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[Omadahl]

My mom is a therapist who works with sexual offenders. This sort of sick crap fits the profile of her clientele. There is no way they are doing it for the conversation.

 

[kuroneko0509]

I've been thinking about watching Love & Pop, Anno's movie specifically about enjo kosai but haven't unfortunately. IIRC in the movie explores in the context of materialism, from the girl's perspective as a way to support their materialistic needs and from the men's perspective as objectifying the girls which become the "material" to satisfy their materialism.

It's well worth a viewing, of course I watched it back then just wanting more Anno after Eva, but it was a very insightful watch. Also doing some digging around, here's a neat article from TimeAsia of one girl's take on Enjou Kosai, it's locked sub content, but here's the C/P from another site:

She's Only a Little Schoolgirl

Why did she sleep with him? Money? Fun? Boredom? Gucci? Because, like, whatever
As told to KATE DRAKE Kyoto

I started doing Enjo Kosai my second year of high school. On most of my dates, I had sex. That's the weirdest thing I've ever done—meeting someone for the first time and screwing him the same day.

I was going to school like usual but I was bored and had no money. My boyfriend, the guy I lost my virginity to, had just broken up with me. I wouldn't do enjo kosai if I had a boyfriend. Losing him was really rough. So I just left a message about myself on a cyber message board and chose a sex partner from the guys who wrote back. It wasn't hard. Guys who want sex and dinner, guys who just want sex, guys who just want dinner—they're all out there. They leave messages like, "Any girl who will have sex for 50,000 yen [$420] send a message here," and stuff like that. I just had to say that I was a high school girl, you know?

So guys wrote back their age or just, like, "Let's have dinner." I chose guys based on their age and occupation. This guy I met at Kyoto Station, he and I wrote back and forth for a week before we met. He was practically an e-mail friend. I told him when I was free and he told me when he was free, and we just decided from there. He chose the price.

It was autumn so it was kinda chilly. I don't remember which day it was, but it was definitely a weekday because I went to school first. I got out at 3:30 p.m. then went home. I wear a school uniform and loose socks to school, so I had to change. Then I went to the station. I didn't do anything special to prepare for the date, I just went. We must have met around 6 p.m., in front of the ticket stalls. I used my cell phone to figure out who he was. He was wearing a gray suit. When I first saw him I thought, "Yep. He looks his age. He's a total salaryman."

We started talking. I asked him what he does at his job and he asked me about my school and what I do in my spare time. We just chatted. He had a white sedan and he drove us to some boring Italian place, I don't remember where. I had spaghetti, it wasn't expensive or anything. Then we went to a love hotel to have sex. He chose the hotel, it was in Minamiinta, Yamashina, off a toll road. It was just a normal place and he picked the room.

We just kinda carried on a regular conversation in the room. I mean we didn't talk about sex or anything. I took a bath first, alone. While I was in the tub, he took off his clothes. Then we did it. I used a condom so I wouldn't get pregnant. Afterward we agreed that it had gotten late, so he said, "I'll give you a lift." So he drove me to the station and that's when he paid me. I got 50,000 yen—50,000 or 60,000, I can't remember.

I didn't get a gift from him but most guys pay some sort of tribute to me. Guys always pay homage. But all the guys who wanted to screw me were old! Like, in their 30s. And none of them was attractive. One guy gave me a Gucci ring but I didn't keep it. Using it was gross! I sold it and spent the money on snowboarding. I bought lots of cute accessories and went on snowboarding trips. I'm actually going on a trip this weekend to Shiga Kogen, with my older brother's friends.

I didn't even know there was a law against enjo kosai. No one but me knew what I was doing so I thought it was O.K. It's not like I told my friends about it or anything. Enjo kosai's not something my friends and I talk about. I have no idea if any of them are doing it or have done it. To this day only five or six people know about me doing it. My parents definitely don't know—they would be pissed off. They'd think that I'm shameless.

I stopped doing enjo kosai after a while. When I did it, all I was thinking was that it's only for today so it doesn't matter. Stuff like, "No problem, don't worry that it's not someone you like." At the time I didn't think that I was doing anything bad, but now I think it was bad.

