RiccochetJ
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Are there new achievements? I maxed out the ones on 360 and steam. Yes, I'm one of those people.
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BioShock: The Collection - Announcement Trailer
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TheOnlyOneHeEverFeared
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If they're gonna take the multiplayer trophies from B2, they must be putting a couple of new ones in. Or just combining the trophy lists with the DLC trophies.
That just sounds like a port. To be fair though, it's just called "the collection" and not "remaster."
Markitron
Is currently staging a hunger strike outside Gearbox HQ while trying to hate them to death
Well there are no certain definitions, but most people consider a port to be a straight up translation with no improvements whatsoever. For example I would consider the PS4/XB1 versions of Prototype and Dishonored ports.
Rudimental
Member
I thought it was quite good, because
it acts as a mirror image of Delta's story (on the good/neutral ending), which involves a symbolic restoration of his humanity in saving Eleanor at the cost of his life. This is the opposite of Meltzer, who gives up his humanity to be with his daughter while preserving his own life.
Right, Blind Squirrel is doing the remasters. It lent a helping hand to a few other 2K titles: Borderlands 2, XCOM: EU, Evolve and, funnily enough, BioInf.
Alpha Phoenix
Member
No talk on achievements, but I feel they're just going to reuse them.
I maxed out Infinite, but I'm just not going to do Clash in the Clouds ever again.
Figure that i thought about buying it for 60$ on Xbox One just to go get a few achievements even though i've got a gaming PC and Bioshock 1 and 2 already on Steam so i'll get the collection for free...of course i'm just gonna replay them on PC
CaptainofIndustry
Member
Never played Bioshock 2 but really enjoyed Bioshock 1 and Infinite. I think I'll get this.
OrbitalBeard
Member
In some ways, Bioshock 2 is the best in the series. And apparently Minerva's Den is amazing, which is included in this collection.
Assuming this remaster is an improvement over the original games, I'm probably going to have to buy this as well.
Caffeine
Member
probably from a 2k humble bundle lol
lazyproblems
Member
Yesss, I'm totally in for these! Can't wait to get back into the games.
ProtomanNeo
Member
Tempted. My 360 RRod'd when I was a couple of hours into Infinite (I wasn't impressed) Maybe I'll give it another shot.
Alex Stroud
Banned
Playing Bioshock 2 first. The step back combat took in Infinite was fucking pathetic. Levine better apologize for that first thing in his video.
GavinUK86
Member
Why would he apologize for something you didn't like it? I thought it was fine.
This is accurate, at least for the retail key. I just activated the copy I bought at launch yesterday and got Minerva's Den for free.
They're not including Bioshock 2's multiplayer, I'm not sure it'll be shared or even the same trophy/achievement lists.
dreamstation
Member
How'd you go mate? Any luck?
Would love to know their plans before the current steam sale ends.
funkystudent
Member
I wish I could just buy Bioshock 1 again on PS4.
I wish more HD collections let you buy the games individually.
More then likely wont buy this as a result. Got zero interest in replaying 2 or Infinite.
I wish more HD collections let you buy the games individually.
More then likely wont buy this as a result. Got zero interest in replaying 2 or Infinite.
Enh, apologize is a little aggressive, but I agree that 2 was the peak of the series from a gameplay and systems perspective. Lots of options in terms of weapons, character perks, plasmids, etc. There were a ton of ways to play the game. Infinite? Not so much.
Regginator
Member
Except Dishonored DE was an improvement over the last gen 720 version. It's the 30fps that people were (rightfully) disappointed about, but it has visual improvements.
Angry Fork
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Anyone know if the free PC upgrade is just for 1 game? Like you decide either Bio 1 or 2? And does it include the DLC? If that's the case I wonder if there will be a discount on the other game or how much they would cost individually. I'm assuming the remaster of Infinite won't be much of a remaster since it's still relatively recent/new.
edit - Nevermind I guess it's both bio 1 and 2 as long as you have Minerva's Den too which is cool if that's the case.
edit - Nevermind I guess it's both bio 1 and 2 as long as you have Minerva's Den too which is cool if that's the case.
Nothing yet and as it's the weekend I doubt I'll get a reply before Monday. I've sent off an e-mail to 2K's PR e-mail address, though, so with any luck perhaps that'll result in a quicker response.
Infinite isn't being remastered as "it already meets current-gen console standards and runs smoothly on high visual settings."
Nizz
Member
Only ever played the first Bioshock on a 360. Went back to Sony and PS3 and thought about picking Bioshock 1 again but the framerate wasn't too hot and they mapped aim and shoot on L2/R2 with no way to switch. Will definitely get this for PS4 as I've never played the second game nor Infinite.
In for this. Would love to play Bioshock one and two again and I never played the dlc for infinite.
Bioshock 2 has the best gameplay in the series and one of the best dlc's I've played last gen.
Bioshock 2 has the best gameplay in the series and one of the best dlc's I've played last gen.
Regginator
Member
I think we still don't have confirmation regarding Minerva's Den. Is it included in the BioShock 2 remaster by default or is it a separate DLC again? And as a follow up question, do we need to have Minerva's Den to qualify for the upgrade or will the base BioShock 2 suffice?
Seems like a rather straightforward question, but unfortunately I don't think there's been a straightforward answer. Their phrasing of "and/or" seems to indicate the latter where base BioShock 2 also nets you a free Minerva's Den for the remaster.
Seems like a rather straightforward question, but unfortunately I don't think there's been a straightforward answer. Their phrasing of "and/or" seems to indicate the latter where base BioShock 2 also nets you a free Minerva's Den for the remaster.
brokenbeans
Banned
I have some time off close to this so may have to pick it up.
