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Attractive/fanservice design in video games

Well Unfortunately as much as I liked Drakengard 3 the game runs like shit and clearly SE give Yoko Taro barely any budget for this game. I think most of games budget spent on creating that CGI cutscene at beginning of the game.

Haha yes, I am looking forward to the day the in game graphics of a Yoko Taro game looks like that CGI cutscene. Now SE should give him the budget he deserves in the next game. :)
 
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Creators should strive to design their characters whatever they like. In addition, when Japanese games are localized, they should be shipped with original vision of the developers, not some watered-down BS like we saw with Tokyo Mirage Sessions.
 
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Can't wait! Just 2 more months!

Creators should strive to design their characters whatever they like. In addition, when Japanese games are localized, they should be shipped with original vision of the developers, not some watered-down BS like we saw with Tokyo Mirage Sessions.

Yep they are always wasting resources on the censorship and I am always forced to import and wasting money. It's a lose lose situation and no one wins.
 
Tired of the demand to have all edges cut off. Media that offends no one is almost always boring. Western AAA character designs are universally dull AF in 2018.
 
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Tired of the demand to have all edges cut off. Media that offends no one is almost always boring. Western AAA character designs are universally dull AF in 2018.

For Western AAA so far this year my favorite(in terms of attractive) would be Chloe from Detroit: Become Human

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Too bad she is not a main character and yes kinda dull too.
 
Possible as I know I've seen the mods where they've brought other characters into the game so it wouldn't surprise me if they reused already made assets.

Still, that ponytail looks fantastic.

Oh yeah it looks great, I've got no problem with people grabbing assets that way, its purely modding after all. I bet there are a ton of great mods out now that the game has been in the wild for a bit.
 
Funny I stumbled on this thread as I am playing the Senran Kagura series for the first time. (Shinobi Versus on Steam because I don't have a 3DS)

While I wouldn't call the proportions of the characters "attractive" it's all pretty silly and the combat is simple yet entertaining, once you get into the game all that clothes breaking (which affects gameplay) and ridiculous water balloon breasts fades away.

Surprisingly some of the story arcs are very well done, although there are others that... the less I say about the better, can't say there isn't something for everyone at least.

I downloaded the Japanese demo of the remake of the first game and wow is the combat improved, it really feels crunchy and satisfying, especially Katsuragi who just uses kicks instead of weapons. I'm getting this one as soon as it releases.
 
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Whenever I see a character design, I just assure that the artist knows better than BABD.
Yeah, I'm not the biggest fan of super sexualised designs, but I've never liked blogs by amateur (and that's saying it nicely) artist who seem to think that they just know better than illustrators with more than a decade of experience in the industry. Blogs like Escher Girls and BABD are just the worse of dumb layman nitpicking.
 
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Because why not? Games are mainstream and like Hollywood blockbusters tend to sell sex, maybe in not so obvious manner, but still. And let's be honest, people of all genders are attracted to good looking/hot characters. Is this a sin and grave misjudgement? Not at all, as we tend (even subconsciously) to pick our partners according of their appearance/sex-appeal. I'm totally fine with dev's exploiting our prime instincts, like every other entertainment industry does.

Signed, your male toxic alt-right gamer dad, who enjoys porn.
I agree completely. If it's wrong to be attracted to scantily clad disproportionate females with skin tight outfits, I'm guilty af.
Keep those sexy character designs coming. I love em.
 
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Yeah, I'm not the biggest fan of super sexualised designs, but I've never liked blogs by amateur (and that's saying it nicely) artist who seem to think that they just know better than illustrators with more than a decade of experience in the industry. Blogs like Escher Girls and BABD are just the worse of dumb layman nitpicking.
I really hated the Escher Girls blog. I ended up in a fight with a women who tried to shame me for a commission I did a few years ago who used the Escher Girls blog to argue my art was offensive and "wrong" like Escher Girls was some kind of rule book.

I'm open to criticism, I know some of my art has anatomy problems, sometimes it's hard to avoid in commissions if your asked to make lots of pose changes, but I'm not open to being shamed for the themes in my art, especially if I'm being paid to draw it. Suffice it to say, she brought homophobia, sexism, racism and transphobia into it and argued the commissioner was wrong, too... This was all over a pin-up of Anna from Tekken. lol.

Those are the kind of people that grind my gears, they always think they are superior to you and want to lecture you, like anyone they lecture will suddenly "see the light".
 
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I see a lot of comments pushing very far right views on GAF at the moment (I appreciate these used to be far left, which was also lame). In fact, I'd say the vast majority of GAF users now lean to the far right. So, yes: moderating opinions that are very on the right would result in GAF's right-leaning users feeling alienated.
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Im going to go out on a limb and say you have absolutely no idea what 'far right' views are. Do you?

