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Betting time: Do you think the Switch will be a success?
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StoppedInTracks
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Are you Nintendo diehard fans really hyping up HD rumble...?.........................??...............?
come on, GTFO of here with that completely sane post. read the room.
totally agree. E3 will be interesting, I suspect they withheld some significant stuff for June (though I'm not convinced this was the right strategy). At this point Nintendo probably sees the game as a long play into the 2017 holiday season. I think by then we'll be able to gauge whether the system is a success, but whether they have more to show in June will be a big hint to that end.
Agent Unknown
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I'm still glad I preordered and look forward to playing a (hopefully) smooth frame rate enabled BoTW anywhere I want but I'm really worried after the presentation and pricing. Spending money on pointless "HD Rumble" which probably helped jack up the base model price and the sheer, downright self destructive gall of pricing extra Joycons at $80 and Pro controllers at $70. They're targeting family play and party multiplayer again but what parent next November is going to look at spending hundreds of dollars on a Switch, extra controllers, ect. and not go for a cheap PS4 or XB1 bundle instead? It's a flat out insane and self contradicting non-strategy. The worst thing is the concept for the system is so great and it's supposed to replace 3DS but unless a lot more games and a Pokemon RPG are announced soon there is no way it's doing that the way things are looking. Heck, I have a lot of 3DS games I'm still working on, I'll probably end up playing my 3DS a lot more this year than my Switch once I finish BoTW because what else will there be to play outside of stuff like Arm and minigames until Mario Odyssey in November? Betting negative/neutral at best.
Parapraxis
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No. PS4 launch year was great, the Switch launch year is abysmal. Take off the rose-tinted glasses.
Anoregon
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I feel the same way about pretty much all of this. The high-level decision making at Nintendo has seemed rotten for a while now and it clearly isn't getting better. They have a genuinely appealing and fun console design that they are hamstringing in every possible way.
I never would have guessed that last night's conference would leave me with so many concerns that the ever-present third party issue barely even registers as important by comparison.
Yeah man, I dunno. I would gladly - gladly - sacrifice "HD rumble" if it meant the controllers weren't ludicrously expensive. It's the thing I never knew I wanted and wait no I still don't really want it.
No company ever could afford selling a portable machine with xbox one specs for $300.
FleetingFlowAir
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I have been thinking so many times that this will get the 3DS Year 1 treatment now that the price is revealed:
-Console releases
-Fine for a month or two, but things wind down due to lack of other big titles
-Sales are rubbish
-Nintendo announces a price drop/Ambassador Program during E3 or some Summer Direct
-Things pick back up in the holidays, other third-party groups (mainly those who have done 3DS games before) follow through in the next year
Would rather wait a couple months after launch and see how things turn out.
-Console releases
-Fine for a month or two, but things wind down due to lack of other big titles
-Sales are rubbish
-Nintendo announces a price drop/Ambassador Program during E3 or some Summer Direct
-Things pick back up in the holidays, other third-party groups (mainly those who have done 3DS games before) follow through in the next year
Would rather wait a couple months after launch and see how things turn out.
cropduster
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I think it will pick up momentum once games start coming out and when bundles and price drops hit. If it's the only successor to both the Wii U and 3ds, I think it will do well because it will be the only place to play Mario, Zelda, Pokémon, Animal Crossing, etc.
Agree with you two guys. Once those consolidated handheld/console dev teams get pumping we should be seeing much smaller first party game droughts than we've seen on Wii U and Wii.
Buttonbasher
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People freaking out about the price of the console are weirding me out. It's a home console that you can take with you, not a dedicated portable.
The peripheral prices are garbage, sure. But still.
The peripheral prices are garbage, sure. But still.
it isn't portable with such low battery time
Why wouldn't it be?
Out of the announced games we have Mario Kart, Splatoon 2, Super Bomberman R, Arms, Fast Racing RMX, something about VC titles having online(?), probably some other stuff in the games that were announced so far.
The peripheral price is the only thing I'm actively frustrated about. $300 for the console itself is a little more expensive than I'd have hoped for but it's not that much of a dealbreaker to me. When everything compounds on itself I can see why people are frustrated admittedly.
Majmun
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They could've made the dock more powerful...
nogoodnamesleft
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Firstly, i said "close". Secondly, it is not uncommon at all for hardware companies to take losses on hardware, so yes its possible.
Portable xbox one specs? no. CONSIDERABLY BETTER than the garbage dished up to us? Yes. definitely.
It will survive my 2 hour work commute so for me that's portable. Obviously other people's mileage will vary.
