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[NeonZ]

The game that was given as a example is
http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/513EDCRCX3L.jpg
which added a handful of characters and stages to the original Sengoku Musou.

Thinking about it, Capcom uses this pattern all the time:
Street Fighter 4 -> Super -> AE -> Ultra
Monster Hunter 4 -> 4G

It's not really the same thing though. That's Samurai Warriors XL. With the game by itself, you just have the new content. You need to have the original Samurai Warriors and XL to get the original content + the new content. The first XL game came out in 2002 itself too. I wonder when Capcom's patent got approved?

I don't remember Capcom ever releasing any games that work like that, although I haven't played their Basara expansions, so I don't know if they followed that format.

 

[bigbaldwolf86]

This is some of the dumbest shit I've heard. Capcom are that strapped for cash that they want to sue for stuff like rumbling when an enemy is close and for 12 year old games? Just stop it. It''s ridiculous.

 

[AndyMoogle]

REreremake sounds a bit like a cash-grab to me tbh for some reason. They desperate. Street Fighter content imminent

I hope they are desperate enough to port Dragon's Dogma to PC, Xbox One and PS4.

 

[The Cartographer]

Someone should make a ''Capcom 2006 - 2014 Where did everything go wrong?'' pic.

 

[PuppetMaster]

Wow Crapcom, just wow. Having to resort to patent trolling to make money is a serious red flag!

 

[Garou]

It's not really the same thing though. That's Samurai Warriors XL. With the game by itself, you just have the new content. You need to have the original Samurai Warriors and XL to get the original content + the new content. The first XL game came out in 2002 itself too. I wonder when Capcom's patent got approved?

I don't remember Capcom ever releasing any games that work like that, although I haven't played their Basara expansions, so I don't know if they followed that format.

You are right, I just checked and the game is standalone and expansion in one. Did it just use the savegame of the previous one or did you have to swap discs?

 

[cw_sasuke]

Wow, Capcom really needs the money....i thought the respect level between the bigger established Japanese publishers, this is kinda surprising.

 

[Ushojax]

This is what Capcom are reduced to now. Patent trolling.

 

[Sayad]

Thinking about it, Capcom uses this pattern all the time:
Street Fighter 4 -> Super -> AE -> Ultra
Monster Hunter 4 -> 4G

Though Capcom is the one who does this the most, this have been in the industry long before they filed the patent for it in 2002! Do they really have a case here?

 

[nkarafo]

Crapcom doing crappy things.

What else is new.

 

[crinale]

Lol Capcom is sueing Fatal Frame too for vibration patent or something.

 

[Infernal Monkey]

I hope Capcom loses this. What a shitty company.

 

[Jucksalbe]

lol, they rip off Musou games with their Sengoku Basara series and then go ahead and sue those games for patent infringement. That's pretty...bold.

 

[BajiBoxer]

Dammit Capcom... :-:::

 

[Lord Ghirahim]

Nasty.

 

[Lastgengamer]

Really Capcom? If this is actually successful what next, will there be lawsuits over game concepts and simpler mechanics like jumping and level up systems.

 

[Porcile]

Seems like a paltry amount of money.

 

[Aβydoς]

Pathetic.

 

[Recall]

Capcom is arguing that Koei infringed in 49 titles (e.g. Sengoku Musou Moushouden, PS2 (2004)) a patent by Capcom filed in 2002 about the function of adding new characters and scenarios to a game...

Edit: To be clear, the patent is for "Combining software to add the content", so things like expansion discs I would assume, after all the patent is from 2002.

The game industry is fucking dumb and so counter productive.

 

[Silky]

SNKP is using Square Enix...now Capcom is suing Koei....

They must be making CvS3 right

 

[Azure Dream]

Seems like a paltry amount of money.

And an ugly precedent.

 

[Pudge]

"Remember when Capcom used to be a video game company?"

-Jeff Gerstmann, 2014

 

[fvng]

Pathetic

 

[Aostia]

shameful...and they are also going to win, obviously

http://it.ign.com/sm/ign_it/screens...ght-trilogy-hd-e-quasi-gratis-su-ios_qrdp.jpg

 

[Samurai_Heart]

Da fuq... Capcom's a patent troll =S

 

[Solaire of Astora]

That's like $12 right?

Sigh... There's always one...

 

[Ryuuga]

How does one prove that their sales were boosted on the backs of these groundbreaking patents?

 

[AcademicSaucer]

Seems like a shifty case, software implementations...Capcom you make me weep, you have slid so far down



sorry Capcom, a buzz for alerting when an enemy is close isn't something you should own...

They should sue Nintendo , they had that function in NintendoLand

 

[AAK]

Are they going to sue Aksys and Atlus as well?