I mean, the very idea that the vast majority here leans far right is absurd. Voting republican doesnt make one far right, and I bet the majority here didn't even do that. And sure, there are definitely some Libertarians, but they generally have extremely forward-thinking views on social issues, even if i dont agree with them on every economic issue.

The problem is in recent years certain people have started labeling themselves Progressive, but are actually strict authoritarians that sent the true far left running years ago. The current 'progressive' crop are left in name only. They define anyone they disagree with as far right. Which is silly for any number of reasons.

But from the sounds of it, you'd struggle to even define the right, let alone the far right. As for me? Im about as left of center as you can get, and have been for longer than many here have been alive. Voting Democrats are far to the right of me. But the authoritarian regime of so called progressives would put me in the bin with anyone else who calls out authoritarianism for what it is.
 
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Oh yeah, Guilty Gear. I picked up Rev 2 last year and just went wow at Ramlethal. Lithe figure, toned legs and abs. So very nice to look at and her idle animation and dialogue with her weapon is hilarious. That along with her stage theme really help sell her.

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I love the red haired variant too:

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Oh yeah, Guilty Gear. I picked up Rev 2 last year and just went wow at Ramlethal. Lithe figure, toned legs and abs. So very nice to look at and her idle animation and dialogue with her weapon is hilarious. That along with her stage theme really help sell her.

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I love the red haired variant too:

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I really want her new figure that comes out next month.

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this thread would have received a lock and several warnings and bans would have been given out before the migration.

Freedom is a beautiful thing

(btw, i don't support the alt right and I'm about as far left as one could possibly be and not be labeled a terrorist)

If you think that's something, there was a time in the forum's distant past when there was semi-regular Hot Chicks threads in OT.
 
Women are sex objects. Men are sex objects. The sad, ugly people of the world want you to forget that. Thankfully there are still artists out there who appreciate beauty.
 
If you want me to present an argument on what differentiates 'hard puzzles' from sex in video games then I'm out. It's been a pleasure.

Sex in film, books, and tv? Fine.

Sex in video games? For shame!

For bonus points, the reasoning often seems to be so that video games are taken seriously as an art form. Yeah, you do realize that means sex, right? We dont take literature less seriously if it has a sex scene. Hell, We dont judge all books just because you can buy a romance novel [marketed to women] in which they go through a harem of perfectly chiseled men. We dont judge breaking bad because spartacus has a lot of boobs and dicks swinging around. Hell, we dont even hate spartacus for that!

But video games? Sex is bad. Cover it all up. Won`t someone think of the pixels.

Fucking a, your entire view of this subject is absurd. You are so sure of your moral righteousness you have no idea how morally reprehensible, let alone f'ing stupid, your position is.
 
I'd like to post a success story here.

My older sister saw me playing Dead or Alive Xtreme 2 on 360 years ago. She made some jokes about seeing why I like to play this game (expected), then she asked to try it. She agreed it was actually pretty fun too and we played it together multiple times. It was no big deal.
 
I'm usually fine with it although, I found Quiet in MGS5 kinda ruined a lot of the cutscnenes with her in it because of how dumb it was.
the thing about Quiet though is that her design perfectly fits into the world kojima has created. Many characters male or female are highly sexualized. Just take a look at vamp , fortune, the 4 from mgs4 and so on. That is why I never did understand the criticism of her. Again people often forget context and slut-shaming characters based on what they are wearing.
 
There should be more fan service in games, in recent times this has gone way down. We need more.
Thats also pretty annoying.

People complain over over sexualized characters all fucking day while in reality the only games which still have sexy characters are japanese games. There is almost no sexualiazation in western games anymore which is quote sad to be honest.
 
Thats also pretty annoying.

People complain over over sexualized characters all fucking day while in reality the only games which still have sexy characters are japanese games. There is almost no sexualiazation in western games anymore which is quote sad to be honest.
If that's true, to me whether it's sad depends entirely on the reason behind it. If the reason is creative choice then I don't find it sad in the least. If it's because of societal pressure, that's sad.
 
Thats also pretty annoying.

People complain over over sexualized characters all fucking day while in reality the only games which still have sexy characters are japanese games. There is almost no sexualiazation in western games anymore which is quote sad to be honest.
Now that I think of it...are there any AAA games that feature titillating female character designs which released recently? Atm, I can only think of MGS5 (Quiet).
 
If that's true, to me whether it's sad depends entirely on the reason behind it. If the reason is creative choice then I don't find it sad in the least. If it's because of societal pressure, that's sad.
Indeed. I think there are a couple of "valid" reasons for such a thing to happen, e.g.:
-the market share of women who buy core games increased to a point that devs feel the need to self-censor in order to not scare of part of their customer base (whether or not that would actually be the case)
-the amount of women in actual game development increased significantly and they are simply not interested in titillating character designs.
-the budget of AAA game ballooned to such a height that devs are forced to cater to as many potential buyers as possible. In the process they are betting on winning more customers through featuring less (or none at all) titillating characters, while simultaneously hoping that this will not matter to their established fan-base enough to actually jump ship.
 
