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[Twookie]

sounds nice but god please stop doing that fake ass tv voice

 

[JaseC]

No pre-release access tier seems a little strange given there's an MP component.

 

[AusRoachman]

So the concept is like a Quantum Break but for space instead of time?

Didn't get that impression at all . I would actually be excited for a time powered quantum break ish combat game but this just sounded like game with lots of time periods and weapons .

Either way it sounds like they don't even have an engine or game started yet . Even very little concept art . Did they just start there game last week ?

 

[Xater]

After the video all we know is

- It's from the creators of doom
- there are at least 2 guys on the dev (did we mention both are creators of doom
- it has rocket jumping
- John is doing all the levels (like he did with doom remember)
- Ireland has nice castles which should do well for at least one of those black room levels
- the main protagonist has a terrible name
- did we mention how the community loved doom ?

You forgot that the corporation also has a very dumb name.

 

[EvilKatarn]

Lame pitch. Hope it turns out well but I'm not inclined to toss up money at this point.

 

[Alienous]

Didn't get that impression at all . I would actually be excited for a time powered quantum break ish combat game but this just sounded like game with lots of time periods and weapons .

Either way it sounds like they don't even have an engine or game started yet . Even very little concept art . Did they just start there game last week ?

The dude had a thing on his wrist as the narrative describes "Tools that let you hack your environment".

Maybe I'm just projecting.

 

[More_Badass]

Sounds interesting, but a Kickstarter with nothing but concept art is always a red flag, regardless of who's behind it

 

[Linkark07]

Even being Romero behind this pitch, I'm not backing it. Unless they show a prototype or something like that.

 

[Interfectum]

Wow the pitch is worse than I thought it would be. Cant believe anyone would give money based on that.

 

[lucebuce12]

This was such a barebones pitch. They're asking the people to fund on the basis of gameplay and level design yet shown none of it. The story is most definitely going to be the flimsiest excuse ever to show off the different environments so I don't know why they focused so much on that.

 

[ShadowSwordmaster]

You forgot that the corporation also has a very dumb name.

Sounds like a game from the 90's.

 

[jblank83]

They don't seem to mention an engine either, so I'm pretty sure they're at the concept art stage.

For a project at the concept art stage, $29 is a tall ask based only on reputation (and not a stellar reputation).

Good luck to them. If their game is amazing, I'll buy it when it's done.

 

[Sloane]

I'd be up for a game like this, MAYBE even with Romero at helm, but, yeah, that pitch is pretty bad.

 

[Bishop89]

come on Romero,

show us what you got

 

[m4st4]

Can't stand kickstarters that are just talk and concept art , need to really see prototype gameplay. Sounds like they are really hoping to live off there past glories which will probably work well enough but I would like to see more.

The pitch voiceover guy was laughable , it feels like it has a blood dragon tone but I'm not sure that's exactly what he's going for lol .

Hope to see some more actual gameplay in the next update .

So much this.

 

[johancruijff]

in this interview http://multiplayer.it/articoli/167183-blackroom-il-ritorno-di-john-romero.html (it's in italian) Romero says they're using the Unreal engine 4

 

[Sinatar]

Yea this is setting off my bullshit detector pretty hard.

Also $29 minimum buy in to get a copy, good luck with that.

 

[Dictator93]

Single player 💤💤💤💤💤💤💤💤

uh... yeah


ok

 

[Melkezadek]

I hate to this the word "cringe" at the promo and pitch but..good gracious that was hard to get through.

Interested in the game, though. I'm sure I'll like Doom well enough, but it's not feeling old school enough (at least the multiplayer I've played). As blandish as the art itself looked, I'm sure if they nail the oldschool FPS charm, it'll work.

 

[ashecitism]

Seems like they didn't prepare at all or learned from past KS failures. Smh.

 

[Rephil]

i don't know man... looks dubious.. and rushed, already..

 

[Draft]

The back of the box bullet points are right up my alley, but I don't kickstart games without gameplay footage. Not even for John Romero.

 

[atomsk]

Everything about this is kinda hilarious the more I look at it

"BLACKROOM: A New FPS from Romero & Carmack" is misleading as fuck.

Nothing but concept art.

The entire "achievements" section... ROMERO TWITTER FOLLOWERS, CREATE A WIKIPEDIA ENTRY.

This has dumpster fire written all over it

 

[Dictator93]

Can we presume 700K is an interest guaging sum for a real private backer?

700K would not cover the description of the game as it stands.

 

[rhandino]

Emmmmm, no.

 

[Arion]

The demonic voice at the end is this backwards.

To get Blackroom, you must fund the Kickstarter campaign by John Romero

 

[Xater]

Sounds interesting, but a Kickstarter with nothing but concept art is always a red flag, regardless of who's behind it

True. I think we are past the time when this was acceptable for Kickstarters. Having at least some kind of prototype presentation would be way better.

Sounds like a game from the 90's.

Yes, I am actually into the dumb names thing.

 

[Stumpokapow]

I don't think this Kickstarter should be rewarded. Talent and pedigree or not, it's 2016, we've had 4 years of major Kickstarters, we've seen a variety of different outcome from failure to success, it's time for backers to start using leverage to ensure there's a "there" there. It's not just that the KS was just concept art, it's that all we actually learned about the game design was also buzzword bingo.

