Tidus_Great
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They fit well with the style and graphics. Are they realistic, no. But then again the name of the game is final fantasy. Hence why male models and female models are able to save the world 
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Are you happy with the "visual identity" adopted by modern Final Fantasy?
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entremet
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I'm not just into the Nomura's FF character designs.
Although I loved his stuff in TWEWY.
Yoshida has been amazing for ages, though.
"As the series' last game on the PlayStation, Sakaguchi envisioned a "reflection" on the older titles of the series. Leading up to its release, Sakaguchi called Final Fantasy IX his favorite Final Fantasy game as "it's closest to [his] ideal view of what Final Fantasy should be"
We need another main FF that is also a "reflection on the older titles of the series".
A pause in trying to come up with the next Cloud would be most welcome.
We need another main FF that is also a "reflection on the older titles of the series".
A pause in trying to come up with the next Cloud would be most welcome.
I remember reading an interview with Nomura years ago where he said he draws a lot of his ideas for his designs from Japanese fashion, and it shows. Most of his characters look they'd rather go to a hair stylist than save the world. Don't get me wrong though, I think Nomura is a good artist and I actually like some of his more conservative designs, but in general I think it's just a bit too much for me.
PixyJunket
Member
What's with the girl from Final Fantasy X who is always shown picking her nose?
PshycoNinja
Member
I am sorry but when I play FINAL FANTASY, I don't sit there and say "well that's not a realistic hairstyle" or "oh this guy is too perfect looking".
It's a fantasy game. It's supposed to provide escapism from what we call "real life". So no I don't see a problem with the designs. They're stylish. Are we going to complain about how Dante looked in the original DMC1 and 3? How about we complain about how almost every character in Persona is symetrical and perfect. It's a unique Japanese style just like how bald marines/space marines with lots of tattoos and scars to show they're battle hardened is a western style of art.
I don't see it as a problem. It's just a bunch of people who don't like that style asking Japan to be... well less like themselves.
It's a fantasy game. It's supposed to provide escapism from what we call "real life". So no I don't see a problem with the designs. They're stylish. Are we going to complain about how Dante looked in the original DMC1 and 3? How about we complain about how almost every character in Persona is symetrical and perfect. It's a unique Japanese style just like how bald marines/space marines with lots of tattoos and scars to show they're battle hardened is a western style of art.
I don't see it as a problem. It's just a bunch of people who don't like that style asking Japan to be... well less like themselves.
DangerMouse
Member
Agreed PsychoNinja.
This. I love the designs that Nomura has been doing as well as the cool looking worlds they've designed, it's in other areas they need to get back to greatness.
Also FFXV's style looks fantastic.
This. I love the designs that Nomura has been doing as well as the cool looking worlds they've designed, it's in other areas they need to get back to greatness.
Also FFXV's style looks fantastic.
CrackPebbles
Member
Agreed, personally I don't have a problem with Nomura's "cliche" designs although I might be biased.
uh, okay.
First time I hear someone say that
edit: What does the battle system of IX have to do with my complaint that they keep revisiting similar styles over and over though?
My favorite style is that of FFIX. The characters still had a lot going on in terms of ... flair, but they also had a lot of character.
http://www.gamerankings.com/ps3/928790-final-fantasy-xiii/index.html
Yes, truly FFIX is the mediocre one here.
http://www.gamerankings.com/ps/197338-final-fantasy-ix/index.html
http://www.gamerankings.com/ps3/928790-final-fantasy-xiii/index.html
Yes, truly FFIX is the mediocre one here.
If you want something more akin to the older titles, play Bravely Default
You gotta look good when saving the world.
Incitemaybe
Member
Yup, looks highly generic to me.
IHaveCandy
Banned
I liked FFX because I thought it had a large caste of diverse characters.
Kotetsu534
Member
I'm not sure what definiton of "modern" is being used here... but FFX was released over a decade ago. I would've been 10 when it released. I don't think of video games which released when I was 10 as "modern", especially since the form has a short history. It's interesting to think that I had to go back just to play FFVI and FFVII, and to this day am one of few in my peer group to have done so - they're treated as positively ancient by almost everyone I know (even older people who are familiar with them). Online it's like they released yesterday.
I think there is a point to be made about how online games discussion views the medium's past. There's a kind of presumed familiarity with it, but not in the sense that a group of film buffs might have an encylopedic knowledge of a particular director, country or genre - rather as if everything surrounding titles can be ignored (time, people, market, circumstance etc.) and they can be brought up as comparators in any scenario. It interests me.