So I don't go shopping as much as I used to, even though I love Gucci's new stuff. I used to wear kogal fashion too, but not anymore. Now I have a part-time job in a Japanese inn serving breakfast and stuff but I also know some store managers here in town that give me day jobs, so I make about 30,000-40,000 yen a month. My dad gave me this Louis Vuitton purse. Yeah, it's small, but it's a brand name. I manage to save a little money. Very little.

Usually I go out with my friends, doing karaoke. I hang out here in Kyoto because my hometown is totally dead. Everything closes by 12 a.m. and there's, like, nothing to do. I don't eat dinner at home, I just go out with friends instead. O.K., maybe like four times a week. If I don't have to work, I'll go out drinking. My parents know that I drink but they don't care—I don't have a curfew or anything.

I'm the middle kid in my family. When I was little I wanted to become a housewife. Now I don't know what I want to do in the future. I just graduated from high school though. And I passed the college entrance exam so I'm going to go to a local college. I'm still going to live at home.

I've never talked with my parents or teachers about sex, are you kidding? My friends and I don't really talk about sex either. I've had sex with seven people, and that includes the guys I've actually liked.

A little more on Enjou kosai:

http://www.japanfortheuninvited.com/articles/enjo-kosai.html

It’s easy to understand why middle-aged men want to have sex with young girls. But why do the girls do it?

Japan has always been a country where external appearances are important. Traditionally, social prestige has been held in material symbols (samurai’s swords and hairstyles, exclusive aristocratic colours), and nothing has changed. The rabid desire for flashy designer clothes, born during the economic “miracle”, hasn’t been stemmed by economic problems.

It’s not all about money and fancy clothes. Japanese children lead a restrictive life at home and school, so enjo kosai could be seen as a sexual rite of passage for curious young women.

 

[PK Gaming]

Yeah, I remember hearing about this a while back. Incredibly fucked up, I feel really bad for the kids who are too scared to go home after getting involved in this.

Vice's video on the subject

 

[cosmicblizzard]

While no link has been made between anime, manga and child abuse, a 2014 White Paper issued by the Japanese National Police Agency said that the number of child abuse victims jumped 20% between 2011 and 2012.

The 20% jump is actually good since it hopefully means people are reporting, which will hopefully mean we'll get a more accurate look at the numbers so something can be done about it.

That statement is worded really weird though. The first part has nothing to do with the second, so it's like a total non-sequitur. The ONLY possible relevance is the Healthy Youth ordinance that was first enforced in 2011, which would actually suggest limiting that kind of anime/manga increases the amount of child abuse cases.

In one Tokyo manga store, in an area marked "adults only," CNN observed content which depicted female characters wearing school uniforms, hair clips and innocent expressions as they engaged in sometimes violent sex acts with dominant characters.

Wonder if they found any really extreme guro.

An official mascot for Japan Tourism...

Stay classy, Japan.

Not gonna lie, that sword looks awesome.

Haha, this meme is so true it reminds me of what happened a few weeks ago.

My sister has a male friend she plays games with occassionally. And somehow we were talking about Fire Emblem Awakening. I asked him who he married and he said Nowi. I laughed and said she's pedobait jokingly, and then it got creepy.

He started on about some NAMBLA shit like, if he made the laws "free love" between kids and adult men( he only said men lol) would be legal, there are kid genuises who should "love" who they want and early exposure to sexuality is not harmful to kids, blah blah blah. I was really creeped out.

Damn, I know people in this thread are pointing out gaffers that defend related stuff, but I don't think anyone here would defend NAMBLA.

 

[ajim]

Yeah, I remember hearing about this a while back. Incredibly fucked up, I feel really bad for the kids who are too scared to go home after getting involved in this.

Vice's video on the subject

Good watch.

That also led me to: https://news.vice.com/video/the-wor...be&utm_medium=video&utm_campaign=relatedvideo

Which was really bad too...

 

[Not]

Rich, deep culture is born from something that might not be accepted by all.

So is this their fucking version of "heritage, not hate?"

Jesus fuck. Get help.

 

[Faustek]

Oh Japan.
So fucking disgusting. I mean they have a legal brothel with a few women that are only working there because they look like 12.....Wait That was Nevada USA not Japan.

Can't find the documentary about it but there is one out there where they actually interview these women about work there and this one woman says straight out that she is working there making good money just because of people that are attracted to a children. She said better her than children. I agree but it was still disgusting to me.

