The Faceless Master
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try using a quality 3rd party USB cable. Samsung USB cables suck.
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try using a quality 3rd party USB cable. Samsung USB cables suck.
The source link just says Mac, Windows and Linux...
My GS2 has screen issues (and the one it replaced was even worse), but the screen's black levels are so good that for my next phone I don't think I'll be able to switch to anything that doesn't have an OLED.
I agree wish you about reviews, though, I've never seen them mention any of this stuff. But that could be because the units they get sent are carefully vetted.
OriginalThinking
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Dude you are the 1%. I've had 4 amoled/samoled screens. The vast majority of people who have bought amoled products love them. Not mature enough for the market???? If you are a screen perfectionist you will find faults in all screens. Light bleed, brightness, contrast, ability to show natural colours. There is no such thing as the perfect display. 99% of the public don't obsess over this stuff
Those of us who spend too much time on internet forums do. Worse still it breeds. People who were happy with their screens start to doubt. Then it by becomes like a reverse placebo. Finally you can no longer enjoy a product because you are always looking for the slightest imperfection. My friendly advice?
Relax...
I'd like to start by saying that I fully understand and can see the imperfections of my Galaxy Nexus' screen; I got a lot of shit in this thread for saying negative things about it actually.
However, unless LCDs are as good or better than the one Apple uses for its retina devices, I will never go back. Even then it would almost be a deal breaker. LCDs are too damn washed out and light bleeding is too common. My colors might not be 100% accurate on my GN but I really don't care. The weird texture effect on some solid colors is, well, weird. Despite these things I cannot get over the incredible blacks and popping colors. I can't wait for my next phone to be an RGB 720P SAMOLED.
The stuff he mentioned affects phones straight out of the box, they're not problems that develop over time.
WeaponKnight
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So, I just got my new Galaxy S2 and am playing a bit with it. Some friends recommended installing MIUI on it to make it more customizable and allow 3rd party apps.
What's the consensus about it? Considering that I'm tech savvy but completely new to Android and it seems that S2 is getting 4.0 later this month, should I mess around?
What's the consensus about it? Considering that I'm tech savvy but completely new to Android and it seems that S2 is getting 4.0 later this month, should I mess around?
Good Job Bob
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You've never had any burn-in?
Have to agree with everyone saying that despite the drawbacks it would be hard to go back to LCD. I have discolouration at the top of my display which luckily isn't noticeable 90% of the time but the vivid colours and black blacks make up for it. Still the screen on my SGS2 is 100x better than the AMOLED screen that was in my HTC Desire so it's obvious the technology can still improve.
BootlegSnackz
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He appears to have burned a hole in his wallet...
Good Job Bob
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Yeah, it's a big problem from my experience.
I wouldn't really call it burn in. It's image retention. It goes away over time.
Randy Lanzarote
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Samoled has some issues, can't say I've noticed burn in on my SGS, crosshatching and a yellowish tint are there, but given the brightness, vibrancy, viewing angles and black levels it offers I do have concerns over going back to LCD.
I was all set to go for an Xperia S when it launches, then I see this comparison between it and a Galaxy Nexus and Note and..... What's a guy to do? Http://www.xperiablog.net/2012/01/3...ia-s-versus-the-galaxy-nexus-and-galaxy-note/
I was all set to go for an Xperia S when it launches, then I see this comparison between it and a Galaxy Nexus and Note and..... What's a guy to do? Http://www.xperiablog.net/2012/01/3...ia-s-versus-the-galaxy-nexus-and-galaxy-note/
Chinpoko_Master
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My first Galaxy SII had a discolored spot on the screen, so I sent it in while it was still under warranty and got a replacement.
It's perfectly fine now. Best screen on pretty much anything I've ever used.
It's perfectly fine now. Best screen on pretty much anything I've ever used.
its not burn in, its image retention. Lets clarify that up front. AMOLED screens have it, but it depends on how its used and what screens you jump back and forth to if you notice it. I rarely notice it but it does happen. Amoled does have its issues and if you look around its pretty easy to find a lot of people talking about them. The fact is, even with its issues, its close to the best screen you can get. Hell, i have only owned pentile displays. If I can merge the iphone display with amoled, i'd be in heaven.