Persona 4 --> Persona 4 Golden
Persona 4 Arena --> Persona 4 Ultimax
Blazblue --> Continuum Shift --> Extend --> Chrono Phantasma

 

[10k]

Capcom: wait what, did they just release DLC for their game? That is our thing! Sue those bastards! Haha they didn't even do it right, they actually me made new content when your supposed to take chunks of the main game and lock it away on the disc. Losers.

 

[pancakesandsex]

You are right, I just checked and the game is standalone and expansion in one. Did it just use the savegame of the previous one or did you have to swap discs?

XL games work like this:

They boot alone as a separate game, play all the expansion content and modes alone, and you can import save data from the old game to bring in your character data from the original.

You can perform what they call a "mixjoy" and pop in the original disc for a second to temporarily unlock the levels and story modes from the original game, but from within the framework of the expansion (so new characters and tweaks are present)

 

[Beren the Empty-Handed]

Oooh, this should end well.

 

[Black Republican]

if this is how they fund Powerstone 3 im all for it

 

[Shai-Tan]

I refuse to buy anything from Capcom in the future

 

[Ryuuga]

if this is how they fund Powerstone 3 im all for it

ios/android exclusive.

 

[Kysen]

I saw a comment on a JP blog that basically said that JP devs are turning on each other while the west continues making progress. Capcom truly have hit the bottom of the barrel with this.

 

[NewEraBlood]

I almost would think that trying to sue a small company for a small amount would only be logical if you were trying to set a precedent to later sue large companies for large amounts.

 

[Kresnik258]

I wonder how much of a case they have here.

Joking aside, most things they do lately seem like moves to "keep the ball rolling" rather than progress anything.

Street Fighter IV has been re-released more times than it really deserves to have been.
Monster Hunter Tri was ported more than it needed to be.
Monster Hunter 4 is now beginning down the road of upgraded releases.
Dead Rising 3 was co(?)-funded by Microsoft rather than being a new game.
Deep Down co(?)-funded by Sony
Lost Planet farmed out to what I can only assume was a cheap overseas contractor
Breath of Fire mobile spin-off named as BoF VI to cash in on sales, I assume.

Aside from DMC being an attempt to rebirth the franchise, they really aren't investing lately, and it does strike me as a company in lots of trouble.

edit: Oh, and Dragon's Dogma seems to have been a blip rather than a new direction in terms of console IP's, sadly.

 

[BoilersFan23]

Let's see if KT counter sues for Capcom making Sengoku Basara after Sengoku Musou was out......

Haha, j/k

I cannot believe why Capcom decides to bring this up now and not before. There are so many other companies that do this as well. They must really be needing money now.

 

[Kresnik258]

Are they going to sue Aksys and Atlus as well?

Persona 4 --> Persona 4 Golden
Persona 4 Arena --> Persona 4 Ultimax
Blazblue --> Continuum Shift --> Extend --> Chrono Phantasma

Really pedantic thing to pick up on, but Aksys don't develop Blazblue, they just localize them. Arc System Works are the developers.

And I'd imagine they could well be going after them since they're a fellow Japanese company.

 

[sixteen-bit]

I refuse to buy anything from Capcom in the future

pretty easy self-imposed restriction to follow

 

[KojiKnight]

I refuse to buy anything from Capcom in the future

I've been doing this since MML3 got canceled, I made a singular exception for Ace Attorney 5 because I did want to reward Capcom for it's efforts in continues localization for that series, but immediately after that it went back to not giving them a dime.

3 years and counting.

 

[Samurai_Heart]

So if I got this correct this is a lawsuit for Koei's mixjoy function, has Capcom even used this function in any of their games =S?

 

[duckroll]

This is fucking unbelievable. What the fuck is Capcom even doing? Are they seriously trying to make a cash grab on a patents defining expansion re-releases and... rumble alert? Really? I guess this was a natural evolution (devolution?) for a company who seems unable to release or announce new games for their audiences. How disappointing.

 

[piratepwnsninja]

Not sure what is different with patent law in Japan, but in the US, you technically can't patent a mechanic like the rumble when an enemy is nearby thing. They'd have a hard time in the US with the other part, too, as they waited a very long time to do anything.

 

[Takao]

Is it their intent to sue half of the Japanese publishers and all of the western ones?

 

[Alrus]

So won't the patent court ask them why they didn't sue them back in 2003?

 

[Trike]

I've been doing this since MML3 got canceled, I made a singular exception for Ace Attorney 5 because I did want to reward Capcom for it's efforts in continues localization for that series, but immediately after that it went back to not giving them a dime.

3 years and counting.

Man, it must be tough not buying gems like Resident Evil 6, Lost Planet 3, and Smurfette's Magic Match.

 

[synce]

Not sure who this is more embarassing for, Koei or Capcom

 

[massoluk]

pretty easy self-imposed restriction to follow

If it wasn't for Ave Attorney, this would be so easy for me