BTW, I don't think brothels are disgusting. I think they are great. Helped lower trafficking in Germany* and has actually helped raise the quality of life for the men and women who decided to prostitute themselves. But it should be pointed out that it's highly different. A person visiting a legal brothel or someone making a purchase at a human trafficking ring. One wants company of sort the other wants something dark and disgusting.

*The reports I've read has also pointed out that the trafficking problem isn't "solved" but just moved outside the German border but there probably still exist within the border just that it's on a smaller scale compared to before. Sweden has been really involved with finger pointing in this but as usual it ends there.

Anyway on topic: yeah this is disgusting. At least be at Drinking age before you allow anyone this kind of work. IIRC it's 20 for drinking and smoking in Japan.

 

[sora87]

It was only in June 2014 that the government finally outlawed the ownership of child pornography.

That is horrendous :/

 

[Ingueferroque]

Easy to see why anime is littered with this shit and certain vita games exist.

Oh yeah its just Vita.

 

[OrangeGrayBlue]

Wasn't there a better topic to cover ?... because every country has its dark side or weidest hobbies.

I know this guy's already banned, but I just want to point out the irony of someone who joined a forum devoted to video games going out of his way to state that sex trafficking isn't worth discussing.


That said, there are pretty serious sex trafficking issues all over the world. It's tough, especially in the US, because sex-related issues make us so uncomfortable that we won't even discuss it nationally. You won't see any politician detailing their plan to curb sex trafficking or make prostitution work safer, if not less prevalent altogether.

 

[Menome]

Damn, I know people in this thread are pointing out gaffers that defend related stuff, but I don't think anyone here would defend NAMBLA.

Some of us just really like seeing impersonations of Marlon Brando, we can't help it.

On a serious note; it seems that on a cultural level things like these cafés have fallen into the stereotyped mindset of: "Oh, crazy kooky Japan". There's not enough of a cultural push at the moment of people going: "No, this is wrong" both in and outside of the country

Once that starts to happen, then maybe some actual progress can be made. Articles like the one in the OP may be small and light on details, but they at least raise awareness.

 

[MrChom]

BTW, I don't think brothels are disgusting. I think they are great. Helped lower trafficking in Germany* and has actually helped raise the quality of life for the men and women who decided to prostitute themselves. But it should be pointed out that it's highly different. A person visiting a legal brothel or someone making a purchase at a human trafficking ring. One wants company of sort the other wants something dark and disgusting.

*The reports I've read has also pointed out that the trafficking problem isn't "solved" but just moved outside the German border but there probably still exist within the border just that it's on a smaller scale compared to before. Sweden has been really involved with finger pointing in this but as usual it ends there.

This is one of those unfortunate truths, like with the "war on drugs" we'd like to pretend we can crack down on vices really hard and they'll go away....but they won't. Like cigarettes and alcohol these things are better legalised, standardised, and taxed than they are pushed towards the criminal fringes of society.

As for being dark and disgusting....how many "barely legal" porn stars seem to do repeated scenes as Catholic school girls? How many times do you see girls asked their age at the beginning of a video and saying they just turned 18? There is a reason for this and it's not even a weird association....the male brain is wired to value certain things...youth, vitality, and "purity" are some of those things (Although everyone weights them differently, which is why fetishes exist). At some point you do have to admit that with all the schoolgirl fantasy stuff we are kind of enforcing a cycle here. Want to look deeper into this odd little section of the world....find me a UK university that doesn't run a "back to school" night at one of the union bars....

 

[cosmicblizzard]

For the manga/anime....this leaves me very conflicted. I mean the OP even quotes there is no proven link between it and offences against children, and by its very nature there are no real children involved. It's horrible, it's offensive, but is it free speech? I don't know. If you can't show criminal or illegal acts does this now mean you can't show murder, or theft? It's a "Thin end of the wedge" argument, but one that holds weight in this case. Again, coming from my own nation child porn is obviously banned, but then this was extended to the drawn form, and then the drawn form of anything covered in the obscene publications act, and now covers some forms of bondage and domination. Our rights as a nation to watch consenting adults take part in acts that are legal to perform have been criminalised. The current law means that while two 16 year olds having sex is fine if one of them made a sex tape out of it they would be deemed to have committed a criminal act.