And samsung needs to get some bigger models to offset the size of that damn phone
And samsung needs to get some bigger models to offset the size of that damn phone
Circle T
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Only time I've ever noticed it was in the clock area on my Captivate, and even then I had to really look for it. Like, on a pure white screen, you could faintly make out where the time was shown. Pretty rare to see, and if you didn't know it was there, you'd never see it. None of the other devices ever had the "problem" appear. These other devices were also of newer generations of SAMOLED screens as well. Take that for what you will.
The two GSII's were/are work phones, and cost nothing to me. Nexus replaced my Charge, and Note replaced my Captivate. Both Charge and Captivate were sold to offset costs. Given my work situation, my monthly bills are pretty minor as well. So, all in all, nothing much.
I'm not by any means a screen perfectionist since i don't even have any knowledge on the topic i'm only against evident problems, i didn't have to look up on internet about the problems of the screen, i found it myself one day pulling down the notification screen and using as lockscreen an image with dark stripes which caused the image retention then i checked my friend's phone and i saw that all the (s)amoled have these problem.
I only wanted to warn more people possible since the reviews and people never mention these problems because they're captured by the good sides of the screen.
I've done that post because too many times i've seen people who were not happy with the (s)amoled and the others went against these person because "AMOLED RULEZ, LOOK AT THE COLORS STOP THIS BULLSHIT" (this is not directed to you) and this create ignorance... you can get over these problems? good but at least i informed you about the problems so you can make the decision of buying a phone with all the information possible.
For me a technology that have visible and evident problems like these in that high quantity (100% of the time in my case, never seen an (S)AMOLED without problems) isn't ready for mass market just like weren't ready old plasmas tv years ago.
So....
http://www.onskreen.com/cornerstone/
and... from Cyanogen:
http://www.onskreen.com/cornerstone/
and... from Cyanogen:
Running this on my 10.1 right now. Definitely needs a bit of a tune-up, but lots of potential and I look forward to having it in CM9
Battersea Power Station
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boner am total
OriginalThinking
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Yes but you assume you are the norm. You aren't. I know this because my job is to sell mobile phones for a living. In fact technically I manage a team that does this. I have never had a single person come back to me with an amoled or super amoled screen in the last 4 years to complain of screen quality. Whilst I'm not suggesting that samoled is perfect neither is lcd. If it was as much of an issue for other people as you seem to think it is (and you are entitled to warn people, but frankly I think you are over egging the pudding) then I would have expected to see customers coming back in to complain of image retention, burn in etc etc. The fact is they don't. Not because it never happens but because the issue is temporary and not enough to spoil the enjoyment of the device enough for them to complain. I've also never had a person come back to complain that they don't want to ever buy a device with an amoled screen again, because of their experience. Clearly for you it is an issue, but that is why you are the 1%.
I apologise If I leapt to the conclusion you were influenced by the internet, but the internet is full of people who bang on about (for example) pentile like it's the end of the world. My Nexus S was pentile and so was the Galaxy S. Uber geeks worry about this stuff not the vast majority of people. If people were to have any beef with amoled screens (pre samoled) It would be outdoor visibility under bright light. I could barely see my Nexus One screen on a sunny day. That I had occasional complaints about on the HTC Desire. But the truth is that the great majority really like the punch and contrast of amoled products which frankly blows LCD out of the water. As the technology advances things will get even better, however the product is more than mature enough for the market and frankly samoled is one of the things that actually draws people to buy Samsung smart phones.
Follow up on G+ from Diane Hackborn (lady from android team) directed to Cyanogen:
Ruh Roh, that fork talk.
Link for those interested.
I'm excited. Finally I can have my MSN client and web browser running on the same page. It's the main thing that has annoyed me about using tablets in general and now there's a solution.
EDIT: And if Google has a problem with it not being standard how about they start working on a similar feature themselves. It will dramatically increase productivity on tablet devices without a doubt.
Zombie James
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Ehh... not a fan.
Pretty interesting since the Android team rarely, ever, talks about other builds from AOSP.
You know, I was thinking about exactly this just the other day.
Back before the Xoom and HC, I thought Android going to tablets would bring about true multitasking a la windows. The biggest limiting factor of android as it exists on large screens, is its inability to intelligently use the extra real estate. It was because of that, that I realized my Xoom was in practice, no more functional than an iPad (ok, maybe a tad bit so). Following that, I began to contemplate selling it and moving to the iPad 3, where at least I'd gain a tangible benefit for what I use the tablet for (reading).
