malboroking
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This shit about Battlefield 4 again? I wasn't at all surprised when I scrolled up to see who posted it. This has been debunked so many times, even to you specifically, and yet you still bring it up. *shakes head*
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COD:Ghosts PS4/XBO Comparisons show the same resolution (720p)?
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This shit about Battlefield 4 again? I wasn't at all surprised when I scrolled up to see who posted it. This has been debunked so many times, even to you specifically, and yet you still bring it up. *shakes head*
Exactly. Either the game has a 720p mode (which should perform much better than 720p on XB1) or it should downsample (which is obviously not the case in those screenshots).
One plausible option is that the game has a 720p mode which renders natively, and that's where the captures are from, but the performance impressions are from 1080p.
Which would be incredibly silly.
There is also always the possibility that somebody just used the wrong footage by mistake and labeled it as the PS4 footage. It would be indeed utterly wired for IW to lie. In addition, several reviewers have confirmed that the PS4-version looks sharper, so some sort of mistake on IGN's side seems to be the most plausible explanation at the moment.
Yes, that's a third option. Perhaps the most likely one.
LetoAtreides82
Neo Member
How about if IGN's capture device (not the PS4 itself) was set to 720p, and then IGN upscaled that video to 1080p? Would that explain it?
dragonelite
Member
Confidence Man
Member
Can someone show 1080p shots of the same scenes from PC? Maybe with FXAA on if they use it?
No, then it should not have native 720p aliasing.
What about the button prompts? I've not watched the videos so don't know if any actually feature, though.
Next gen console launch directed by M Night Shyamalan it seems.
http://www.gamespot.com/videos/call-of-duty-ghosts-graphics-comparison/2300-6415938/
Have a look at the PC/PS4 footage around the 3:00 mark. The difference in detail on the trees, church and ground textures is night and day.
The former, easily. But that's not what's shown in the screen comparisons from IGN.
Okay, even if we buy into your assertions that the PS4 version isn't substantially better than the Xbox One version in both image quality and framerate consistency (which we don't), it still serves as harbinger of what to expect in ALL future multiplatform comparisons. A 60-100% increase in pixel density is nothing to sneeze at, and other multiplatform games won't have the "soft" form of AA that BF4 on PS4 *currently* has (in its review build) to give Xbox fanboys straws to grasp onto; they will simply look cleaner and sharper on the PS4, period.
Trust me when I say this: You WILL notice a massive, drastic difference in clarity and detail when true 1080p comparisons are made between Xbox One's 720p and PS4's full 1080p in Call of Duty: Ghosts' multiplayer mode (possibly single-player as well, but this is unconfirmed). There is no amount of overdone edge sharpen filters or crushed blacks that can hide the fact that you're running at less than half the number of pixels as the competition.
Only impressions of what the Xbox One version of that game is like came from Jeremy Conrad, and they weren't flattering (hints of reduced resolution, as well as "strained" performance): http://www.examiner.com/article/ass...g-ps4-and-xbox-one-native-resolution-compared
CambriaRising
Member
1080 down-sampled would look better but there is like no reason to do that.
LittleJohnny
Banned
Do you have a link proving that's the case with COD: Ghosts? because the images say otherwise.
When a game is rendered at 1080p and down-sampled to 720p, there are less jaggies. PC gamers do this all the time to get sharper edges. That's simply not the case here.
Yes there is. If your TV is only capable of 720p and developers aren't targeting multiple resolutions. The game will internally be at 1080p then downscaled. Would this give rise to the same aliasing, I don't know, as it would explain the IGN video.
LittleJohnny
Banned
To clarify, PC gamers don't downsample 1080p to 720p (Unless they have a 720p monitor 
) What's typically done is downsample 1440 or higher down to the resolution that their display supports. This effectively gives them a sharper less aliased image.
If the game was internally rendering at 1080p and was being downsampled to your display, it should look better than the one rendered internally at 720p, especially when displaying on a 1080p HDTV.
) What's typically done is downsample 1440 or higher down to the resolution that their display supports. This effectively gives them a sharper less aliased image. If the game was internally rendering at 1080p and was being downsampled to your display, it should look better than the one rendered internally at 720p, especially when displaying on a 1080p HDTV.
lowhighkang_LHK
Member
Doesn't the PS4 automatically detect the appropriate resolution your HDTV has when you boot it up since it's connected via HDMI. How can you possibly have the incorrect setting for something that's automated?
ref
Member
I think by the end of the day today we'll have some more news, Ghosts is widely available for PS4 almost everywhere, Taco Bell people get PS4's today I think.
We should know by the end of the day what's going on, or at least impressions from at least a couple Gaffers. Or at least, I hope.
plagiarize
Banned
Here you go:
Video footage captured at the review event of Ghosts seems to show the PS4 version running at 720p upscaled to 1080p in single player.
Infinity Ward are standing by it being 1080p native.
Many reviewers said they couldn't see a difference, and we questioned them. Many reviewers said they looked markedly different.
No reviewer said the game looked like it was running at 720p upscaled to 1080p.
Right now we don't know for certain that the game is 1080p native in both SP and MP on PS4. I'd strongly suggest however that it is. Rubin's posts on the matter would make zero sense if it isn't.
Right now we don't know if the reviewers saw the PS4 game running in 720p upscaled or at 1080p native. I'd say that one is a toss up.
Right now we don't know why the videos captured at the event look the way they do. That's the part we have absolutely no idea about.
Windom Earle
Member
Big difference in terms of IQ. So many jaggies and shimmering on PS4. Very apparent on the space station
Shiiiit. They'll probably think both versions look super good and not sweat the little stuff like most here do.
I already have the game, if I had the system I could tell immediately and post that shit here. Someone must be in a position to test this by now.
Thank you so much.
This could explain why Killzone SF has the same problem.
Following this video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CH5wzsYogYk
It seems to be at 720p.
These are two screeshot at the same zoom of a native BF3 1080p (left) and KZ (with artifact on the right).
I dunno because the multyplayer of COD ghost on PS4 is at 1080p native...
Chobel
Member
Definitely not downscaled, in that video CoD was rendered in 720p in both consoles.
Great summary.
This issue could be solved right now if a review site posts a 1080p video or screens of PS4 single player. Once that happens it is easy to tell if it is native 1080p or upscaled
If they reviewed the game running at 1080p native for both modes, I'm wondering why there isn't any journalist that noticed the resolutions differences between the game and the capture.
I could have swore the PS4 captures video at 720P...
Chobel
Member
Why didn't the reviewers question the weird visual similarity between Xbox One and PS4? Because there's no way a 1080p video will look like 720p video
Who?
upscaled to 1080p
Who?
One reviewer did didn't they? lol
Portugeezer
Member
Strange. Maybe it does have a native 720p mode if you set your TV to 720p?
Otherwise, the PS4 version is either 720p (at least the SP) or those are the same version...
Otherwise, the PS4 version is either 720p (at least the SP) or those are the same version...
plagiarize
Banned
That's not how these captures were done. Even if it was, they wouldn't look like this.
I thought it does. But if so, they should judge on what you see on an actual TV, not what is captured and shared to Facebook...
Polygon did. It went really well for them around here.
Sakura
Member
Even if the video is captured at 720p, the game should still internally be being rendered at 1080p, and thus not have the same level of aliasing. Or at least that's how I understand it.