There are numbers that indicate positive results (it lowers the amount of cases), but also a bit of research that suggests the opposite on an individual basis.

So really, we need more research, but banning or keeping depictions of anything in drawings is always going to be a hot topic for debate, especially when big names like Neil Gaiman get involved.

How do you separate fantasy from reality when you're OK with fantasy being super creepy?

Does fantasy not have the right to be super creepy?

So is this their fucking version of "heritage, not hate?"

Jesus fuck. Get help.

He may have said it a bit dramatically, but he's purely talking about manga/anime, not the trafficking and JK bullshit. Also:

With that, he admitted that some products of the industry leave him and his colleagues "disgusted."

But really, that isn't an uncommon sentiment among the industry. Even if they find something disgusting, many are willing to fight for its right to exist provided it remains solely in the world of anime/manga/games. That's why there was such a strong pushback from well-known mangaka back when news of the ordinance spread, including Murata, artist of current non-anime fan favorite, One Punch Man. Though that's not surprising since he probably draws Tatsumaki porn in his free time (which should be never because we need season 2 soon).

Not to say it's right or wrong, that's just how a lot of industry folk view it.

 

[MHWilliams]

Don't try and defend this shit.

I was going to say more on the topic, but Sprsk has far more experience with Japan. Probably far more than most in this thread. Probably all that needs to be said.

 

[Faustek]

As for being dark and disgusting....

I'm OK with people pretending to be 18 what I'm talking about is the torture, not SM but outright torture some of these people have to take. This is a slave they've acquired. Something they own and can treat it as an object. The status of a human being is revoked and in the hands of the owner. Pedophiles is a whole other beast. One I have a hard time to even admit that it exists. The thing seems so anathema, repulsive, delusional something that can't be real because it's so...I don't have words.
But truth be told I haven't made the connection before either. With the porn being "oh I just turned 18".

 

[MrChom]

I'm OK with people pretending to be 18 what I'm talking about is the torture, not SM but outright torture some of these people have to take. This is a slave they've acquired. Something they own and can treat it as an object. The status of a human being is revoked and in the hands of the owner. Pedophiles is a whole other beast. One I have a hard time to even admit that it exists. The thing seems so anathema, repulsive, delusional something that can't be real because it's so...I don't have words.
But truth be told I haven't made the connection before either. With the porn being "oh I just turned 18".

Yeah, this is probably where that whole regulation thing should come in. If you're defining something as torture, and the....uh....paid participant isn't totally happy with it then it has to be off the table. But then you're moving into issues regarding consent (Where only yes should mean yes)...and that stirs up a massive hornet's nest of dumb comments.

The whole thing is very far from a healthy S&M set of attitudes (burn that copy of 50 shades, go read Sunstone).

 

[MrChom]

There are numbers that indicate positive results (it lowers the amount of cases), but also a bit of research that suggests the opposite on an individual basis.

So really, we need more research, but banning or keeping depictions of anything in drawings is always going to be a hot topic for debate, especially when big names like Neil Gaiman get involved.

This would suggest someone out there was willing to try evidence based policy making, rather than policy based evidence making. Unfortunately this is not how the British government works, I'm not sure about anywhere else.

 

[timetokill]

But all the guys who wanted to screw me were old! Like, in their 30s.

;___;

it cuts deep

 

[Prototype Viktor]

Are there actually Japanese people with light brown hair and hazel eyes?

happens in all places in that went through a period of time occupied america/england/etc
the light brown hair isn't as a dominate gene as black hair. Ain't a accident that black hair is the most common hair color

 

[Faustek]

Yeah, this is probably where that whole regulation thing should come in. If you're defining something as torture, and the....uh....paid participant isn't totally happy with it then it has to be off the table. But then you're moving into issues regarding consent (Where only yes should mean yes)...and that stirs up a massive hornet's nest of dumb comments.

The whole thing is very far from a healthy S&M set of attitudes (burn that copy of 50 shades, go read Sunstone).