Great thread.
I love seeing sexy girls in games. When this topic was raised on old-gaf and people would complain about sexualization, I think there was a lot of jealousy and resentment because these fictional characters would promote a beauty ideal that most girls couldnt compete with and/or could never retain (time destroys us all). It sucks that most of us will never look the way we really want to, but I dont think its fair to deny other people the pleasure of observing beauty because of it.
Some of my favorite sexy gils include...

Lisa from DoA5. The slingshot bikini has such a simple but great design.

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Emma Frost from (the now dead) Marvel Heroes. This design exposes much of the side of the body (like the slingshot outfit), which I love.

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Ivy in Soul Calibur V. Im really looking forward to this game.

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Street Fighter V has a bunch of sexy girls too, but I find the games stylization detracts a little from them (giant hands and feet etc).

Good looking characters are great but they can be oversexualized. Would you want characters like Quiet in every game?

Uh... yes?
I actually wish she wore make up on her face too. In that context, I find her under-sexualized :D

Attractive females in video games are not just good, great or acceptable, they are WONDERFUL!

And they should keep be in games, regardless of what a small, vocal, offended by pixels minority thinks about it, and the majority that likes them say or type.

To have this conversation today means that our divide in communication is so rabidly escalating.

NEVER FORGET!!

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Great post. I was gonna post that gif too. Its a classic (albeit censored) animation.
 
Indeed. I think there are a couple of "valid" reasons for such a thing to happen, e.g.:
-the market share of women who buy core games increased to a point that devs feel the need to self-censor in order to not scare of part of their customer base (whether or not that would actually be the case)
-the amount of women in actual game development increased significantly and they are simply not interested in titillating character designs.
-the budget of AAA game ballooned to such a height that devs are forced to cater to as many potential buyers as possible. In the process they are betting on winning more customers through featuring less (or none at all) titillating characters, while simultaneously hoping that this will not matter to their established fan-base enough to actually jump ship.
While I think these are valid reasons, I would classify all but the second reason as sad. Not because I have any particular affection for "sexy" characters in games; when it makes for a better game I like it, and when it doesn't I don't, and to me it usually it doesn't. But when decisions are made in creative mediums that are financially motivated and/or that are intended to cater to an audience, even though I acknowledge that it may in many cases be necessary, I find it sad.

Ideally I'd like creative individuals and teams to make decisions for no other reason than because they believe it's best for their work. Not for an audience, not to maximize profit, not to avoid running afoul of puritans. I know it's often not feasible, but when it's not I hope people try to get as close to that ideal as possible, and I hope that we as audiences encourage that ideal as much as possible. In my opinion it not only brings the greatest personal fulfillment to the people doing the work, but also results in the best work.
 
Ok, apparently DoA did have realistic boob physics for a brief time, looking at that gif of Lisa above. God, she's so beautiful, why did Tecmo keep her out of DoAX3 :(
 
the thing about Quiet though is that her design perfectly fits into the world kojima has created. Many characters male or female are highly sexualized. Just take a look at vamp , fortune, the 4 from mgs4 and so on. That is why I never did understand the criticism of her. Again people often forget context and slut-shaming characters based on what they are wearing.

Funny you should mention Vamp, I actually thought he was one of the dumber characters back when I played it.

MGS5 is weird it goes from



which I actually thought was pretty darn cool scene, would I have preferred Quiet in a more fitting outfit to make it more immersive? Yeah I would have, (which is why I modded it on PC).

but then we get uhhh this piece of work.


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at least we got this out of it

 
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MGS5 is weird

I have a bone to pick with Hideo Kojima with regards to MGS5 & Quiet, i.e. an 'unusual' complaint which would probably be incomprehensible for former GAF: Quiet's problem isn't her outfit, her character or the weird stuff she does (rain scene for the win), no, it's the fact her model fails to accurately convey the actual real life über-super-sexy-fcking-perfect Stefanie Joosten: https://www.taringa.net/posts/image...a-la-hermosa-Stefanie-Joosten-Quiet-MGSV.html

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She's far more attractive in real life in MGS. Shame on you, Kojima.
 
All things being equal, attractive characters are more appealing than ugly characters. Imagine if Clint Howard had been cast as Han Solo instead of Harrison Ford. Nobody would have given a shit about the character. Likewise, if Rosie O'Donnell has been cast as Wonder Woman instead of Gal Gadot, the movie would have tanked.

Fictional characters are often smarter, funnier, and more athletic than the average person. There's nothing wrong with making fictional characters more attractive than the average person too. People aren't launching campaigns insisting that video game characters should be dumber or less athletic, so it's bizarre when people demand to see more frumpy and ugly video game characters.
 
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