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[Teslerum]

Those two tweets aren't loading, but holy christ..

I thought "Gamergate" and "ahh! harassment and death threats! heelllppp!" were histrionic and embarrassing all around, but..

Turns out.. I mean. You're doing basic "reporting" here that tends to mitigate both what "gossip" spreads on "gaming news" sites and the criticism that "ethics in game journalism" was a b.s. pretext for something else. The "harassment" now looks like something vindictive moralistic borderline types have been doing to relatively normal people engaged in anything the tiniest bit unsavory or sexually forward (when they are men; women get a pass and a pass and a pass)

That culture war ended surprisingly

Honestly one thing that scares me about it all is the *guilty until proven innocent* mindset. One of the users in question that dug all of this up (David Cernat, a Modder) also contacted several journalists/youtubers and went over his doubts and the evidence that lead to his doubts. These were some responses:

Seeing you defend him, a man who will not defend himself, is seen by most as in poor taste. I'm not going to argue with you in public about it, I'm not going to attack or judge you for it. I'm just saying other people will, and likely will impact opportunities you get from people less understanding than myself (who are most of the world)

Consider what you're trying to do here. You're trying to find trivial faults to cast doubt on women's allegations even though you have to honestly admit you've no idea what happened. You're not truth-seeking here. It's not a good thing to be doing.

[...]

Honestly it looks like you've gone quite far down a conspiracy mindset here. Examine why you are so desperate for these people to be wrong, and why you're contriving the weakest, most circumstantial evidence into a case.

 

[tsumake]

There’s a very legitimate strategy to all this. People have found a way to advance their careers not by the quality of their work but by tearing down others and thus creating economic opportunities for themselves. Since aesthetics are subjective, there is an ambiguity of what is good and bad, particularly when it comes to entertainment. Thus, “good” artists come to fore because what we thought was quality was actually “degenerate.” And if you successfully add a moral element to it (“You are a terrible person for liking this”) you are ensuring a consistent audience.

 

[abcdrstuv]

Honestly one thing that scares me about it all is the *guilty until proven innocent* mindset. One of the users in question that dug all of this up (David Cernat, a Modder) also contacted several journalists/youtubers and went over his doubts and the evidence that lead to his doubts. These were some responses:

Yeah, they're immature assholes.. what do you do when assholes get a majority except wait for them to shit out all over themselves and retreat in embarrassment..

 

[abcdrstuv]

Maybe I'm being unkind.. at minimum, they're incredibly immature, self-righteous, and inexperienced - as socially "obtuse" as any male gamer stereotype they demean..

 

[David Cernat]

Seeing as I've already been mentioned a few times in this thread, here's the exoneration video I posted on YouTube earlier today:



Help me spread it in friendly communities.

 

[In Your Vase]

Wow, missed this whole thread. Thanks for the heads-up - and this is all kinds of messed up.

 

[YeulEmeralda]

Look under your chair now. EVERYONE'S GETTING CANCELLED!

 

[ShadowNate]

I appreciate the hard work that went into the exoneration video.

Hopefully, it will help C. Avellone, although I'm not very optimistic that the damage can be reversed.

It's so sad that dangerous people like this twitter accuser are allowed to thrive and get support from others making up stories or aligning themselves to crazy for a bit of publicity or virtue signaling.

 

[Compsiox]

We should send dirty underwear to his house and spam all of his numbers.

 

[MrFunSocks]

I don’t know any of these people, never heard of them, and don’t care at all, but Jesus Christ Twitter was a mistake. All those tweets in the exoneration video should’ve just been messages between each other. No reason for them to be public.

I hate this whole “predatory behaviour” bullshit thing. It seems to be the go to for women to use to try and cancel people when they haven’t actually done anything wrong.

 

[BigBooper]

Seeing as I've already been mentioned a few times in this thread, here's the exoneration video I posted on YouTube earlier today:



Help me spread it in friendly communities.

Unfortunately, I think this mind virus has no cure and it just has to run it's course.

 

[GreatnessRD]

I appreciate the hard work that went into the exoneration video.

Hopefully, it will help C. Avellone, although I'm not very optimistic that the damage can be reversed.

It's so sad that dangerous people like this twitter accuser are allowed to thrive and get support from others making up stories or aligning themselves to crazy for a bit of publicity or virtue signaling.

So you're saying the hoe lied?!

