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[shungokusatsu]

What you described is every map from Black Ops 2, so I don't really know what you think the difference is.

The maps are far worse due to the sheer amount of verticallity they have. The spawns are easily the worst to date in CoD. I can't tell you the number of times I've had someone spawn out of my ass, or I've spawned on top of an IED - both result in instant death. I can't fathom why they thought bringing back revenge spawns from MW3 would be a good idea.

 

[mangochutney]

So what is everyone's favourite Assault Rifle?

I had taken to the AK-12 but have no switched to the Remington R5, a great weapon and I'm guessing that's why they have given it such a small mag size. And who doesn't love that reload animation.

 

[Boost]

The maps are far worse due to the sheer amount of verticallity they have. The spawns are easily the worst to date in CoD. I can't tell you the number of times I've had someone spawn out of my ass, or I've spawned on top of an IED - both result in instant death. I can't fathom why they thought bringing back revenge spawns from MW3 would be a good idea.

I agree.

It's the worse thing since Martyrdom (IW) or the RC car (TA). If I kill somebody let ME work for it, let ME find him, let ME attempt to seek him out. Don't spawn me in back of him, just so he can spawn in back of me for the payback.

They need to rid revenge spawns / payback spawns ASAP. It's what kills multiplayer for most. The patch a few days ago did help, but the spawn system is still fucked.

 

[Boost]

So how does the multiplayer stack up to MW3/BLOPS1/BLOPS2?

COD 4 > MW2 > Ghost > MW 3 > Black Ops 2 > Black Ops > WAW

This one has a mixture of all the IW CODs rolled in one. Still needs work (a few patches and this could be GREAT).

 

[Razgriz-Specter]

So how does the multiplayer stack up to MW3/BLOPS1/BLOPS2?

COD4>>>MW2>Ghosts>>W@W=BO2>BO>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>MW3

 

[shungokusatsu]

This game is easily the closest to CoD4, just with a huge number of problems. It's mainly gun-on-gun gameplay - killstreaks outside of satcom UAV) are very, very rare. I'm a level 56 and in total I've only seen the opposing team get maybe 3 choppers and 2 juggernaut maniacs. Death comes so fast that it's completely nullified killstreaks.

Also, to be honest, the killstreaks are pretty damn boring in this game. Nothing exhilarating like the 24/7 air support days of MW2 with harriers, chopper gunners and AC-130s.

 

[sk3tch]

It has been refreshing to just play multiplayer without any issues (Xbox One - Ghosts) because in recent times it has been a real frustrating experience with other platforms and games (PC - Ghosts - stuttery mess even with CrossFired R9 290X - new 13.11 Beta9.4 drivers look to fix this; PS4 - BF4 - can't even get in a match and if you do, dropped or rubberbanded to death...absolute joke).

I usually only have like 20-30 minutes or so to play so it's just awesome to be able to actually do that. Kudos IW/Microsoft!

 

[boohowc]

Is there a perk that messes with the MAWs heat seeking capabilities? I shot at a player the other day and my missiles turned around and killed me. lol

Yup I just Don't get it,
everyone wants shit like hijacked and nuketown 24-7?

This mentality gets worse with every game
COD4 maps = perfect, MW2 = "these maps are garbage, I miss COD4" BO1 ="These maps suck, I miss MW2" MW3 = "fuckn maps suck, BO's were better"
BO2 =" god these maps suck as much as MW3" Ghosts= "These Fn maps.., BO2's were perfect"

I'm ok with most of the maps except for Siege. Seems to big for 6v6. Even worse when people start dropping from the map. Games on this map always end in a time out for me due to a combination of map being too large + camping/hiding when your team is ahead + players dropping from the game.

 

[Razgriz-Specter]

This game is easily the closest to CoD4, just with a huge number of problems. It's mainly gun-on-gun gameplay - killstreaks outside of satcom UAV) are very, very rare. I'm a level 56 and in total I've only seen the opposing team get maybe 3 choppers and 2 juggernaut maniacs. Death comes so fast that it's completely nullified killstreaks.

Also, to be honest, the killstreaks are pretty damn boring in this game. Nothing exhilarating like the 24/7 air support days of MW2 with harriers, chopper gunners and AC-130s.

Some killstreaks need alot of tuning.
Guard Dog is overpowered dang thing can kill a Maniac in 1 hit. It also takes 7+ bullets to kill even in hardcore and can survive grenades.