DoctorFling
Member
I do wish they would do a Deus Ex Human Revolution Director's Cut deal with Bioshock and fix the final boss, would make it the definitive version of the game by a mile.
Eh...The final boss of Bioshock was uninteresting and boring, but it wasn't too hard or anything, the Deus Ex boss changes were necessary because the bosses ran counter to the entire design philosophy of the rest of the game and rendered entire legitimate ways of playing the 'normal' parts of the game totally ineffective.
Bioshock's final boss problems are less functionality related and more narrative imo. They could make the mechanics 100 times more interesting and it still would be a very strange and dumb final boss. (I also don't think theycould do that within the confines of what that game already controls like/lets you do).
Irrational got back to me and, uh, told me to ask 2K. You'd think a Take-Two subsidiary that has been advertising the collection would have been of more assistance.
I mean, why would they have any knowledge of it? They're not making the game and they're certainly not the ones in control of who is getting free copies of it. Blind Squirrel and 2k are both better choices to ask (2k being the correct one as the publisher).
My hope wasn't that Irrational would know but rather it would pass the message on to someone at 2K and get back to me, which doesn't strike me as a tall order given the two share a metaphorical roof (someone working at Irrational is in a far better position to contact someone in the know at 2K than an outsider who has to use a general PR e-mail address or go through front-line support staff) and Irrational has been advertising the collection. If Irrational had no ties to the collection whatsoever beyond simply being "The developer of the original releases of BioShock and BioShock Infinite", then, believe me, I would have crossed it off as an option; but since it's been something of a mouthpiece, I figured asking it to clarify the matter would be worth a shot. I decided against contacting Blind Squirrel as it seldom updates its Facebook page (the website lists no e-mail address) and had already contacted 2K prior to Irrational's reply.
Doctor Ironic
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When they converted Bioshock 2 from GFWL to Steamworks, they gave Minerva's Den for free to everyone who owned it before the switch (since there was no way to give it based on who owned it on GFWL since that store was shut down.)
JohnnyFootball
GerAlt-Right. Ciriously.
I see a lot of people talking about it so I will add to it: if you're playing Bioshock for the first time and enjoy it make damn sure you don't skimp on Minerva's Den. It's a fantastic piece of side content.
I was poking around on 2K's support website and discovered that the ticket system has a BioShock Collection category in place and one of the pre-defined questions is with regard to owners of a retail copy of BioShock PC being eligible for a Steam key, so I'd guess that those who own a non-Steam version of BioShock will be covered but will have to submit some form of proof of ownership. Bio2's GFWL keys were whitelisted by Valve while BioInf is Steamworks (and not being remastered), so no potential issues there.
WouldYouKindly
Banned
My body is ready i will plat all three glady again
Big Green Anus
Member
Happy to experience Bioshock 1 and 2 for the first time other than playing demos.
uncleniccius
Member
Sorry for the bump, but leess than a month to go. I'll be really interested to see how performance is. I have only played Infinite+DLC so I'd love to play 1/2+DLC.
If it performs well on console this will be day one.
If it performs well on console this will be day one.
Damn.
You're going to go from the worst game in the shock series to the best. Bioshock 2 has the best gameplay in the series, combining the atmosphere from the first with significant gameplay improvements.
Bioshock 1 doesn't play very well, but since you haven't played it before the atmosphere will be incredible and the story will hit you.
If you enjoy the series, I would recommend taking a look at System Shock 2, it's one of the best games of all time and was the predecessor to Bioshock 1.
SmashN'Grab
Member
I have all three on Steam - does anyone know how the upgrade process will work? As in, will the titles get a background update or will there be three new games in my library upon release?
uncleniccius
Member
I should say that I tried the original Bioshock on PS3 for about an hour. The performance on it was awful though, and this was a long time after it came out so I didn't stick with it.
I can get over the gameplay though, it is an amazing world. I actually enjoyed Infinite despite the ridiculous and convoluted plot. The only thing that concerns me with the remaster is performance as I said. Fingers crossed it is solid - it bloody well should be considering how old the games are.
BioInf will not get an update on PC as far as I recall. It already meets the next gen standards I think they said. Which is to say that the console version is going to be a straight port from PC as well, as opposed to a real remaster.
As for the two others, I don't think they've said, but I imagine Bio1 and 2 will both get new apps that will someday just appear in our libraries as new games alongside the old games.
Outlaw Torn
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Store Page is up on Xbox One. The games will not be sold separately on consoles.
https://www.microsoft.com/store/p/bioshock-the-collection/c2hcdg7l1469
Bioshock 16.42 GB - https://www.microsoft.com/store/p/bioshock/bncbcs5rjwh7
Bioshock 2 16.64 GB - https://www.microsoft.com/store/p/bioshock-2/bp8t903fzl2x
Bioshock Infinite 36.35 GB - https://www.microsoft.com/store/p/bioshock-infinite/btc8br7v276x
https://www.microsoft.com/store/p/bioshock-the-collection/c2hcdg7l1469
Bioshock 16.42 GB - https://www.microsoft.com/store/p/bioshock/bncbcs5rjwh7
Bioshock 2 16.64 GB - https://www.microsoft.com/store/p/bioshock-2/bp8t903fzl2x
Bioshock Infinite 36.35 GB - https://www.microsoft.com/store/p/bioshock-infinite/btc8br7v276x
ElzarTheBam
Member
God dang, thank god for externals.