If this works as it should, then holy shit what a break through. It'll completely change the game for me, and realize my initial hopes for the platform and big screen devices!
But of course i am not directing what i am saying to people who buy a smartphone just because "whatevs i want a smartphone 'cause everyone have it and it's cool", people who can buy the worst thing on earth just because he wants it but to people that want to know what are they buying which aren't necessarily geek or nerd but people who just want to do a good deal... otherwise i wouldn't post it on GAF which i assume is full of people like this.
Anyway my rant is over
i didn't want to convince no one just wanted to give an advice that i would liked to have before buying the phone
Battersea Power Station
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I don't retract my statement, but I might alter it to a "semi."
Thinking about my Google Nexus use, I really like the multitasking button and I use it more often than I think I do, because it's so seamless. As long as a tablet doesn't have any slowdown and switching between apps is instant, I don't really care if I have it my messaging app on the same screen or if I have to go through the multitasking menu (2 quick screen presses).
The separate panels do get me thinking about serious video editing software, though, and if it will ever be comfortable on a (more powerful) tablet.
ghostofsparta
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I love looking at any.do in black with the eye popping blue accents and insanely deep blacks. It's gorgeous.
I really dislike ICS on my Vibrant. I have tried out the last few Passion roms and none of them run worth a damn for me. Tons of hitching, the browser is insanely slow (chrome or stock), the lock screen takes forever to work sometimes, really just a pain to use. But CM7 is awesome.
She is right. Google should fork Cornerstone and develop their own implementation as part of the API.
Tablets desperately need a more effective way of taking advantage of the larger screen sizes.
Is it really that bad? I was considering getting an S2 to replace my N1
Just had a close look at my Australian GS2 screen. I'm not seeing any of these issues being brought up. Even the retention, I think I noticed that once on my GS1 maybe. And my eyes are fine I noticed a dead pixel in my mother's Poineer plasma the other day while sitting 3-4 meters away. Could it maybe be a regional issue?
BrLvgThrChmstry
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Buying an HD2 tomorrow. I plan on 'upgrading' it to ICS and was wondering if anyone here has any experience with installing ICS on the HD2? any preferred version, suggestions, tips, etc. are all (VERY) welcome.
ghostofsparta
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I have a t989 gs2 and the only problem I've seen is the screen seem to have some vertical lines that are visible on low brightness. I'm not one of those people who keep there screen at low brightness just to save power so I honestly never notice the lines (and didn't until I read a thread on xna about). The blacks and colors are so damn nice though, truly amazing.
So my mum got a new phone and for some random reason, in a house with apple everywhere, she decided she wanted an android phone.
It's a new model samsung galaxy xcover (hard to find actual bloody info on it), It's running 2.3.6 and seems like there's no update to .7 for it, No biggie.
I can't for the life of me figure out how to enable the phone to continue to beep, say every 2 minutes, when there's a missed call or message. Is there any damn way to do this?
There also seems to be no clean bootrom for it either which is a shame. I would love to remove all the crap that comes with it to speed it up a little bit.
It's a new model samsung galaxy xcover (hard to find actual bloody info on it), It's running 2.3.6 and seems like there's no update to .7 for it, No biggie.
I can't for the life of me figure out how to enable the phone to continue to beep, say every 2 minutes, when there's a missed call or message. Is there any damn way to do this?
There also seems to be no clean bootrom for it either which is a shame. I would love to remove all the crap that comes with it to speed it up a little bit.
OriginalThinking
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So I'm in the Currys in Edinburgh trying out an Asus Transformer Prime. So, so good, so smooth, so fast. Makes my Xoom look slow by comparison. And the keyboard dock is amazing. But they are out of stock. Gutting. This thing is so bought.
There is meant to be a refresh of the transformer prime with higher res and no aluminium back (So the gps and crap work properly)
Heres a thread about xcover anyway, not much info though >.< http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=22105492#post22105492
Heres a thread about xcover anyway, not much info though >.< http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=22105492#post22105492
Combichristoffersen
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Edit: Nvm, posted in the correct thread
The Faceless Master
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or... you can have that stuff but no Android Market.
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