Jonnyboy117 said:
If I remember right (it's been a good three years since I played the PSP Homebrew port): Focus on ONE only. After you take that one out, you'll have a MUCH EASIER time to take the last one out.
The bubbler also helps, IIRC.
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Cave Story for WiiWare: (Finally) The Official Thread
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If I remember right (it's been a good three years since I played the PSP Homebrew port): Focus on ONE only. After you take that one out, you'll have a MUCH EASIER time to take the last one out.
The bubbler also helps, IIRC.
Jonnyboy117
Member
Don't know what the bubbler is, but your recommendation helped me finally win. I used the rockets, by the way.
Lumpy Onion
Member
I played about an hour of this today, and I must say that I am very impressed. Having never played the original, this is a fresh new game for me. The graphics are simple, yet really quite nice. It has an attractive sharpness and style to it. And it controls like a charm.
I don't think I have been this impressed by a side-scroller in a while. Its certainly doing more for me than the Blaster Master remake that came out recently. As someone who loves Metroid, Blaster Master, and Monster World I am in 2D sidescroller/rpg heaven now.
I don't think I have been this impressed by a side-scroller in a while. Its certainly doing more for me than the Blaster Master remake that came out recently. As someone who loves Metroid, Blaster Master, and Monster World I am in 2D sidescroller/rpg heaven now.
JacksUsername
Member
Just picked this up and also gifted it to a friend. I played the PC game a bit last year, but I don't recall getting too far, so I'm really looking forward to giving the game the attention it deserves this time around.
Quick question for anyone who's gotten the "bad ending" on the Wii version, because I don't know if there's any autosaves or anything.
This is my first playthrough of the game but I'd like to go for a good ending because I don't know how long it'll be til I play through it a second time.
If I escape with Kazuma, can I watch the bad ending, then reset and choose not to go with him? Or do I need to say No while I have the chance?
Hatchet Man
Member
BooJoh said:
You can watch the bad ending and reset.
thestopsign
Member
BooJoh said:
I'm not there in the Wii version, but in the PC version you could just save in the room before, watch the ending, then load up from where you saved. If you want to get the actual "good" ending, you might want to read a guide (though you are already past a few of the parts where you are required to do stuff, mostly involving Curly).
TheUnknownForce
Member
VideoMan said:
So what it sounds like here is that the guy gave Nicalis the music to work with and then whoever compiled it all did a shoddy job, thereby killing the music's integrity.
The game apparently also has freeze glitches in the Outer Wall and map problems.
I have a feeling Nintendo's QA had a fun time with this game, now >,<
Apparently they are going to fix stuff for Europe...but...what about us US people?
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Let me say Nicalis is lucky Cave Story is a great game on its own right. NightSky will be awesome because of Nifflas, and La-Mulana will rock because of Nigoro.
I'm curious if Nicalis will produce a product that is not headed by another indie group. Could they?
The Hermit
Member
VideoMan said:
That explains a lot of things...
Quite sad though
Princess Skittles
Prince's's 'Skittle's
Bah, I knew the game had sound issues the minute I launched it. So I checked out that Tiny Cartridge article and the forum it linked to just to get a little more information on the whole thing. Wow, just wow is all I can say. Internet nerds and their little meme obsessions are creepy as fuck.
Seconded. Especially after reading that forum. *shudders*Lijik said:
Here's hoping for that patch, because the new music seems atrocious to me for the time being. I did think it seemed strange that the drums and melody for the first cave music seemed to be running at two very different tempos, it sounds like it may have fallen victim to these issues as well.
Like I said before, everything about Cave Story that Pixel still handled (control, the new character sprites, etc) are still great, but Nicalis' extra trappings have fallen way short. Color me skeptical that they'll get their act together in time for NightSky, which would be a shame if that game falls short too.
Like I said before, everything about Cave Story that Pixel still handled (control, the new character sprites, etc) are still great, but Nicalis' extra trappings have fallen way short. Color me skeptical that they'll get their act together in time for NightSky, which would be a shame if that game falls short too.
EmCeeGramr
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A patch for various things would be good (translation typos, sound levels and looping, etc.).
Might be a while though; I think I read somewhere patches for WiiWare games mean that the developer has to go through the resubmission process and in the meantime the royalties from the game might be put on hold if there haven't been a certain number of downloads yet.
Might be a while though; I think I read somewhere patches for WiiWare games mean that the developer has to go through the resubmission process and in the meantime the royalties from the game might be put on hold if there haven't been a certain number of downloads yet.
Princess Skittles
Prince's's 'Skittle's
I really don't get it.
I mean, I'm not hardcore nut or anything but three hours of playing and I've noted various minor little issues (map is broken in Sand Zone, no maps show your position). Did nobody test this thing out in the two plus years they've been hammering it out?
