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Break me off a piece of that: Android 4.4 KItKat officially released
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Finally, i hate those widgets.
Btw, dont know if related to 4.4 or not, but when will they fix the bug in chrome, where (mainly on forums),it enlarges long sentences, but keep short one very tiny. It's so annoying.
ElbowRocket
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My S2 is not ready
Marty Chinn
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Google Hangouts 2.0 is glorious! Finally Google might have its version of iMessage.
Never used an android device before, but this does look pretty good. Don't think it's enough to get me to switch, but that's mostly due to the investment I have in iOS currently and the fact that the reliance on iTunes and that doesn't really bother me. I'm sure I'd enjoy using it if I had one though. Maybe I'll pick up an android tablet like the Nexus 7 to get myself into the ecosystem first.
abstract alien
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Evo 4G LTE here. Damn, I'm screwed without a rom.
Because Apple gives clear timetables. Beta available same day, final version available to everyone on the same day.
Humans dislike uncertainty. Google's release strategy is a crappy idea and needs work.
I have to say, I'm distinctly unimpressed that those of us with existing devices are waiting even longer for bugfixes.
Really? I'm hearing the SMS integration is a lot like the Facebook app, where it's just a separate thread instead of integrated into one like iMessage.
Have you tested it with others? If you send a message to their phone number, does it send as a Hangout? Or does Hangouts only send to their email address? If you lose data or have data off, does it automatically switch to SMS instead of a Hangout?
Aarglefarg
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As someone who has never bought a Nexus device but planned make my next Android purchase one, this talk of 18-month support makes it much less appealing. Confidence you'll get Android updates is half the reason for getting a Nexus! Three years, maybe.
It's still better than with other Android devices, but still not good enough.
It's still better than with other Android devices, but still not good enough.
Shin Johnpv
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Phone is like 18 months old, but it's just forgotten about and it's fuck you owners of it. This is one of the big reasons I didn't want to get a smart phone. This is complete bullshit.
Opus Angelorum
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Did they mention anywhere when the Nexus 7 would be receiving 4.4?
It does suck knowing my phone only has six months left before Google abandons it.
No. Just "in the next few weeks" which could really mean bloody anything.
That is the number 1 reason why Chrome is completely unuseable. Piss me off that the ICS browser was so much better.
There are almost no difference between 4.1 and 4.4, you aint missing anything.
shikamaroooo
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Still waiting for Android 4.3 on my Xperia Z. Transparent bars are pretty cool, they've been on Sony phones for a few months.
Aarglefarg
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Well, that is true. I like to be on the cutting edge of operating systems, though. Trying out betas, following the news and all that. That's where the value comes into it for me.
Updated the OP to include what we know about the timetables for when KitKat will arrive on various devices (which is not a lot at this point, but I'll keep it updated).
I've also added download links to the latest versions of some of the core apps included in 4.4. This includes the new Hangouts with SMS/MMS support and the new launcher with the deeper Google Now integration.
I've also added download links to the latest versions of some of the core apps included in 4.4. This includes the new Hangouts with SMS/MMS support and the new launcher with the deeper Google Now integration.
Well, that is true. I like to be on the cutting edge of operating systems, though. Trying out betas, following the news and all that. That's where the value comes into it for me.
Just buy the new Nexus and sell the old one ever year. Your phone depreciate $150 max.
The Albatross
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So many awesome new additions in this update, many of which the mainstream blogs haven't even mentioned yet.
This release has more worthwhile new features than iOS 7, imho.
Definitely thinking about selling my iPad mini and getting a Nexus 7 right now. Any word on an updated Nexus 10 or should I just go with the 7?
This release has more worthwhile new features than iOS 7, imho.
Definitely thinking about selling my iPad mini and getting a Nexus 7 right now. Any word on an updated Nexus 10 or should I just go with the 7?
its much nicer than the facebook app
in the fb app you literally had a seperate contact and conversation for sms vs fb chat.
hangouts rolls the contact into 1 and you can toggle between the 2 conversations. like this:
Also, has anyone had any issues receiving MMS via the new Hangouts app? Someone tried sending me a few pics last night but they didn't go through (checked the messages app too and they weren't there). I have MightText installed- not sure if it's messing it up (it was displaying that an incoming MMS was arriving via my desktop but never got it).
Google Voice integration isn't available in this release.
I believe they're still separate right now, but fully expect Google to merge the two in the future (probably next year).
Root your phone. If it's not overly old and it's a more popular handset chances are someone will put out a 4.4 flash.
Or you can try installing someone of the APKs for the launcher, keyboard, etc packages to try to mimic the experience.
CharmingCharlie
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Rocking a Nexus 4 here, it usually takes me months to get the OTA update. In the past I have resorted to doing the old "clear google services" trick to get the updates. However from what I hear doing this trick apparently brings the harbinger of the apocalypse for tea (if you go by the official advice) I think this time I will try and do it manually.
SuicidalSteve
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I have just got a 680mb update on my galaxy s 4...could this be kit kat?
Realistically, I don't know how much I'd read into that statement, at the moment. The Galaxy Nexus has a few legitimate reasons why Google wouldn't deem it worth putting on the effort to upgrade it beyond it being more than 18-months old.
Absolutely not. Which carrier are you with? It's probably the update to 4.3.
SuicidalSteve
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with o2...got to say this is the largest update I have had since I got this phone when it launched.
EDIT yeah its 4.3 ahh
EDIT yeah its 4.3 ahh
ChainedMaster
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Is there a way to check SMS online through Hangouts for desktop? Tried to install hangouts on Chrome, worked fine at first but now I always get "Unable to connect to Google".
Nicktendo86
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Sorry if this has already been answered but I think developers have to code their apps to take advantage.
timcsavage
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Ditto. I'm eager to see the installer they are working on for the play store. We may have to wait for KitKat but hopefully CM will deliver.
I don't think so. Seems it separates both SMS and Hangouts conversations while also keeping those SMSs restricted to the device they originated from.
Well, 4.3 has already TRIM feature. Which is should prevent your device getting painfully slow after a while. Also 4.3 stock launcher is much snappier. This stuff is quite noticeable on my Nexus S. UI did not change much though.
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