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Carol Danvers Will Have a New Origin for the Captain Marvel Movie
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Thats the person currently with the captain marvel title
echoshifting
Banned
She is featured in the Shattered Now promo art.
This movie doesn't come out for two and a half years, if they're going to do something like that it won't be for awhile yet. With Tony, they literally erased and rebooted his brain
Gordon Shumway
Banned
Shame she isn't Asian..
We'll get there one of these days with you, Slayven.
Until then you can call me DR. Toa TAK. I charge by the hour.
Can you cure people that like Gambit?
SolicitorPirate
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Reading about Captain Marvel on GAF is weird. People act like she's widely hated, but everything I hear about her outside is widely positive. Hell, the fact I've even heard of her is something given my apathy towards comic books.
echoshifting
Banned
PAD could do well with him
Eeeeeeeehnnhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhokay nevermind
Look dude. Brie Larson is a superhero now. It'll rock.
You can quote me and in 3 years you will find me to be right.
Frozenprince
Banned
I'm still stunned that we're getting a $150M Gambit solo movie.
Like what.
Like what.
I remember thinking that little series she had after Civil War where they gave her a team and a mini-helicarrier wasn't terrible, but other than that, eh.
I don't DISlike the character, but there's... just nothing.
Like, there aren't really any great Carol Danvers stories out there like you see with these other characters.
I'm not disappointed when she shows up or anything, and her power set is nice. (I like the energy absorption/redirection addition to the standard flight/super strength stuff.)
Frozenprince
Banned
I feel the same way about Wonder Woman, except she's been around longer.
She's never had a definitive run. Which is weird to me.
Idk I think Carol would work better if they did Mar-Vell first then passed the torch as a kind of trial run on torch passing in the MCU. But I can see why they didn't go that route, it's a sausage fest as is.
Zeus Molecules
illegal immigrants are stealing our air
That actually makes a lot of sense......
Ugh do not remind me. Cyborg is another character that whose push is completely unwarranted.
At least Marvel eventually managed to make Carol interesting. Cyborg is still sort of a wreck.
I don't think I'd agree with that. For Wonder Woman you can definitely point to the Hiketeia, and the Perez and Rucka runs at the very least. For Carol there's just... nothing. The story that you think about most for Carol is the one everybody is ashamed of.
Gordon Shumway
Banned
LMAO
So Cyborg kind of made sense back before the reboot, when there was a ton of Titans history to draw from. Back when Batman was pushing for him to be on the League and such. (Remember that issue where Batman, Superman, and Wonder Woman were trying to put the League back together and figure out a roster?) It was like, "he's done good work, let's bring him up."
But as a core member of the League as it just starts out? No.
Carol's best moment was being a powerup for Rogue
Frozenprince
Banned
For my boy J'onn J'onzz.
pseudocaesar
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Is this worth reading?
I think that was part of Claremont's long plan to restore Danvers to respectability.
ElBoxyBrown
Banned
Only if you can find humor in how badly written it is
Now it will be getting hit by a chair.
Well you going to get fucked up going against Ms.America...
Unspeakable Evil
Member
Let's start a bet that Marvel will turn Monica into Carol's black best friend!
This is very funny out of context.Now it will be getting hit by a chair.
I'd be completely okay with this.
sssstententen
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I personally prefer the Ms. Marvel costume but its been awhile.
Hope they make her interesting. Brie can do work given the right material
Hope they make her interesting. Brie can do work given the right material
Now it will be getting hit by a chair.
Shit was issue was this? Did I miss an issue of The Ultimates?
and make genis and phyla
True. So his best uses were dying and making better characters.
sans dying, thats the same beat for carol, right?
hodayathink
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Even ignoring the Hulk movie rights thing (because She-Hulk in inexorably tied to the the Hulk in her origin), she's actually a hero that makes just as much, if not more sense, storywise, as a series rather than a movie. The biggest reason she doesn't work as a TV show right now is that the budget to Ruffalo her would be more than a TV show could handle.