She should be sued and thrown in jail. And that goes for anyone who get caught lying and practically destroy careers. Which is why I'm a firm believer that if you cry rape and found to be bullshittin', you should get the sentence the defendant was slated to get. Fuck her.

 

[Shantae]

Seeing as I've already been mentioned a few times in this thread, here's the exoneration video I posted on YouTube earlier today:



Help me spread it in friendly communities.

I'm just overwhelmed by this nonsense. I don't know what the fuck happened even after all this shit, but whatever it was...it was not sexual assault or harassment. It was a bunch of cunts who decided to warp their own perception about what happened. I fucking hate this world. Equality is not equality to these people. it's "believe me because I'm woman! you're evil because you are man"

 

[Kenpachii]

Seeing as I've already been mentioned a few times in this thread, here's the exoneration video I posted on YouTube earlier today:



Help me spread it in friendly communities.

So basically she's bad shit insane, racist and a psychopath.

Dude should sue her.

 

[GeorgPrime]

I'm just overwhelmed by this nonsense. I don't know what the fuck happened even after all this shit, but whatever it was...it was not sexual assault or harassment. It was a bunch of cunts who decided to warp their own perception about what happened. I fucking hate this world. Equality is not equality to these people. it's "believe me because I'm woman! you're evil because you are man"

With shit like this i understand why women werent allowed to do anything back in the days

No just kidding. Not every women is a psycho... you just have to search very carefully for that person.

 

[wondermega]

possible to get a TLDR of the video? 45min geez. I used to work w Chris several years ago at Obsidian, he was a good guy (admittedly I've never been out drinking with him so I cannot speak to that)

 

[In Your Vase]

Wow, among the others’ bullshit (I’ll have to do some digging), these two really stood out: both for Megan Fausti’s 180 and then hero-to-women-devs Jacqui Collins admitting she doesn’t protect friends in the industry until called out and then fesses up?

Don’t know which is more backstabby, but impressive show all around.

Jacqui’s at Riot, so she’s already in hell and is complicit in the supposed shit she herself takes selective stands against, but Fausti looks like she got fired from Jedi Order after it shipped (although she didn’t bother to update her LinkedIn, looks like). Good riddance to them both.

Edit: Apparently, Jacqui Collins was a big fan of Escoblades, but not a peep when her best bud got called out. Got to bury that history, I suppose. /Eyeroll

 

[PresetError]

possible to get a TLDR of the video? 45min geez. I used to work w Chris several years ago at Obsidian, he was a good guy (admittedly I've never been out drinking with him so I cannot speak to that)

Same old story. Women reinterpreting events of the past to fit a narrative that presents them as victims using vague and slanderous language and being backed up by other women with increasingly weak stories of abuse until by the power of mass hysteria the prey is portrayed as a monster for acting like a human being.

 

[Darkmakaimura]

I don’t know any of these people, never heard of them, and don’t care at all, but Jesus Christ Twitter was a mistake. All those tweets in the exoneration video should’ve just been messages between each other. No reason for them to be public.

I hate this whole “predatory behaviour” bullshit thing. It seems to be the go to for women to use to try and cancel people when they haven’t actually done anything wrong.

People say "Twitter isn't real life" but unfortunately today it actually is. It's cost people jobs, relationships, reputation. It's made companies bend a knee. Etc.

It's sad now.

It's the biggest mistake on the Internet.

 

[Johnny Silver]

This women is only proving with her behavior that's she's unable to demonstrate autonomy when making decisions.

Any past event can be distorted under a completely different view that's convenient to her. None of us were there, none us know of how things happened.

They may have even parted ways cordially and respect both's personal space, and now she's distorting it to conveniently have a narrative so she can shame and destroy him.

The fact that she uses twitter as a first resort to shame him is indication that she doesn't have anything of substance. If she did, and if the case were truly serious then she would have reported this to the police.

This whole entire scene is just making her look like a childish immature person. No wonder men in the workplace are stating to distance themselves from women. If women can't be responsible adults who have to accept the outcomes of their choices, then they aren't functional autonomous adults and their statements shouldn't be taken seriously and without any amount of credibility.

 

[Kenpachii]

She's nuts, look at what she shouts on a public space, she seems to do this all day long. it's almost like she lives on twitter and obviously got radicalized hard.

Her about her former boyfriend with his new relationship on twitter:

Then some other tweets

It goes on and on with her, seems like she lives on twitter. Constantly attacks people on it etc attack them call them nazi's, call them whatever just to get attention.