The helicopter sniper(coolest streak in the game) is so underpowered.
you can get 1shotted out of it(sometimes even before getting completely into the map) and you get a stupid sniper with only 4 shots per magazine, should at least switch it to a marksman rifle imo.
Not to mention the ridiculous flinching you do when the chopper is getting hit causes shots to not register on enemies.
Your pretty much screwed unless everyone is using only knives, handguns and smgs.

 

[VASPER]

It has been refreshing to just play multiplayer without any issues (Xbox One - Ghosts) because in recent times it has been a real frustrating experience with other platforms and games (PC - Ghosts - stuttery mess even with CrossFired R9 290X - new 13.11 Beta9.4 drivers look to fix this; PS4 - BF4 - can't even get in a match and if you do, dropped or rubberbanded to death...absolute joke).

I usually only have like 20-30 minutes or so to play so it's just awesome to be able to actually do that. Kudos IW/Microsoft!

No frame srops on the XB1 then?

 

[shungokusatsu]

Some killstreaks need alot of tuning.
Guard Dog is overpowered dang thing can kill a Maniac in 1 hit. It also takes 7+ bullets to kill even in hardcore and can survive grenades.

The helicopter sniper(coolest streak in the game) is so underpowered.
you can get 1shotted out of it(sometimes even before getting completely into the map) and you get a stupid sniper with only 4 shots per magazine, should at least switch it to a marksman rifle imo.
Not to mention the ridiculous flinching you do when the chopper is getting hit causes shots to not register on enemies.

ROFL. I have seen that twice (totally forgot) and both times I one shot killed the person using it. I couldn't believe it was that easy!

 

[shungokusatsu]

No frame srops on the XB1 then?

Runs at a lower resolution and has no drops, but lots of complaints from various threads about over-sharpening killing image quality if your TV is using 1080p. PS4 has no framerate drops, but instead framerate spikes.

 

[VASPER]

Runs at a lower resolution and has no drops, but lots of complaints from various threads about over-sharpening killing image quality if your TV is using 1080p. PS4 has no framerate drops, but instead framerate spikes.

I have the PS4 version and it sucks, i would rather have a lower res and better frame rate.

 

[Razgriz-Specter]

ROFL. I have seen that twice (totally forgot) and both times I one shot killed the person using it. I couldn't believe it was that easy!

Yup, I keep it on so I can call out locations to my team, its only good for about 1 kill really.
change the gun, maybe give double body armor, slight time extension(Its less than 30 seconds as is).
also the ability to control how high or low you are(some maps like Octane it needs to be lower, Sovereign much higher).

 

[CorrisD]

Can't say I like this looking through walls nonsense, and I do wish they have brought the Recon Drone killstreak back, I loved that little thing, flying about the map pointing out enemies for points. All the support killstreaks seem pretty shit to me in Ghosts, dare I say it, but I enjoyed the variety far better in MW3. Not a big fan of this points to unlock system, I preferred having less of a risk when trying out new weapons, but now I don't want to spend the points on something that seemed great in a private match to turn out to be not worth to price when playing during a proper match.

And as I mentioned before, forcing people using party chat to switch to game chat for infection makes the mode totally lame to me, I have no interest in talking to hearing other people, my fondest memories of MW3 were from Infection with friends.

 

[Mutagenic]

As someone who borrowed the PS4 version from a friend, installed the game via disc, and then decided to purchase the digital version, do I need to download the entire digital file rather than make use of what I installed from disc?

 

[Dominican Power]

Sovereign, Chasm, Flooded, Warhawk, Octane, Siege, and Stormfront are all trash. The rest are just very meh. Flank routes have flank routes and just a lot of useless space on the map. Way too many things obstructing your view and the enemies are so hard to spot. The quality of COD mp has been shit since MW2. MW2 was a cluster fuck but that game was fucking fun.

 

[pretty done]

What you described is every map from Black Ops 2, so I don't really know what you think the difference is.

The truth is that this mismash of three studios are very bad at map design and Treyarch has been in a slump since the first BO. MW3/BO2/Ghosts all have some really bad/frustrating map design so I don't have any shed of hope for the next game. I will say that I wasn't huge on BO1 when it first released but it grew on me over time. Decent gun balance and the maps were well enough (most of them) for multiple game modes.

 

[Brian Fellows]

It just seems the more they make their maps harder to camp the easier it becomes.

 

[Miggytronz]

How stable is this on PS4?

 

[Razgriz-Specter]

Sovereign, Chasm, Flooded, Warhawk, Octane, Siege, and Stormfront are all trash. The rest are just very meh. Flank routes have flank routes and just a lot of useless space on the map. Way too many things obstructing your view and the enemies are so hard to spot. The quality of COD mp has been shit since MW2. MW2 was a cluster fuck but that game was fucking fun.