Pop-O-Matic
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Where's Thor 2: The Dark World Tier?
StereoVsn
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There is nothing inherently wrong for charging for online gaming at this point (unfortunate but true), however you have to have value-adds, robust network infrastructure, proper account system, family plan of some sort, etc...
I see none of the above in Nintendo's reveal.
I actually don't think it has a bad price compared to its specs. There actually is a lot of tech in there, two controllers and a portable tablet each with their own batteries, gyroscopes, ir, a decent sized screen, okish hardware, wifi, yadda, yadda. It has a lot of shit, the thing is the spec balance, I'm sure the portable crowd wishes there was no dock and the controllers weren't removable and maybe weaken it a tad more to get the formfactor and battery life up there and the console crowds thinking, fuck all these switching nonsense, get rid of the joycons, their batteries, the screen make it a tad bigger and increase airflow or add active cooling so it can be clocked higher and give us real storage, again, yadda, yadda. Kinda the same deal with the Wii U, it's not that for the price it wasn't what was worth what it was but that depending on the type of gamer you were, if the concept wasn't a winner you couldn't help but think what it'd be like if the hundred bucks or whatever that went to the gamepad had also gone into the system's specs as well and what a nice system that'd have been.
And since the Wii U and Switch both have "gimmicks" or niches that don't directly compete with the competition that value gets muddied. Is the ability to pick it up and play it on the go worth a weaker GPU? Was the need to be close to a console in power worth the low battery life and the shit form factor? How much are those worth? The Xbox One and PS4 compare against each other easily, the Wii U and Switch were slightly different value propositions than Sony and Microsoft.
El-Pistolero
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It will fare better than the WiiU, but nowhere near Wii level.
MaximumSpider
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Are people really going to be buying the joycon and switch in droves because "THERE ARE ICE CUBES IN MY CONTROLLER!"?
Wishmaster92
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ps4 has a touch pad, gyroscope, and voice commands.
Also nobody uses any of that shit.
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almost forgot
light bar on the controller!!!
SmokedMeat
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You think the backlash is mostly over specs??
QuantumBro
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That's the improvement from WiiU/Gamecube tier. Nintendo would love to have a Thor 2 level success.
Maintenance
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Said that before in this thread, Mainline Pokémon, portable Monster Hunter and Animal Crossing will keep this from being another Wii U.
chillybright
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A little above WiiU tier because it might capture some Japanese handheld market that won't shift to mobile.
Have you tried it?
Omega Kirby
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And thats why you get 10m to 22 Million sales
bumpkin
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In a word: No.
In more words: Awesome concept that challenges the home vs handheld paradigm, attractive hardware, the power of Nintendo's IP, seemingly strong third party support, but the same price as more powerful hardware and ludicrously overpriced accessories ($70 for a Pro Controller?).
I want it to succeed, but I will be surprised if it does any better than the Wii U.
In more words: Awesome concept that challenges the home vs handheld paradigm, attractive hardware, the power of Nintendo's IP, seemingly strong third party support, but the same price as more powerful hardware and ludicrously overpriced accessories ($70 for a Pro Controller?).
I want it to succeed, but I will be surprised if it does any better than the Wii U.
Majmun
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I don't see it.
Don't think anyone would choose HD rumble over HD graphics when picking up a game
Not entirely but the posters point still stands. The price point could be forgiven if it was up to current standards.
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TheBanditKing
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I think it will sell better then Wii U, but there are a lot of unknowns here to consider. The console is a bit pricey and right now there are massive gaps in the release calendar, honestly they should have ported some of the more recent Wii U games to pad the launch. Still both of those still were not as big of a shock as the accessory prices, I mean WTF? $80-100 for the joy cons, and $70 for the pro controller (why this is even a thing to Nintendo is beyond me) when the upgraded smash port/new one comes out I'm looking at $280 just so I have enough controllers for me, my bros and friends thats kind of ass.
The launch is a little weak, I'll be the first to admit it. But they have some amazing software planned for the first year, and I think the core hook of the hardware is genius. 1 2 Switch and Snipperclips both show off the anywhere/anytime multiplayer really well, and while I don't think catch on as easily as the Wii did, I think it has potential to really take off. I think it'll be a success for sure, but we'll see if it's a Wii style phenomenon.
Resogun was amazing... and that's about it?
Not really. The games must run in Handheld mode as well. If you "overcharge" the dock, you would soon have 2 tiers of games and then the shared library would not be a feature anymore.
But: Nintendo is certainly able to dish out incremental hardware updates every 2 years like Sony or MS. Maybe next time.
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