I think we might be talking a bit at the side of what I initially meant.
Trafficking is slavery. Prostitution isn't. Then again I haven't slept for 29 hours and I feel pangs of mushiness between my ears

happens in all places in that went through a period of time occupied america/england/etc
the light brown hair isn't as a dominate gene as black hair. Ain't a accident that black hair is the most common hair color

I'm mixed as fuck. According to my mom I'm Jamaican, Nicaraguan, African, Brittish and Asian of some sort on her side on my father's side I'm Swedish, Italian and German. To some I look black to others I look white. To me I'm me. Light skinned during winter and darker during summer.
Sooooo a few years back I woke up with copper red in my beard plus grey in my otherwise black beard. I can take grey but the red freaked me out. Still happens. I wonder if it isn't just hair that is going grey but I woke up and saw it before it actually turned

 

[GnawtyDog]

In Japan, when you turn 25, you're already past your prime.

You learn something new everyday.

 

[MrChom]

I think we might be talking a bit at the side of what I initially meant.
Trafficking is slavery. Prostitution isn't. Then again I haven't slept for 29 hours and I feel pangs of mushiness between my ears

Ah, right, gotcha. Yes. Trafficking is slavery and rape, yes. Even with the legalisation of brothels/prositution you have to be careful about making sure it doesn't rear its ugly head.

 

[Faustek]

You learn something new everyday.

About 10 years ago the Thai lady owning the shop where I usually buy my Asian food tries to set me up with some ladies. I said sure. Hadn't had a date in ages. From nowhere she magically produces 10+ something pictures of women all in their early 20s but I felt them to be a tad young in my eyes so I asked about another girl which I had met briefly at a party. She just laughed and basically said that I shouldn't date an old sphincter spinster. The woman in question was 29 :|

Ah, right, gotcha. Yes. Trafficking is slavery and rape, yes. Even with the legalisation of brothels/prositution you have to be careful about making sure it doesn't rear its ugly head.

No worries and yes. If it is made to be legal police must have full access whenever they want so nothing ugly pops up. Perhaps like those random health controls restaurants have.

 

[Krejlooc]

The age of consent in Japan is 13

This really is all that needs to be said about how backwards Japan is in some areas.

What the fuck?

 

[Ban Puncher]

BRO DID YOU KNOW THAT IN JAPAN THEY SELL USED PANTIES IN VENDING MACHINES BRO?!?!?!


Enjo kosai (compensated dating) has been a thing in Japan since the 1980's and there have been many articles and films made about it. It is definitely something that should be talked about more openly in Japanese society, discouraged and policed better but it must of been a slow news day at CNN for them to pull this story out of mothballs for some easy outrage clicks during the quiet holiday period.

 

[boinx]

BRO DID YOU KNOW THAT IN JAPAN THEY SELL USED PANTIES IN VENDING MACHINES BRO?!?!?!


Enjo kosai (compensated dating) has been a thing in Japan since the 1980's and there have been many articles and films made about it. It is definitely something that should be talked about more openly in Japanese society, discouraged and policed better but it must of been a slow news day at CNN for them to pull this story out of mothballs for some easy outrage clicks during the quiet holiday period.

Well shit man I've been to Tokyo twice and I haven't heard of this so more coverage ain't bad. Gotta make some noise to at least try to change things.

 

[RoyalFool]

I remember reading the Initial D manga as a kid, one minute it's all about fast cars and then out of nowhere his girlfriend is a hooker for old business men. My face went from zero to what-the-fuck in about 10 seconds.

 

[Carcetti]

BRO DID YOU KNOW THAT IN JAPAN THEY SELL USED PANTIES IN VENDING MACHINES BRO?!?!?!


Enjo kosai (compensated dating) has been a thing in Japan since the 1980's and there have been many articles and films made about it. It is definitely something that should be talked about more openly in Japanese society, discouraged and policed better but it must of been a slow news day at CNN for them to pull this story out of mothballs for some easy outrage clicks during the quiet holiday period.

So a disgusting thing that should be discouraged and policed better shouldn't be reported in the news? Sure told us baka gaijins.

Shining a light on cockroaches isn't something you wanna forget to do after you've done it once a ten years ago.

 

[Finaika]

I was going to say more on the topic, but Sprsk has far more experience with Japan. Probably far more than most in this thread. Probably all that needs to be said.

Is he an expert?