Warhawk and Octane bad, what?

 

[Victrix]

Warhawk and Octane bad, what?

Seriously, Warhawk is a great map.

Octane is the 'which corner do I want to fight in' level, it's almost literally four corners with different combat zones in each.

 

[Epsilon-delta]

There are two hacked, endless Domination games going on right now, Sovereign & Siege on the 360. It looks like someone had used a KEM strike, but the map doesn't actually change and keeps the orange and black hue.

This hacking needs to be fixed. Everyone is running around with gold weapons and Prestige 10, while ruining the game for the rest of us.

Edit: add Prison Break to the hacked Domination lobbies

 

[SuperAndroid17]

Man all of these maps are fucking horrendous. What happened IW??

 

[Mentok]

The only maps I don't enjoy are stonehaven and soveraign. The rest are decent. I also like that you're seeing variety in the guns and perks that people use. In previous CoDs, there were main loadouts that almost everyone used. I agree that there is still some tweaking to do, but I'm enjoying this way more than the last CoD game I played (blops).

 

[j0hnny_385]

Is it just me or am I getting smacked 99% of the time from behind or out of line of sight in general? *sigh*
Holy shit at this map organization. Someone said it good: "Flank routes have flank routes". :/

 

[chronosic]

Question. If I get gold camo for a gun on one squad member, does that camo carry over to other squad members?

 

[SomeOneInaHat]

This game is the definition of over designed.

Can't believe I fell for this game after MW3

 

[FairXchange]

Edit: Nm.

 

[shungokusatsu]

As someone who borrowed the PS4 version from a friend, installed the game via disc, and then decided to purchase the digital version, do I need to download the entire digital file rather than make use of what I installed from disc?

According to the official PS4 FAQ, yes:

Q: If I rent a game disc, and then decide I want to buy it digitally, can I use the mandatory install to avoid downloading it and just activate my license?

A: No, in this example you would have to delete the disc install data and fully install the digital version of the game.

 

[Victrix]

Is it just me or am I getting smacked 99% of the time from behind or out of line of sight in general? *sigh*
Holy shit at this map organization. Someone said it good: "Flank routes have flank routes". :/

It takes awhile, but you'll eventually learn that you need to cover areas and not rooms, so to speak.

There are some maps and some modes where this is either difficult or impossible if you're playing solo, but there are equally a lot of maps and modes where you can.

Amplify, IMS, Sentry, IED, Motion Sensor, Sentry, all can help with guarding your back in certain areas. In a lot of places, simply dropping an IMS at one junction can block off an entire access route to you, leaving you free to patrol an area safely.

Playing aggressively is a lot harder. If you're going to do it, you need a full stealth setup. Dead Silence, Amplify, Off the Grid, a Silencer, even Incog helps. Basically run Specialist Quickdraw or Stalker, Focus, and Ready Up are all important for winning gun fights, which is why Specialist is recommended so you can get All The Perks.

You also need to be using a gun that has better ttk than most of the weapons you're going to run into. Miliseconds count in these encounters if you're planning on getting into regular face to face fights. The non SVU marksman rifles, shotguns, MSBS, FAD, ARX, Bizon, K7 are all good at that short range. The popular AK and Remington are actually the slowest of the ARs, and the Vector and MTAR are only the equal of the middle of the road ARs (Honey Badger/2010/805), they lose out to the faster killing weapons up close.

And finally you need damn good map knowledge and mode knowledge so you can get a feel for when you're going to get spawned on and how to move through the levels. Trying to run around the maps with an SMG solo without a team is the hardest way to play Ghosts by far. If you came from a pure run and gun BO2 mindset, you're in for some pain until you adjust.

Question. If I get gold camo for a gun on one squad member, does that camo carry over to other squad members?

All camos/reticles stay unlocked for everyone. I'm done with red dot/holo, almost done with VMR. Not looking forward to ACOG

 

[PalaceBrother]

Question. If I get gold camo for a gun on one squad member, does that camo carry over to other squad members?

How do you earn/apply camos? The interface is so jarring from blops2.....

 

[Metfanant]

How do you earn/apply camos? The interface is so jarring from blops2.....

yes, the multiplayer UI is APPALLINGLY bad in Ghosts...

 

[Just_myles]

Ok so I started playing this recently, and my summation is the maps are better and have not been this decent since MW2. However, they provide too much cover and the run and gun focus has been all but diminished due to these maps being somewhat smaller and the spawning being as bad as it is (yes, even for a COD game).

The maps were the only redeeming qualities of this one, other than that, I absolutely hate this game.

