come on, GTFO of here with that completely sane post. read the room.Out of the gate, I see it doing better than the Wii U. Long term it's hard to guess, but once they really consolidate their handheld and console development under one screen, I'm expecting a lot more going forward.
It's a pretty impressive launch year, don't you think? If we look at the XB1 and PS4 launch years I don't think you can point out very many compelling experiences. PS4 in particular had a really abysmal launch year
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What does everyone think?
I mean, just... what happened with Nintendo's executive culture? I've been assuming for four years that they were humble and in freak-out mode and realized in retrospect how massively they'd fucked up, and they were asking themselves questions like "How did we produce so much hardware and software that's totally unappealing? What can we do to apologize to our fans and make it up to them? How can we completely change and update our whole way of thinking to match the needs and desires of 2017 gamers? How can we use our war chest to deliver a huge amount of appealing software cheap and win back market share?"
But everything about yesterday suggests that they learned absolutely none of those lessons. It suggests that they have an insular executive culture of back-patting and mutual reinforcement, like George Lucas surrounded by his sycophants or something. They seem to really believe that the Wii and DS are the norm and the Wii U the exception, despite all evidence to the contrary. They seem to think their whole way of thinking is fundamentally correct, that their products are just the best, and that the Wii U's failure is... a fluke? Somebody else's fault? Anything but a sign that their entire approach to video games is fundamentally broken.
How else do you explain a $300 handheld right after their $250 handheld and $300 console had trouble selling? How else do you explain the online play subscription fee with absolute garbage value-added? How else do you explain $70 and $110 controllers? How else do you explain 1,2,Switch with its hilariously dreadful minigames, a collection that to all appearances makes Nintendo Land look like the game of the century? I mean, pretending to milk a cow? Counting balls? For $50? Are you fucking kidding me? Is this a joke? This is what Nintendo thinks is the new Wii, the new mass-market killer? A bunch of corporate icebreakers that make the average VR shovelware look like a masterpiece?
How did Nintendo's decision-makers get this bad? How could they possibly be so insulated from the real world to be this delusional?
Are you Nintendo diehard fans really hyping up HD rumble...?.........................??...............?
I guarantee you if the switch had specs even CLOSE to an xbox one the backlash would be dramatically reduced by that fact alone.
come on, GTFO of here with that completely sane post. read the room.
totally agree. E3 will be interesting, I suspect they withheld some significant stuff for June (though I'm not convinced this was the right strategy). At this point Nintendo probably sees the game as a long play into the 2017 holiday season. I think by then we'll be able to gauge whether the system is a success, but whether they have more to show in June will be a big hint to that end.
I'm thinking if they market is as a portable/handheld that comes with a TV dock, it'd have a better reception.
But the lack of launch games and price of peripherals is unacceptable no matter what.
Is this a selling point?
This shit gonna bomb so hard, only hope is that they can get the price down and flex that Pokémon brand hardcore. Like stars better wow the shit outta people this holiday season. Where the fuck do they get off with charging $70 for a pro controller though and Nintendo must be outta their mind charging for online. What are people even gonna play online? Mario kart?
People freaking out about the price of the console are weirding me out. It's a home console that you can take with you, not a dedicated portable.
The peripheral prices are garbage, sure. But still.
No company ever could afford selling a portable machine with xbox one specs for $300.
No company ever could afford selling a portable machine with xbox one specs for $300.
it isn't portable with such low battery time
There is nothing inherently wrong for charging for online gaming at this point (unfortunate but true), however you have to have value-adds, robust network infrastructure, proper account system, family plan of some sort, etc...I think this is a plausible scenario. Because I can't see it being wildly successful this year, but maybe once they lower the price and either renege or revamp that paid online nonsense, then we'll see where it goes.
I actually don't think it has a bad price compared to its specs. There actually is a lot of tech in there, two controllers and a portable tablet each with their own batteries, gyroscopes, ir, a decent sized screen, okish hardware, wifi, yadda, yadda. It has a lot of shit, the thing is the spec balance, I'm sure the portable crowd wishes there was no dock and the controllers weren't removable and maybe weaken it a tad more to get the formfactor and battery life up there and the console crowds thinking, fuck all these switching nonsense, get rid of the joycons, their batteries, the screen make it a tad bigger and increase airflow or add active cooling so it can be clocked higher and give us real storage, again, yadda, yadda. Kinda the same deal with the Wii U, it's not that for the price it wasn't what was worth what it was but that depending on the type of gamer you were, if the concept wasn't a winner you couldn't help but think what it'd be like if the hundred bucks or whatever that went to the gamepad had also gone into the system's specs as well and what a nice system that'd have been.PS4 had a decent price for its specs.
Switch has a terrible price for its specs.
This is not hard to understand or a double standard.
Are people really going to be buying the joycon and switch in droves because "THERE ARE ICE CUBES IN MY CONTROLLER!"?Why wouldn't it be?
ps4 has a touch pad, gyroscope, and voice commands.Does PS4/XBO have HD Rumble?
I guarantee you if the switch had specs even CLOSE to an xbox one the backlash would be dramatically reduced by that fact alone.
Where's Thor 2: The Dark World Tier?
Voted: Improvement from GameCube/Wii U
Mainly because of handheld Pokemon
Are you Nintendo diehard fans really hyping up HD rumble...?.........................??...............?
We buy Nintendo consoles for Nintendo games....who the hell would buy a Nintendo Console for GTA?
Why wouldn't it be?
You think the backlash is mostly over specs??
No. PS4 launch year was great, the Switch launch year is abysmal. Take off the rose-tinted glasses.
That doesn't make it not portableit isn't portable with such low battery time
lmao whatNo. PS4 launch year was great, the Switch launch year is abysmal. Take off the rose-tinted glasses.
Resogun was amazing... and that's about it?It was?
They hit all the right notes with that launch.
They could've made the dock more powerful...