 

[Rockk]

Can we presume 700K is an interest guaging sum for a real private backer?

700K would not cover the description of the game as it stands.

That's what the video states. Investors will provide the rest of the money after the kickstarter succeeds.

 

[LewieP]

Where is the breakdown of costs? Where is the discussion of basic technical details, like what engine is it to be running on?

I am tentatively interested in the game but not to the extent that I'd give them money for just turning up.

Perhaps if there was an early alpha demo or even some gameplay footage, but as it stands I'll not be funding this.

Also the "achievement" section made me vomit a little bit.

 

[Dictator93]

That's what the video states. Investors will provide the rest of the money after the kickstarter succeeds.

Thx. Have yet to watch the video as my connection is completely throttled atm

 

[Charles Alan Ratliff]

 

[ironcreed]

I don't think this Kickstarter should be rewarded. Talent and pedigree or not, it's 2016, we've had 4 years of major Kickstarters, we've seen a variety of different outcome from failure to success, it's time for backers to start using leverage to ensure there's a "there" there. It's not just that the KS was just concept art, it's that all we actually learned about the game design was also buzzword bingo.

 

[johancruijff]

The dude had a thing on his wrist as the narrative describes "Tools that let you hack your environment".

Maybe I'm just projecting.

The thing on the wrist is called a Boxel, a device used by Hoxar technicians to manipulate the simulations in the blackroom.

See it as a versatile gun, like the gravity gun, that allows you to manipulate the game setting, for example by blocking time or modifying the structure of the level

this an excerpt of the italian interview

(just made the translation, may be bad)

 

[Xater]

I don't think this Kickstarter should be rewarded. Talent and pedigree or not, it's 2016, we've had 4 years of major Kickstarters, we've seen a variety of different outcome from failure to success, it's time for backers to start using leverage to ensure there's a "there" there. It's not just that the KS was just concept art, it's that all we actually learned about the game design was also buzzword bingo.

Totally agree, which is why I won't back it. I still believe it will easily hit it's goal.

 

[Jobbs]

Sounds interesting, but a Kickstarter with nothing but concept art is always a red flag, regardless of who's behind it

Especially when the concept art looks like this

I wonder if the game is supposed to be a parody of 2000s sci fi shlock

 

[Fantomas]

- John is doing all the levels (like he did with doom remember)

You're probably just being sarcastic, but Romero didn't make every level in Doom. He did most of the levels in Episode 1, but otherwise it was Sandy Petersen, or levels that were started by Tom Hall and then later finished by Sandy Petersen.

 

[Stevey]

In for $60

 

[Baron_Calamity]

I don't think this Kickstarter should be rewarded. Talent and pedigree or not, it's 2016, we've had 4 years of major Kickstarters, we've seen a variety of different outcome from failure to success, it's time for backers to start using leverage to ensure there's a "there" there. It's not just that the KS was just concept art, it's that all we actually learned about the game design was also buzzword bingo.

Welp, I'm backing anyways! For today I am....

 

[MrCunningham]

I don't think this Kickstarter should be rewarded. Talent and pedigree or not, it's 2016, we've had 4 years of major Kickstarters, we've seen a variety of different outcome from failure to success, it's time for backers to start using leverage to ensure there's a "there" there. It's not just that the KS was just concept art, it's that all we actually learned about the game design was also buzzword bingo.

Yeah, a lot of phrases like "old school" and "back to what gamers want to see" type of talk, but nothing to really showcase. I do believe that John Romero can deliver what he is promising here, it seems like they aren't going too ambitious and sticking to a clear plan. But at the same time... you really need to show something. John releasing a new Doom level and telling everyone that it was a warm up for an upcoming project got me more excited than this, because there was something there.

It would also be nice if they could tell us what type of engine they are using. Are they going with UE4 or Unity? Or are they using their own proprietary tech?I would also love to know if this is going to be more like Doom or Quake. He did say "rocket jumping" I assume that would mean it will be like Quake.

 

[AusRoachman]

this an excerpt of the italian interview

(just made the translation, may be bad)

Wow all that shit would be really useful in a pitch video. Wtf are you doing Romero? Needed to get some more doom nostalgia in?

 

[CronoShot]

Only concept art and ideas? Not a single shred of the actual game's existence?

Red flags, red flags everywhere.

 

[Ixion]

I see a game lead, an art designer, and a musician. I don't see a programmer.

Romero is the programmer.

 

[wenis]

That's really cool. Hopefully it gets funded.

 

[SmiteOfHand]

I am interested, but agree they have some work to do in convincing people. Not the end of the world, they have 32 days. Cheesy premise is cool with me, parody or not. id shooters were never known for their... ahem.. strong writing. That Doom level Romero released and stuff like 2PP being involved leans things favorable for me.

 

[Rambler]

I'm rooting for you John...but I'm not betting on you.

 

[Rockk]

https://www.twitch.tv/theromero

stream in 10 min. get hyped

 

[LewieP]

So it's on UE4. I wonder what exactly that means for mod support, since it will have to be done through either mod tools the dev makes (which is a large undertaking for a small team) for via the UE4 sdk which comes with a host of challenges.

 

[Jay Shadow]

I'm rooting for you John...but I'm not betting on you.

That sums it up pretty well.

 

[Granadier]

Snoozefest. Sorry Romero and Carmack.