 

[Victrix]

How do you earn/apply camos? The interface is so jarring from blops2.....

yes, the multiplayer UI is APPALLINGLY bad in Ghosts...

Select gun -> select camo and view attendant challenges. Appalling!

 

[Freezie KO]

Not gonna lie... it did take me a while to figure out where the attachments for the secondary were. I felt like a moron.

 

[Moofers]

Clan wars are live! Anyone from GAF clan been on yet? I will hop on later tonight to check it out.

 

[Respawn]

I have the PS4 version and it sucks, i would rather have a lower res and better frame rate.

I smell something and it ain't roses.

 

[RunningRiot]

Clan wars are live! Anyone from GAF clan been on yet? I will hop on later tonight to check it out.

IISanderII and I won a few games earlier in TDM (PS4), looks like we have a solid 15 win lead on the other clans we matched up with there, but it takes 70 wins to take that node. Dom looks like it may be hard to take the lead on, but the other gametypes don't take nearly as many wins to capture, so we may have to branch out into other gametypes to win this first week

 

[Brian Fellows]

Clan wars are live! Anyone from GAF clan been on yet? I will hop on later tonight to check it out.

Can't see myself using it much considering how often the shitty app crashes on my phone.

 

[BruiserBear]

I have long held the opinion the ability to stay off the radar trumps every other perk in the game by a country mile. In MW1/2 you had to give up stopping power for this ability!

Both MW3 and now Ghosts make it so you can be completely invisible to radar without giving up much to do it.

So guess what the most popular gun in the game is? The Honey Badger! Now that the game has been out for a while, and people have finally reached a certain level, what's the most popular perk? Off the grid!

What a coincidence that Infinity Ward seems to be oblivious to. It was the same story with MW3. Someone at IW has a huge boner for this style of play, because they give this over powered ability in every game they make.

I was never one to say this in previous years, but Treyarch are now the A team for this franchise in my mind.

 

[BigShow36]

I was never one to say this in previous years, but Treyarch are now the A team for this franchise in my mind.

Treyarch has been the A team since MW2 was released.

 

[jackdoe]

I have officially given up on the PC version's multiplayer. The constant stutter has made it unplayable for me. After Black Ops 2 brought me back to CoD, Ghosts has taken me back out.

 

[BruiserBear]

Treyarch has been the A team since MW2 was released.

I disagree. BLOPS 2 was the first time I felt Treyarch had made a game on par with the best COD games.

 

[Dominican Power]

I disagree. BLOPS 2 was the first time I felt Treyarch had made a game on par with the best COD games.

I agree.

 

[trixx]

I'm surprised people found the multiplayer in black ops 2 to be bad. I will say though, this game and black ops 2 feel very different to me even though it's the same franchise(i'm a casual player).

 

[Brian Fellows]

I disagree. BLOPS 2 was the first time I felt Treyarch had made a game on par with the best COD games.

And I feel it was a massive step backwards from the original Black Ops in every way possible and was by far the worst game In the series. They took dumbing down the series to a whole new level.

 

[BruiserBear]

And I feel it was a massive step backwards from the original Black Ops in every way possible and was by far the worst game In the series. They took dumbing down the series to a whole new level.

How do you define "dumbing down"?

 

[NoMoreTrolls]

I have long held the opinion the ability to stay off the radar trumps every other perk in the game by a country mile. In MW1/2 you had to give up stopping power for this ability!

Both MW3 and now Ghosts make it so you can be completely invisible to radar without giving up much to do it.

So guess what the most popular gun in the game is? The Honey Badger! Now that the game has been out for a while, and people have finally reached a certain level, what's the most popular perk? Off the grid!

What a coincidence that Infinity Ward seems to be oblivious to. It was the same story with MW3. Someone at IW has a huge boner for this style of play, because they give this over powered ability in every game they make.

I was never one to say this in previous years, but Treyarch are now the A team for this franchise in my mind.

Hey, that's my class!

I use several different classes, but my best KDR is on my honey badger class. I average a 2.5 with it, while my MR-28 only gets me a 2.0. So I'm part of the problem. Maybe they should make all of the off the radar stuff four points?

 

[BruiserBear]

Hey, that's my class!

I use several different classes, but my best KDR is on my honey badger class. I average a 2.5 with it, while my MR-28 only gets me a 2.0. So I'm part of the problem. Maybe they should make all of the off the radar stuff four points?

Thanks for proving my point. This is why I despise this stuff. If one setup becomes the most popular, it's overpowered.

If I were in charge the ability to be off the radar would work just like it did in BLOPS 2. If you stop moving, you're visible.