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Can Ratchet and Clank: Rift Apart on PC match - and exceed - the PS5 experience?
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Zathalus
Member
Yeah, it's not on the level of The Last of Us, but it does have a number of performance related issues so drawing any conclusions from that seems silly.
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ToTTenTranz
Banned
That or crashes:
The only system that could somehow use a HDD was John Linneman's due to 64GB RAM for caching but even that one has stuttering problems.
And apparently Battaglia's system with a 3500MB/s PCIe 3.0 NVMe got hit with low mipmap textures while loading and suffered from low GPU/CPU utilization, i.e. they'd get stuck waiting for the data to come from storage.
In the end, this was just a fail on Nixxes' published PC specs sheet. They should never have included HDDs (or even SATA SSDs), and whomever tries to play the game with those is going to get a pretty bad gaming experience.
I played the PS5 version when it came out and I can't fathom playing this game with seconds-long waiting times every time we hit a portal. Sometimes we need to switch sides like 3 times in the span of 5 seconds.
Pedro Motta
Member
Don't be a moron, that equals the specs of the PS4 (maybe even better?), which they said it wouldn't work properly. And it doesn't. Just stop it, go home.
Skifi28
Member
Exactly, all PC gamers that are the least bit serious about their hobby have an SSD which makes it even weirder why this game in particular had to be the holy grail of HDDs being absolutely fine for gaming even though we all knew they aren't. I'm glad it's behind us and we can finally move on.
While we're at it, people please don't game on dualcore CPUs.
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3liteDragon
Member
This is what happens when you pretend to know more than the guy who designed the fucking console architecture.
TxKnight7
Member
Maybe because in spiderman the textures size/quality is higher than the ps5 versionexact same problem as with spiderman. in spiderman that game also didnt load proper textures in time in real time cutscenes
directstorage is a hoax and a joke
and need more time?
DF
"The biggest upgrade of all? Hardware-accelerated ray tracing support. I'm happy to see a range of granular settings here, but very high exceeds the high setting typically used by PS5. Building geometry boiled down into flat textures on consoles are fully modelled on PC, texture quality is on an altogether different level quality, while the amount of associated world detail - and shadows - also get fully reflected, sometimes where PS5 has no reflections at all. Nixxes also offers PC users the chance to push out draw distance on objects/crowds/traffic beyond the console standard - and that ties into the level of detail/crowd/traffic settings I've already discussed. Just remember that the more you push RT, the higher the load on both GPU and CPU.
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Pedro Motta
Member
Those images are from RT reflections, not the actual gameplay.Maybe because in spiderman the textures size/quality is higher than the ps5 version
and need more time?
"The biggest upgrade of all? Hardware-accelerated ray tracing support. I'm happy to see a range of granular settings here, but very high exceeds the high setting typically used by PS5. Building geometry boiled down into flat textures on consoles are fully modelled on PC, texture quality is on an altogether different level quality, while the amount of associated world detail - and shadows - also get fully reflected, sometimes where PS5 has no reflections at all. Nixxes also offers PC users the chance to push out draw distance on objects/crowds/traffic beyond the console standard - and that ties into the level of detail/crowd/traffic settings I've already discussed. Just remember that the more you push RT, the higher the load on both GPU and CPU.
akaFullmetal
Member
Definitely couldn't of been run on the PS4 HDD, which Sony would of had to guarantee if it was released on PS4. Could you use maybe a faster HDD drive and run it at 720p with lower settings? Yes but not a great experience with freezing, frame drops, crashing.
So it can't run on last gen systems due to HDD is definitely true.
So it can't run on last gen systems due to HDD is definitely true.
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According to Alex they never load in, no matter how long you wait.
FrankWza
Member
People were embarrassing themselves for over a year, across multiple threads. They were reading....
64bitmodels
Reverse groomer.
who even is?!?! you probably mean 4 core
Midn1ght
Member
Yeah, I've been watching a little more and something's definitely up with textures quality, I don't know if it's because Alex is playing with DLSS but even after staying still for like 10 seconds, they look softer than on PS5. Look at the banner, the floor and even the green dome a little further. Not good.
Gaiff
SBI’s Resident Gaslighter
Not sure if it's the same but I've had one instance now where I had to reload for the textures to load. I waited 2 minutes and they never loaded.
rodrigolfp
Haptic Gamepads 4 Life
No one said the opposite. I just want to know how it will perform.
Thaedolus
Member
Probably bugged then.
S0ULZB0URNE
Member
That isn't a PS5 game at heart like this.Maybe because in spiderman the textures size/quality is higher than the ps5 version
and need more time?
"The biggest upgrade of all? Hardware-accelerated ray tracing support. I'm happy to see a range of granular settings here, but very high exceeds the high setting typically used by PS5. Building geometry boiled down into flat textures on consoles are fully modelled on PC, texture quality is on an altogether different level quality, while the amount of associated world detail - and shadows - also get fully reflected, sometimes where PS5 has no reflections at all. Nixxes also offers PC users the chance to push out draw distance on objects/crowds/traffic beyond the console standard - and that ties into the level of detail/crowd/traffic settings I've already discussed. Just remember that the more you push RT, the higher the load on both GPU and CPU.