Valkerionseven
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God this is what its like to see your own posts huh... I agree though, literally this person has the same opinion as me lol.
Frozenprince
Banned
Carol is a drunk, too. Not like Tony, who's a high functioning alcoholic, Carol is a straight up drunk.
And that'll be totally and utterly ignored for this, which is a shame because it's the only part of her character that actually kinda makes her relatable past the 4000000 other supes who can fly and punch stuff real good.
And that'll be totally and utterly ignored for this, which is a shame because it's the only part of her character that actually kinda makes her relatable past the 4000000 other supes who can fly and punch stuff real good.
Frozenprince
Banned
But what makes her a great character? What is her distinction that makes her one from the 9 billion other characters with her power set and lack of definitive runs?
She's painfully generic and has never been popular (I don't think she's ever cracked a top-20 before) and yet she keeps getting pushed. Now she's getting pushed into the MCU.
I think people are jumping to conclusions that if they are changing one thing they are changing it all and then rolling it back into the comics like with Tony Stark.
Really it's just super simple. Mar-Vell isn't a character in the cinematic universe. He was integral to Danvers' origin story. It'd be nuts to introduce him just to give her powers.
Primethius
Banned
So glad. Carol in CWII is insufferable.
I welcome the comics to get rid of her and replace her with the movie version.
I welcome the comics to get rid of her and replace her with the movie version.
Well she's obviously built up a very loyal core fanbase, even if the series have never taken off. There's obviously something there. Again I think they haven't really packaged her adventures right. de Connick got the character right but never came up with / was allowed to write the right stories, have her fight interesting villains, etc.
I don't think she's generic. I alluded to the qualities of her character portrayal above. The political idealist who's naive about how much her powers can do on their own (ie she has lofty ideas about a good society, a set of political values, but thinks she can simply force political change on her own) is unique. There's potential to further explore the politics of the universe there. Her drunkard behaviour mixed with her warm homebody-ish relationship with her neighbours also stands out among heroes of her power.
NotTheGuyYouKill
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I've said it before, but they should make her story a redemption/rise story.
Starts out with her as an ace Air Force pilot, but a hot mess in her personal life. Drinking too much, life in shambles, and erratic. Somewhat damaged. Gets a talk from Rhodey or somebody on responsibility and heroism at her worst moment. Comes into contact with Kree tech or something, gets transported from earth into the cosmos. Gains her powers and rebuilds herself mentally and emotionally. Comes back and stomps the big bad into the ground. You can change that order up a bit, maybe she gets the powers first, goes nuts and uncontrolled with them, and begins to zen out and take control of her powers and life bit-by-bit.
But she's the perfect character to link Earth (connections to Rhodey, Cap, and Tony, all involved in military and with each other and shit), and the Cosmos (comes across the Guardians or Thor or somebody.)
It'd make for a compelling and more commercially palatable film as its about someone becoming better, Rocky-esque become the best version of yourself, become a winner schtick, go-the-mile.
Starts out with her as an ace Air Force pilot, but a hot mess in her personal life. Drinking too much, life in shambles, and erratic. Somewhat damaged. Gets a talk from Rhodey or somebody on responsibility and heroism at her worst moment. Comes into contact with Kree tech or something, gets transported from earth into the cosmos. Gains her powers and rebuilds herself mentally and emotionally. Comes back and stomps the big bad into the ground. You can change that order up a bit, maybe she gets the powers first, goes nuts and uncontrolled with them, and begins to zen out and take control of her powers and life bit-by-bit.
But she's the perfect character to link Earth (connections to Rhodey, Cap, and Tony, all involved in military and with each other and shit), and the Cosmos (comes across the Guardians or Thor or somebody.)
It'd make for a compelling and more commercially palatable film as its about someone becoming better, Rocky-esque become the best version of yourself, become a winner schtick, go-the-mile.
Secret Fawful
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Who are the ones besides Monica?
Sounds like the Green Lantern movie.
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