 

[Violet_0]

my creepy former roommate was really interested in this "compensated dating" thing. I tried to avoid talking to him after a while

 

[Ban Puncher]

So a disgusting thing that should be discouraged and policed better shouldn't be reported in the news? Sure told us baka gaijins.

Shining a light on cockroaches isn't something you wanna forget to do after you've done it once a ten years ago.

There are a gorillion better posts to pop off on than one that says 'bad thing is bad - old but still bad'.

Simmer down, senpai.

 

[teruterubozu]

I didn't know this was a culture, I thought it was just a fetish like it is in America.

Everything is called ________ Culture these days. I wouldn't get too hung up on the semantics.

 

[Arthr2ShdsJcksn]

I'm reminded of a quote from one of my favorite authors.

"Roses are red,
And ready for plucking,
You're sixteen,
And ready for high school.”
― Kurt Vonnegut, Breakfast of Champions

I don't know if he ever went to Japan though.

 

[Sunset Samurai]

It's 14 in many Western countries.

Probably different In other States but it's 16 in mines

 

[Sheentak]

Yeah age of consent is kinda scary when it's like 16. I mean as long as your not in a position of trust a 40 year old can sleep with a 16 year old and no one can do anything.
But I guess you have to have the age of consent start somewhere.

On another point I totally understand why somebody young would do this, you earn more than you would taking a part time job.
I remember a friend who fell into a bad crowed who would deal drugs and he said this to Me `I could lay bricks and earn £10k a year or I could deal drugs and earn 10k a month'.
I'm sure something like this applies, not everyone is successful and if you come from a poor background this type of money is likely more than you'll earn doing legit work.


My hope is of they crack down on this they won't go after the girls. I really could see Japanese law enforcement calling parents/the school and punishing them that way hurting them in the long run.
I dont know what type of solution is best as a general rule I support legalisation of prostitution but these girls are so young even if they are 'legal'.

If 25 is the age where you are seen as a spinster it's a problem with society that puts too much value on youth. Don't know how to fix this.
Japanese society is very insular and in the past few years a massive anti foreigner movement has cropped up, you can hear there trucks going about in Tokyo yelling out propaganda and on the whole the movement I'd getting slowly bigger. So international pressure to change could have negative consequences politically. However Abe is in government and his pretty far right.

Like how do you change a aspect that's so huge culturally which is youth, I don't even know how.


Sorry for rambling just trying to brainstorm my thoughts.

 

[naw]

I've been thinking about watching Love & Pop, Anno's movie specifically about enjo kosai but haven't unfortunately. IIRC in the movie explores in the context of materialism, from the girl's perspective as a way to support their materialistic needs and from the men's perspective as objectifying the girls which become the "material" to satisfy their materialism.

amazing movie, was actually the first thing I thought of after I read the OP

 

[ChouGoku]

Haha, this meme is so true it reminds me of what happened a few weeks ago.

My sister has a male friend she plays games with occassionally. And somehow we were talking about Fire Emblem Awakening. I asked him who he married and he said Nowi. I laughed and said she's pedobait jokingly, and then it got creepy.

He started on about some NAMBLA shit like, if he made the laws "free love" between kids and adult men( he only said men lol) would be legal, there are kid genuises who should "love" who they want and early exposure to sexuality is not harmful to kids, blah blah blah. I was really creeped out.

What.The.Fuck. Kid geniuses? Early exposure is not harmful? Yo he needs his hard drive checked asap

 

[anaron]

Shocking no one.


This sick shit needs to be stopped.

 

[Oersted]

If the girls are anime, I see no problem with giving them big chests or sexy schoolgirl outfits. They're not real, they're a fantasy, like pornstars in school girl outfits.

But real young girls being pretty much sold to creeps?. No,NO, FUCK NO.

Japan needs to end that shit, separate fantasy from reality. Creeps should not have legal access to young girls. Period.

Anime girls are representation of young girls. Grown up adults are grown up adults. There is a difference.

Shocking no one.


This sick shit needs to be stopped.

Does an article have to be shocking or suprising to you?

 

[anaron]

Anime girls are representation of young girls. Grown up adults are grown up adults. There is a difference.



Does an article have to be shocking or suprising to you?

No?

I'm just saying it's yet another horrifying highlight case of Japan's completely creepy acceptance of pedophillia.