I think there is a point to be made about how online games discussion views the medium's past. There's a kind of presumed familiarity with it, but not in the sense that a group of film buffs might have an encylopedic knowledge of a particular director, country or genre - rather as if everything surrounding titles can be ignored (time, people, market, circumstance etc.) and they can be brought up as comparators in any scenario. It interests me.
Muppet of a Man
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I like the designs from 7 and back; everything 8 and forward has been too emo for my liking.
lol they're main characters, you don't cherry pick what is put in your lap. The fact you think you're calling him out for being selective is absurd, next you'll say someone is being selective for picking Link out as an example for artwork in Legend of Zelda, please do go on.
Yes FF main characters are effeminate. No I don't really care.
That said, new renders for the most effeminate characters in FF XV, Noctis and Prompto, don't make them seem that effeminate.
Yeah they still have long hair but their faces don't like feminine anymore.
And as stated there's a lot of variety in the designs and not all characters are effeminate. Cor and the other guy (Noctis' uncle?) look pretty boss:
That said, new renders for the most effeminate characters in FF XV, Noctis and Prompto, don't make them seem that effeminate.
Yeah they still have long hair but their faces don't like feminine anymore.
And as stated there's a lot of variety in the designs and not all characters are effeminate. Cor and the other guy (Noctis' uncle?) look pretty boss:
RurouniZel
Asks questions so Ezalc doesn't have to
I have lots of problems with modern Final Fantasies, and only one of them is visual.
Costumes! Costumes everywhere!
I don't need other people's opinion to justify my own, IX is just not that good.
I don't really think the visual identity is a problem for Final Fantasy really.
I absolutely hated the design of Vaan from FFXII but that didn't prevent the game from being by far my favorite of the modern Final Fantasy games.
And the problem with FFXIV was definitely not the graphics or visual design.......
I absolutely hated the design of Vaan from FFXII but that didn't prevent the game from being by far my favorite of the modern Final Fantasy games.
And the problem with FFXIV was definitely not the graphics or visual design.......
XANDER CAGE
Member
Who cares about effeminate men? I'll take Amano's androgynous designs over Nomura's any day of the week.
IHaveCandy
Banned
How was FFX or FFXII emo?
Prompto's design sure changed a lot since the first trailers. It used to look like a very healthy, happy-go lucky guy. And in that particular new render it looks like an addict who could kill you in your sleep.
1st Course
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Same.
I used to really like this series back then but not anymore. FFIX was the last one I truly enjoyed.
I don't think the main character from the new game looks effeminate at all. His is slender by build with a face to match but lots of people are.
So you are telling me that my conclusion that there is a very distinct visual style surrounding most modern FF games is false?
That revisioned Squall, revisioned Zack, Cloud, Tidus, Vaan, Snow, Noel, Noctis (just to name a few) share no similarities?
Oh I have my eyes dead set on that one!
I completely disagree with this statement.
Damn fine looking game. Hope to see more details of that soon. Funny how the character artist both have the last name Yoshida.
Oh me too. I was close to importing it when I thought it wasn't comming towards the West, but thank God someone knocked some sense into Nintendo and they decided to localize it.
2014 seems a long way though
This needs to be repeated.
It's a fantasy game. I don't expect to play with realistic characters.
MissDeviling
Member
The main guys just sport hairstyles that are really "in" in Asia, especially among Japanese and Korean stars. I personally like it, being into Asian media. I prefer them to buzz cuts and bald people anyway. And Asian people in general have finer faces than people in the West, so it's not surprising to see them model their characters as such. Just different ethnic features and cultural tastes. Embrace them!
That said, if you look past just the main heroes of each title, the rest of the cast offers nice variety, from Barret to Balthier to Vanille... If anything, I quite like the different flavours that FF casts bring.
That said, if you look past just the main heroes of each title, the rest of the cast offers nice variety, from Barret to Balthier to Vanille... If anything, I quite like the different flavours that FF casts bring.
Oh me too. I was close to importing it when I thought it wasn't comming towards the West, but thank God someone knocked some sense into Nintendo and they decided to localize it.
2014 seems a long way though
Getting it this year in PALand. 6th December release
JordanN
Banned
It's all about indifference to me. Like, it wont exactly put me off from playing but it also wont get me to continue playing either. I think the bigger problem is the personality they give the characters.
Lighting has the feel of a robot and all the boys do have that "emo" thing going for them.
Lighting has the feel of a robot and all the boys do have that "emo" thing going for them.
I saw that too and had the same thought. They had the same hair!
NoirVisage
Banned
The final fantasy MMO's designs I continue to covet, main line designs, 9 included are just over designed gobleygook.
Fixed that for you
Fixed that for you