SolidQ
Member
he need without DLSS test. There is some games where DLSS even remove textures
Rocco Schiavone
Member
40fps mode sucks on OLED.
Skifi28
Member
Hey, If somebody still games on an HDD, they could very well be on a dualcore. Maybe windows vista too
.Imagine them trying to get this game, as it looks today, to run on the PS4.
At best you might have to raise the storage requirement on a console game. And download more ram.
Good luck to that.
Maybe you missed all the hard drive talk when the PC specs were revealed.
Gaiff
SBI’s Resident Gaslighter
I didn't. I just didn't give a shit and still don't. Now half the thread has been hijacked by this HDD nonsense.
Zathalus
Member
The textures not loading in obviously have got nothing to do with the SSD or DirectStorage. It's not delayed loading, they simply never load the correct textures in the first place, no matter how long you wait.
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
But it's about owning the braaaaands™, maaaaan! Failed, but watcha gonna do.
It's also a self own for select warriors pushing the HDD retard crusade since they all run SSDs in the gaming PC's, and if not, then you need to GTFO "core gamer" or their favorite box also has a Velocity Architecture™ SSD setup. It's nothing but pure insecure brand war mental gymnastics.
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S0ULZB0URNE
Member
It's mentioned above and with 64gb.
Rentahamster
Rodent Whores
What's the install size, BTW? I could look it up but I'm lazy lol.
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
75GB
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SlimySnake
Flashless at the Golden Globes
Just started watching it and these morons are using Performance RT mode to compare against PC RT MAX settings. I really fucking hope they have a valid reason for this because this is borderline retarded and why everyone hates their guts.
S0ULZB0URNE
Member
Again it's not a actual PS5 game.
It was built around the PS4 architecture.
64bitmodels
Reverse groomer.
Returnal was a PS5 game at heart and it ran (and looked) better on PC than on PS5.
The port is just a bit bugged at the moment. A couple patches and hopefully all the texture shit will be gone.
Gaiff
SBI’s Resident Gaslighter
The game has IGTI on PC. I'll try it out later to see how it stacks up compared to DLSS.
Zathalus
Member
I'm referring to Ratchet & Clank. Low resolution textures in the middle of a level don't appear to be loading related.
Mr Moose
Member
There's something not right with Returnal on PS5, a similar PC card shits on PS5 IQ.
Holammer
Member
Played the extended 40m tutorial bit to the point where Clank is separated from Ratchet.
My old 1080 managed the game admiringly. Native 1440p/60 at medium settings with stable framerate. Unlocking (or setting to 240) gives me 67-70fps. So it's very similar to Sackboy performance wise.
Nixxes should add a 40fps mode, it would give me plenty of overhead to crank it up to high and beyond.
My old 1080 managed the game admiringly. Native 1440p/60 at medium settings with stable framerate. Unlocking (or setting to 240) gives me 67-70fps. So it's very similar to Sackboy performance wise.
Nixxes should add a 40fps mode, it would give me plenty of overhead to crank it up to high and beyond.
Puscifer
Member
Color me shocked, games aren't even being optimized for Gen 1 Sata SSDs with a consistent 2-300 Mbps read and write speed and you think suddenly they're going to instantly start requiring 3-7000GBPS???? Lmfaooooo"The end result is a scalable system that works across a range of PC set-ups and can even operate on a hard drive too - albeit with notable pauses on the portal jumps."
Snake29
RSI Employee of the Year
"The end result is a scalable system that works across a range of PC set-ups and can even operate on a hard drive too - albeit with notable pauses on the portal jumps."
Start serving the crows boys. Some people are gonna eat a lot of them.
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ChiefDada
Gold Member
Of course it can. Loading isn't confined to transition between menu and in-game, level 1 to level 2, etc. That's why the i/o was always going to be a big deal.
Gaiff
SBI’s Resident Gaslighter
Chill out
S0ULZB0URNE
Member
We keep trying to mention other games cause we have no point.
To stay on point and answer the question in the title of this thread....
No the PC doesn't exceed the PS5 experience and in fact comes up short in some cases.
rodrigolfp
Haptic Gamepads 4 Life
He said he has a system with 64GB, not how much RAM the game uses.
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Topher
Gold Member
Huh? I didn't say anything like that.
Physiognomonics
Member
Returnal was always a PC game running on PS5 (UE4 game).
Zathalus
Member
Apart from the fact that the correct textures never actually load, no matter how long you wait.
S0ULZB0URNE
Member
We don't know why it's like that.
Might of added some hitches to load them on top of everything else.
Gaiff
SBI’s Resident Gaslighter
Yeah, at 8GB of RAM, the system was always pagefiling the slow-ass HDD which was the main cause of the stutters. 16GB+ should be fine.