story was penned in 1912. Get out of here with your "recent movie" bullshit.
http://i.imgur.com/UyhcY.jpg[IMG]
The original story was penned in [B]1912[/B]. Get out of here with your "recent movie" bullshit.[/QUOTE]
Did the original story include all the aliens having an extra set of limbs yet one down a finger? If so, I'll eat crow, it's just a jarring similarity to me.
Did the original story include all the aliens having an extra set of limbs yet one down a finger? If so, I'll eat crow, it's just a jarring similarity to me.
What does this mean i don't even.The aliens were described in exquisite, pulpy detail.