About the guy chris, she praises him to the end of the earth in a really weird and creepy way, then does a 180 and calls him whatever she can get her mind on. I don't know if anybody could take her seriously. She changes her stance on things, and changes her story constantly without wanting to explain anything.

Her friends join in, with old conversations pulled out of context, then when called out, they suddently forgot about it.

She also goes full racist with blaming white guys for everything basically like your typical radicalized teenager on twitter.

 

[Newly Vacant]

She's nuts, look at what she shouts on a public space, she seems to do this all day long. it's almost like she lives on twitter and obviously got radicalized hard.

Her about her former boyfriend with his new relationship on twitter:

Then some other tweets

What theology is that? Is there an Old Testament denomination that teaches praying for the destruction of your enemies?

She seems all kinds of crazy.

 

[Barakov]

Wow, among the others’ bullshit (I’ll have to do some digging), these two really stood out: both for Megan Fausti’s 180 and then hero-to-women-devs Jacqui Collins admitting she doesn’t protect friends in the industry until called out and then fesses up?

Don’t know which is more backstabby, but impressive show all around.

Jacqui’s at Riot, so she’s already in hell and is complicit in the supposed shit she herself takes selective stands against, but Fausti looks like she got fired from Jedi Order after it shipped (although she didn’t bother to update her LinkedIn, looks like). Good riddance to them both.

Edit: Apparently, Jacqui Collins was a big fan of Escoblades, but not a peep when her best bud got called out. Got to bury that history, I suppose. /Eyeroll

The hypocrisy is astounding.

 

[Ladioss]

What theology is that? Is there an Old Testament denomination that teaches praying for the destruction of your enemies?

'Bigot', before the word got colonized by the Radical Left.

 

[Teslerum]

BTW, Chris updated his Linkedin recently and clarified his contribution to Bloodlines 2:

So yeah, if Bloodlines 2 wasn't a complete mess already, I doubt it was as easy to remove Chris content as they claim to.

 

[David Cernat]

possible to get a TLDR of the video? 45min geez. I used to work w Chris several years ago at Obsidian, he was a good guy (admittedly I've never been out drinking with him so I cannot speak to that)

There's a good TLDR here:

 

[BacklashWave534]

Minimum 20 year jail sentence for engaging the hate mob on Twitter will fix the problem. Maybe she can share a cell with her BLM buddies who are burning down our cities.

 

[Vow of Silence]

BTW, Chris updated his Linkedin recently and clarified his contribution to Bloodlines 2:

So yeah, if Bloodlines 2 wasn't a complete mess already, I doubt it was as easy to remove Chris content as they claim to.

They just need to make sure all the bad characters have evil immutable characteristics and all the good characters have good immutable characteristics. Half hour job.

 

[David Cernat]

There's a good TLDR here:

Well, a moderator on that subreddit has decided to nuke the whole thread, comments and all.

Here's the same writeup on a subreddit that has allowed it:

 

[Teslerum]

Well, a moderator on that subreddit has decided to nuke the whole thread, comments and all.

Holy shit, you're not kidding.



Normally when a thread on reddit gets nuked a mod doesn't bother removing comments and just removes the thread. That he went through the extra effort to nuke the comments is mental.

 

[Vaelka]

The complete lack of skepticism of some people in regards to this stuff is really concerning.
Saying that you don't know isn't the same thing as disbelieving an alleged victim and if you just accept what someone says as true and they're lying then you're also the bad person in the equation and you're actively supporting the perpetrator...
Almost none of the people partaking in this kinda stuff know any of these people personally, if it was someone that you knew personally on a close level I can understand believing what they say but just believing complete fucking random people on the internet and trying to get someones life ruined over it is the height of stupidity.

The problem too is that none of these people doing it risk shit.
If someone accuses someone else of something and you go crazy with it you're not risking anything if it ends up being false, no one is taking you to court or anything you'll just move on and do the same thing again.
There's just no consequences or risks involved in partaking in this stuff.
It doesn't even have to be sexual assault charges either, but just people believing random shit on the internet and going on these crusades because of it.
It's just cowardly shit and herd mentality, it's a risk free way for people to feel like they're important for once in their lives and it's pathetic.

 

[RoboFu]

I’m confused.

What exactly is the problem here?

Did you click on her twitter. eveything is the matter. lol

 

[Lanrutcon]

Oh hey, crazy entitled female who has probably never done an honest day's work in her life tries to ruin a man cause of feelings and an absolute disconnect from reality.