 

[Shadybiz]

Haha, this meme is so true it reminds me of what happened a few weeks ago.

My sister has a male friend she plays games with occassionally. And somehow we were talking about Fire Emblem Awakening. I asked him who he married and he said Nowi. I laughed and said she's pedobait jokingly, and then it got creepy.

He started on about some NAMBLA shit like, if he made the laws "free love" between kids and adult men( he only said men lol) would be legal, there are kid genuises who should "love" who they want and early exposure to sexuality is not harmful to kids, blah blah blah. I was really creeped out.

EWWWWWWW...yeah I'd certainly be creeped out, too, and and I don't know that I'd be comfortable with my sister hanging out with that dude.

 

[Akuun]

I remember reading the Initial D manga as a kid, one minute it's all about fast cars and then out of nowhere his girlfriend is a hooker for old business men. My face went from zero to what-the-fuck in about 10 seconds.

Initial D was my first encounter with this whole thing too.

I honestly didn't understand the girl's relationship with that dude in the suit because I was very young at the time and it was a completely alien concept to me. I thought hookers were only crack whores on the street at night who shacked up with equally sketchy looking guys, so my brain didn't make the connection that this normal-looking girl who was being picked up from school by this businessman-looking guy was also prostitution. The translation notes were super vague about it (didn't explain it at all), so I was completely lost about the whole thing until I found out about enjou kosai later. Then it was a great big what the fuck.

I like how people had trouble localizing this part of the show too. The Chinese movie adaptation cut through the bullshit and just plainly said she was being a hooker on the side.

 

[Megidolaon]

EWWWWWWW...yeah I'd certainly be creeped out, too, and and I don't know that I'd be comfortable with my sister hanging out with that dude.

Yeah, I cant exactly force her to stop talking to him since hes a coworker of hers and shes 23, but I know Im not comfortable.

They dont hang out much, maybe like 3 times over the year, and only at the house to play games, never alone.

I have a hunch his hard drive has shit on it, but despite what he said being creepy as shit, it wasnt exactly illegal. It was just so freaking creepy, but there wasnt exactly anything reportable legally.

 

[docbon]

There are a gorillion better posts to pop off on than one that says 'bad thing is bad - old but still bad'.

Simmer down, senpai.

CNN could have run a story infinitely more inane than one about child exploitation and sexual abuse, so I don't understand the slow news day / outrage click complaints.

Enjo Kosai may not be new to you, but that clearly doesn't apply to a lot of other people reading the thread. It's irrelevant how old the practice is when it's still bad and still happening.

 

[cosmicblizzard]

I learned about Enjo Kosai from that one Yandere Simulator video.

 

[Dr.Acula]

Yeah, I remember hearing about this a while back. Incredibly fucked up, I feel really bad for the kids who are too scared to go home after getting involved in this.

Vice's video on the subject

I remember that Simon Ostrovsky was captured by Russian agents in Crimea and imprisoned for several days, and then like a month later Vice sent him to Japan to interview school girls. Just thought that was kinda funny.

 

[Shadybiz]

Yeah, I cant exactly force her to stop talking to him since hes a coworker of hers and shes 23, but I know Im not comfortable.

They dont hang out much, maybe like 3 times over the year, and only at the house to play games, never alone.

I have a hunch his hard drive has shit on it, but despite what he said being creepy as shit, it wasnt exactly illegal. It was just so freaking creepy, but there wasnt exactly anything reportable legally.

Yeah, you're definitely right, nothing illegal can actually be proven from what he said, but still..nasty. It's good that they're not too close, and if he IS into that kind of stuff, her being 23 probably makes it not likely for him to try to creep on her.

 

[ShadowSoldier89]

I think maid cafes are supposed to be more goofy fun than sexual. Like they sing and do congo lines and shit like that.

I can confirm that I'm the reason you know this. Maid cafes are definitely Goofy, but they are innocent fun. They aren't what this article is about

 

[EvilKatarn]

I remember that Simon Ostrovsky was captured by Russian agents in Crimea and imprisoned for several days, and then like a month later Vice sent him to Japan to interview school girls. Just thought that was kinda funny.

Simon Ostrovski rules. Here he is drinking on the Trans-Siberian. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AtlxTF_SX28