I mean, I'm not hardcore nut or anything but three hours of playing and I've noted various minor little issues (map is broken in Sand Zone, no maps show your position). Did nobody test this thing out in the two plus years they've been hammering it out?
PepsimanVsJoe
Member
Hmm guess it's a good thing I backed out at the last minute.
Already waited two years right? What's wrong with waiting some more? *shrug*
Already waited two years right? What's wrong with waiting some more? *shrug*
Princess Skittles
Prince's's 'Skittle's
Just get the Wii version. It still PLAYS perfectly. If you turn the sound effects down (anywhere from 1/2 to 3/4) and use the original music you alleviate most of the glaring issues present. The original tracks still have some balance/looping issues but it's still very minor, when all is said and done. Nothing wrong is game-breaking or major in any way, they're just minor nuances that most other developers would have ironed out with a single round of play-testing.
cooljeanius
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That was one of the places where you actually needed it, too...Princess Skittles said:
Princess Skittles
Prince's's 'Skittle's
They're talking about releasing an update to fix the music and sound issues.upandaway said:
If they pull it off and I don't see any other issues, I'd buy it, but my friend just now informed me that I can use my Wiimote on my computer, so for now I'll finally play Cave Story how I was meant to play it from the start. Now I'm actually feeling good about playing the game, how about that.Princess Skittles said:
Azure Dream
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upandaway said:
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=387333
Gives you a great retro controller for the 360 and PC both.
Edit: Actually, I'm not sure how to get it to work with XBCD, so it only shows the d-pad as a POV hat. Anyone know how to change this?
ChoklitReign
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If they do this I'll buy it for the Wii in a heartbeat. It's the only thing holding me back. I want the old tunes in good quality, damn it.Princess Skittles said:
PunjabiPlaya
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I just got my Wii back today after finally deciding to get it fixed, and my first order of business was to buy Cave Story. I've only played it for maybe 30 minutes, but I've been loving every minute of it.
nincompoop
Banned
Wow, the
are pretty much impossible if you don't have the
. I might as well just give up and start a new game. Of course, it doesn't help that I can't see the damn floor. Also the music stopping every time you enter a new screen is really annoying, they need to get that patched right away.
Sacred Grounds
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Femmeworth
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No and yes.GhostSeed said:
thestopsign
Member
Gattsu25 said:
I played through the game multiple times with a keyboard and I did just fine. I've never seen the big difference between game pads and keyboards though, so I might just be crazy.
TheUnknownForce
Member
Got up to Labyrinth thus far. I am now further than I've ever been on the game.
If you make sound effects 1/3 and classic music on with master volume louder, it definitely works. The looping is not entirely noticeable. I just hope we get a music fix soon (I want to hear the new music as it was meant to be).
Anyways, I've gotten used to the roughness around the edges. It's too awesome a game to have annoyances toward.
If you make sound effects 1/3 and classic music on with master volume louder, it definitely works. The looping is not entirely noticeable. I just hope we get a music fix soon (I want to hear the new music as it was meant to be).
Anyways, I've gotten used to the roughness around the edges. It's too awesome a game to have annoyances toward.
tetrisgrammaton
Member
the new graphics are kind of lame
TheUnknownForce
Member
tetrisgrammaton said:
In what sense? They doubled the game's resolution and made detail work to the sprites. Not like the old graphics are going to look better on a television that big.
Princess Skittles
Prince's's 'Skittle's
Very much so.TheUnknownForce said:
.TheUnknownForce said:
The old graphics look better because they are appropriate to their resolution.TheUnknownForce said:
The new graphics are simply filter upscaled with minor hand touchups. They look rather lackluster and empty for their resolution, lacking the detail packed into the smaller sized version. They're not necessarily BAD, mind you, but they really don't look or feel like 640x480 2D graphics.
Princess Skittles
Prince's's 'Skittle's
EmCeeGramr
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Princess Skittles said:
Uh... that post explains how they're NOT upscaled. Look at the second picture and the fourth picture. They're not up-rezzed with "minor touch-ups" at all.
Princess Skittles
Prince's's 'Skittle's
EmCeeGramr said:
By hand or not (personally, I'm inclined to believe they're not scaled by hand but they said they are as to not upset message board people), they're using a shitty upscaling method as the base.. the other images are touch-ups from that.
EmCeeGramr
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Princess Skittles said:
Yeah, as a base. As in, a reference used by the artist (AKA, Pixel, who made the new graphics) so that they have the basic shape and resolution of the finished sprite to work with.
On the left is the hand-upscaled and interpolated reference.
On the right is the finished sprite.
If you are really saying that it's just a filtered sprite with minor touch-ups, then you're crazy.