You'd be fucking crazy to hire that woman after this mess.

 

[Omnipunctual Godot]

Well, a moderator on that subreddit has decided to nuke the whole thread, comments and all.

Here's the same writeup on a subreddit that has allowed it:

The author might want to archive the links before the tweets get deleted.

 

[David Cernat]

The author might want to archive the links before the tweets get deleted.

Don't worry. Every single tweet shown in the video is archived in at least 2 different places.

 

[In Your Vase]

I think it's super weird if you're going to "target" and "assault" someone you bring a married guy (Jaros) and a gay guy (Gaider) with you to escort a person back to their room? Not like they even went into the hotel room anyway, but bizarre.

Also, funny that Avellone was buying drinks for Gaider, too, so maybe he is gay after all, he just needs a few drinks to grease the wheels.

 

[MightySquirrel]

Sounds like someone got dropped and after crying all night she decided it's smart to make a fool of herself by making a baseless tweet the very next morning.

 

[Torrent of Pork]

This is why the Pence Rule exists.

 

[Balducci30]

Who the hell is Chris avellone

 

[SF Kosmo]

Avellone is a well known asshole. Talented writer though.

 

[In Your Vase]

To add to the backstabby bandwagon, Robin Hunicke is seriously gross in all respects.

Has she done anything since taking all credit for Journey, or is she still gathering algae and weeds for her nest beneath the bridge

 

[Cockles & Whelks]

Looking at the Twitter allies buried in the responses who hold positions in gaming companies I'd say there's never been a better time to get into retro gaming. Baton down the he/she/they hatches.

 

[ShadowNate]

I really hope this is over, and he can stay away from twitter and all his former back-stabby friends, lead a quiet life with his family and his own unaffected by the mob.

If you're already someone and don't really need the work, it's probably the best "screw you" to the cancel culture, the woke and the virtue signalling colleagues.

I still don't understand how people can defend the mob mentality after people have committed suicide as a result for dubious allegations from dubious twitter accounts (and "friends") for something that may have happened probably not as described years ago.

How is this still going on.

 

[In Your Vase]

Had to share after watching Exoneration video and recent news - so former manager Emily Grace Buck who threw Avellone under the bus has done an amazing thing and thrown herself under the bus:

Then:

Now:

Guess taking a strong stance on The Industry™ doesn’t matter when a paycheck is involved /rollseyes

Edit: Even better on "very little writing" part - apparently, she vanished off the project for about a year, and they had to hire another writer and Avellone to do her work when she vanished. Amazing. Great gig if you keep getting paid, I guess.

 

[David Cernat]

Speaking of Emily Grace Buck, this Monday she finally replied to the message I sent her on the 5th of August:

Despite her polite greeting, she then immediately blocked me:

 

[GhostOfTsu]

How come Chris is not doing anything to defend himself? Does he really have enough money to just disappear and retire?

 

[M1chl]

How come Chris is not doing anything to defend himself? Does he really have enough money to just disappear and retire?

He admitted wrong doing, that he "should known better", which is dead sentence basically. So sadly probably retire or wait few years and then reemerge. Sad shit is that even Polish company let him go, not sure why they would give a shit there, but here we are.

 

[ShadowNate]

I actually think that he didn't admit wrong doing. His short "I should have been better, and I apologize", "I am so sorry things didn't work out - I did try, very much. " on twitter that he posted quickly after the allegations is a polite (and very generic) response -- directed to an unhinged person that was posting "I'm livid" at the time and probably a whole lotta angry tweets he was flooded with because of the allegation which forced him to respond (he really shouldn't have).

The woke were sure to consider that an admission of guilt though and it definitely did not appease the mob one bit.

Unless I'm missing another statement of his.

 

[DJT123]

He admitted wrong doing, that he "should known better", which is dead sentence basically. So sadly probably retire or wait few years and then reemerge. Sad shit is that even Polish company let him go, not sure why they would give a shit there, but here we are.

Fuck Techland and Dying Light 2; the real G.O.A.T.S Owlcat shrugged off the "accusations of imperfection" and Avellone's wonderful writing and characterization will be in Pathfinder 2.

 

[Hudo]

Speaking of Emily Grace Buck, this Monday she finally replied to the message I sent her on the 5th of August:

Despite her polite greeting, she then immediately blocked me: