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[Aquamarine]

We just have to wait for it to leak now.

 

[Yoshiya]

ok well i might be out of an affordable iphone but i am ready for that ipad mini GM. gimme.

 

[Axion22]

Hands on fingerprint: http://www.loopinsight.com/2013/09/10/hands-on-with-the-iphone-5c-and-iphone-5s/

Unlocking the iPhone 5S was very slick—just rest your finger on the Home button and the phone unlocks immediately. You don’t have to press or move your finger around waiting for it to be recognized—it just worked.

 

[Mindwipe]

GM is up.

 

[Xrenity]

Will it be available OTA?

 

[Deleted member 22576]

Lets get that ipad mini a1455 in here stat.

 

[FamousLastX]

Will it be available OTA?

Not OTA from the beta.

 

[Flo_Evans]

Will it be available OTA?

Nothing OTA yet, installing download.

 

[numble]

iPhone 4 lives on in China at 2588 RMB. 4S is 3288. 5C is 4488. 5S is 5288.

http://store.apple.com/cn/buy-iphone/iphone4

 

[Xrenity]

Not OTA from the beta.

Ah ok, thanks.

Will download it tomorrow then!

 

[Gustav]

We just have to wait for it to leak now.

Will it not update automatically? If no, do I also need to manually update to the "retail" version of iOS 7 once it hits?

 

[Deleted member 22576]

So I just took my mini out of it's wool case that I made and there are like, stains on the back. And rubbing alcohol wont take them off, lol. I'm so gross, I stained aluminum.

 

[FamousLastX]

Will it not update automatically? If no, do I also need to manually update to the "retail" version of iOS 7 once it hits?

No OTA update. And no need to manually update to public release as they should be the exact same build unless there's a critical bug.

 

[Majine]

You need the iTunes beta to restore it to the GM.

 

[MicH]

Seriously want one, but my 4S is still perfectly useable so I canøt justify it just yet (I've had 3GS and 4S so this kinda breaks my tradition). Damn it Gotta wait for iPhone 6

 

[Hcoregamer00]

Same here. I love mine, its a little trooper.

Yup, it's good to know that when it does get replaced, it will be with a technology that is a magnitude of power over the 1 Ghz CPU and its power VR GPU.

 

[Xrenity]

Will it not update automatically? If no, do I also need to manually update to the "retail" version of iOS 7 once it hits?

As I understand, GM is the 'retail'-verdion, so no.

 

[SegaShack]

The prices for this budget model just aren't competitive at all. Why is this new superior version with a better processor just 100 dollars more, it's not that big of a gap. The 5C should have been an actual budget revision aside from just a cheaper case. If they made something new looking that had features removed from the current model but was cheap, that would have been the key. It would have sold me on getting a smartphone, no way am I paying 100 bucks on top of a huge contract for the 5C. Still waiting for data plans to be cheaper, but know it won't happen. I realized if I had a data plan this year I wouldn't have all this extra spending money reserved for an XB1.

Yet now a fingerprint sensor comes along that is basically unheard of in the consumer space.. 3D with contours. works on any angle. Encrypted and stored on the CPU itself. Used within the OS/API to provide password-free operation of many apps used almost daily..

and it's a gimmick? yet drawing out a pattern on a screen is next-gen the way most android users sell it?

Your fingerprint is being stored on the processor? Did they actually say that? If so that doesn't make any sense. Processor can't store anything, basically just moves things around.

edit: Apparently yes it is, magic.

Laughing all the way to the bank.

I think their stock being 700 dollars September last year to being slightly less than 500 now means otherwise.

 

[SeanR1221]

Space Gray 32GB 5S with case will be mine!

Will these fit regular iPhone 5s?

 

[Face it Tiger..]

Waiting for that 4S GM...

 

[Gustav]

No OTA update. And no need to manually update to public release as they should be the exact same build unless there's a critical bug.

I had the problem last year that my beta firmware install just deactivated. Will the same happen to the GM or will it seamlessly integrate with future iOS releases?

 

[MThanded]

You need the iTunes beta to restore it to the GM.

well thats a problem for me then.

 

[FamousLastX]

I had the problem last year that my beta firmware install just deactivated. Will the same happen to the GM or will it seamlessly integrate with future iOS releases?

Only the betas deactivate after a certain amount of time. GM will seamlessly integrate with future releases. For example when 7.0.1 hits you will be able to just update OTA directly to that.

 

[CrunchinJelly]

Will these fit regular iPhone 5s?

Of course. Dunno why they even call is a 5S case.

 

[numble]

The prices for this budget model just aren't competitive at all. Why is this new superior version with a better processor just 100 dollars more, it's not that big of a gap. The 5C should have been an actual budget revision aside from just a cheaper case. If they made something new looking that had features removed from the current model but was cheap, that would have been the key.

The stock went down because of lower margins on higher revenue. It is very clear that Apple investors don't like lowered margins.

 

[Deleted member 22576]

You need the iTunes beta to restore it to the GM.

Well where do we get that then?

 

[Gustav]

Only the betas deactivate after a certain amount of time. GM will seamlessly integrate with future releases. For example when 7.0.1 hits you will be able to just update OTA directly to that.

Thanks a bunch. Will update to the GM then.

GM will seamlessly integrate. all OTA updates will work. I’ve done this before and it’s fine.

Thanks to you as well!

 

[LCfiner]

I had the problem last year that my beta firmware install just deactivated. Will the same happen to the GM or will it seamlessly integrate with future iOS releases?

GM will seamlessly integrate. all OTA updates will work. I’ve done this before and it’s fine.

 

[Talon]

The stock went down because of lower margins on higher revenue. It is very clear that Apple investors don't like lowered margins.

Which is why it's hilarious that these analyst keep on crying about Apple not creating a low margin phone.

...

 

[Soulscribe]

And for confirmation you don't need you udid registered to run the GMs. I thought this was true before. I'm hoping this has not changed.

Wait, with GMs you don't need to have a developer account?

 

[borghe]

Your fingerprint is being stored on the processor? Did they actually say that? If so that doesn't make any sense. Processor can't store anything, basically just moves things around.

http://allthingsd.com/20130910/apple-debuts-iphone-5s-with-new-64-bit-a7-chip/

All fingerprint information is encrypted and stored securely inside the A7 chip on the iPhone 5s. In other words, it’s not stored at Apple or backed up to iCloud.

Wait, with GMs you don't need to have a developer account?

to legitimately download it and the necessary version of iTunes needed to install it from apple you need a PAID developer account.

but to install both/either of them, no you don't need a developer account. You just have to find them being hosted somewhere first.

 

[Deleted member 22576]

I'm trying to nurse this beer all the way until its uploaded.

 

[Flo_Evans]

You don't need 11.1 to instal GM iOS7. But you need it to see iphone after it instals in itunes.

 

[Deleted member 22576]

You don't need 11.1 to instal GM iOS7. But you need it to see iphone after it instals in itunes.

Oh well who cares about that then.

 

[Matt_093]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lfIDSx2OHgQ

TouchID in action.

 

[SeanR1221]

Of course. Dunno why they even call is a 5S case.

Cool my Belkin case has faded. I'll grab one of these.

 

[Phreaker]

Wait, with GMs you don't need to have a developer account?

Never have before, so I hope not this time.

 

[FamousLastX]

Wait, with GMs you don't need to have a developer account?

To download it from Apple you do, but there is no actual check in the GMs. Therefore once it's leaked you'll be free to install it.

Also, no iTunes beta for Windows, so it should install fine for those with the latest version 11.0.5.5. Mac users will need the beta version of iTunes though as far as I know.

 

[Mindwipe]

Oh well who cares about that then.

Someone who wants to be able to replace their app data, such as their saved games?

 

[MThanded]

You don't need 11.1 to instal GM iOS7. But you need it to see iphone after it instals in itunes.

well hmmmm

 

[numble]

Keynote is up:
http://www.apple.com/

 

[Deleted member 22576]

Someone who wants to be able to replace their app data, such as their saved games?

Meh. I have no app data on my ipad. Except my hexagon score.


my Iphone4s isnt even the latest build of ios6.

 

[SegaShack]

http://allthingsd.com/20130910/apple-debuts-iphone-5s-with-new-64-bit-a7-chip/





to legitimately download it and the necessary version of iTunes needed to install it from apple you need a PAID developer account.

but to install both/either of them, no you don't need a developer account. You just have to find them being hosted somewhere first.

Wow, that's pretty damn impressive, had no idea.

The stock went down because of lower margins on higher revenue. It is very clear that Apple investors don't like lowered margins.

Has that been happening in the past year? Interesting, so Apple has been selling their stuff at less of a profit than before. They are still overpriced in my opinion but that's good to hear. I mean, 500 dollar stock is really insane to begin with, but so is dropping 200 a share so fast. Inside I know that the 5c will sell like hotcakes.

 

[Jea Song]

To download it from Apple you do, but there is no actual check in the GMs. Therefore once it's leaked you'll be free to install it.

Also, no iTunes beta for Windows, so it should install fine for those with the latest version 11.0.5.5. Mac users will need the beta version of iTunes though as far as I know.

so basically someone will leak the gold masters and then we should be free to install?

 

[MThanded]

so basically someone will leak the gold masters and then we should be free to install?

Yes someone will rehost the GM and you can install it. According to some in here the old version of itunes cant see the phone. That sounds really odd to me.

 

[NinjaFridge]

Weren't people expecting a new iPad mini from this, or is that another conference?

 

[FamousLastX]

Weren't people expecting a new iPad mini from this, or is that another conference?

Next month most likely.

 

[IcyBlueStrawberry]

Keynote is up:
http://www.apple.com/

Aside from scrolling in on my browser, is there any way to watch the video in fullscreen?

 

[borghe]

Wow, that's pretty damn impressive, had no idea.

actually the even more impressive take away from this (which I don't think has been covered) is that it's not even on the filesystem... so even if you were to use iExplorer or such you STILL wouldn't have access to that data.

THAT is slick IMHO.

 

[NinjaFridge]

Next month most likely.

Cheers.

Like the sound of the fingerprint scanner. Surprised more phones haven't included it before.