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College Football Week 11 - Team of Destiny requires 3 OTs to beat 4-5 team
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Shit I was looking at unskewed Sagarin, my bad. :S
marathonfool
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ND won't beat USC, so it's moot.
outunderthestars
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Clemson dominates again, drops a spot. Florida barely escapes with a win against a Sunbelt team but stays in the same place.
FU AP.
FU AP.
Is there a B1G version of Finebaum? Because this needs some kind of generalization about burning couches, playing cornhole and eating bratwursts.
Caption this photo.
sonycowboy
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Harris Top 25: Gotta love to pollster that still wants Alabama #1
1 Oregon (90)
2 Kansas State (23)
3 Notre Dame (1)
4 Alabama (1)
5 Georgia
6 Florida State
7 Florida
8 LSU
9 Clemson
10 Texas A&M
11 South Carolina
12 Oklahoma
13 Stanford
14 Nebraska
15 Texas
16 Oregon State
17 Louisville
18 USC
19 UCLA
20 Louisiana Tech
21 Rutgers
22 Texas Tech
23 Boise State
24 Michigan
25 Mississippi State
1 Oregon (90)
2 Kansas State (23)
3 Notre Dame (1)
4 Alabama (1)
5 Georgia
6 Florida State
7 Florida
8 LSU
9 Clemson
10 Texas A&M
11 South Carolina
12 Oklahoma
13 Stanford
14 Nebraska
15 Texas
16 Oregon State
17 Louisville
18 USC
19 UCLA
20 Louisiana Tech
21 Rutgers
22 Texas Tech
23 Boise State
24 Michigan
25 Mississippi State
zyxwvu4321
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He's just getting ahead of the curve for the inevitable TAMU-Bama MNC game.
Had family this weekend, so wasn't able to stay on. Obviously watched the entire game.
Congrats to the Ags. Bama had chances to take the game at the end, and didn't get it done. Ags won fair and square. The Sumlin hire is looking like gold, right now.
Until either of them lose, I'm pulling for an Oregon / KSU matchup in the MNC. I think ND would get destroyed by either.
Congrats to the Ags. Bama had chances to take the game at the end, and didn't get it done. Ags won fair and square. The Sumlin hire is looking like gold, right now.
Until either of them lose, I'm pulling for an Oregon / KSU matchup in the MNC. I think ND would get destroyed by either.
If Finebaum has a vote, odds are it's him.
Pac-10 homer Jeff Sagarin
Battlezone
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Judging from those polls, they should just make "Eye Test" an official metric in the BCS and be done with it.
sonycowboy
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We've got 2 of the 3 components for the BCS rankings... Just no computer rankings other than Sagarin, so my computer rankings are very close to last weeks accounting for teams that lost or had a huge win...
aTm looks to be taking a huge leap with Clemson also taking a decent jump. I didnt' see Florida State's computer rankings jumping much, but they could easily be swapped with Clemson. Actually, from 8-12, I could see some significant variability based on the computers given that they're only .03 apart in my guesstimate. Finally, my computer averages are based on whole integers, whereas in the BCS they're the decimal value, so K-State could average a 1.6 on the computer ranking which would make a huge difference in the computer portion.
aTm looks to be taking a huge leap with Clemson also taking a decent jump. I didnt' see Florida State's computer rankings jumping much, but they could easily be swapped with Clemson. Actually, from 8-12, I could see some significant variability based on the computers given that they're only .03 apart in my guesstimate. Finally, my computer averages are based on whole integers, whereas in the BCS they're the decimal value, so K-State could average a 1.6 on the computer ranking which would make a huge difference in the computer portion.
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Rnk Team CoachPts CoachBCS Hrs Pts HrsBCS Comp CompBCS Total BCS Pvs
1 Kansas State 1427 0.9675 2774 0.9649 2 0.96 0.9641 2
2 Oregon 1460 0.9898 2844 0.9892 4 0.88 0.9530 3
3 Notre Dame 1346 0.9125 2634 0.9162 1 1 0.9429 4
4 Georgia 1260 0.8542 2393 0.8323 5 0.84 0.8422 5
5 Alabama 1243 0.8427 2494 0.8675 6 0.8 0.8367 1
6 Florida 1079 0.7315 2113 0.7350 3 0.92 0.7955 6
7 LSU 1040 0.7051 2082 0.7242 8 0.72 0.7164 7
8 Texas aTm 967 0.6556 1842 0.6407 7 0.76 0.6854 15
9 South Caroli 903 0.6122 1732 0.6024 9 0.68 0.6315 8
10 Clemson 1033 0.7003 1972 0.6859 15 0.44 0.6088 13
11 Florida Stat 1143 0.7749 2175 0.7565 19 0.28 0.6038 10
12 Oklahoma 799 0.5417 1631 0.5673 10 0.64 0.5830 12
13 Stanford 793 0.5376 1621 0.5638 11 0.6 0.5672 14
14 Nebraska 653 0.4427 1239 0.4310 13 0.52 0.4646 16
15 Texas 615 0.4169 1095 0.3809 14 0.48 0.4259 17
16 Oregon State 490 0.3322 1081 0.3760 12 0.56 0.4227 11
17 UCLA 494 0.3349 870 0.3026 16 0.4 0.3458 18I don't really see the need to wait. It's not like we have some amazing recruiting class to salvage or anything. Also I'll be able to take back to back games where UK/VU drop 40+ on us a little better when I know it'll all be over soon.
Regardless though, I don't see us making an impact hire/anything significantly better than a lateral move. I just honestly don't know how you fix this.
edit: That's Hubbs right? I'm calling bullshit. Even the media guys are calling it though, shit's over. Our shit AD needs to just put him down already.
Regardless though, I don't see us making an impact hire/anything significantly better than a lateral move. I just honestly don't know how you fix this.
edit: That's Hubbs right? I'm calling bullshit. Even the media guys are calling it though, shit's over. Our shit AD needs to just put him down already.
...Clemson ahead of FSU?
I hadn't noticed until your post that the computers like Clemson more than FSU. Can this all be chalked up to the bad NC State loss? Either way, it's fun to look at the disparity between the humans and the computers when it comes to the ACC.
Lots of money is really the only way at this point. Make someone turn down 5-6 million a year.
It would indeed be shocking if the BCS put one team ahead of another team that had beaten it. This would be unprecedented.
Checking the previous rankings, the computers had them even at 0.200 in Week 10, then Clemson ahead 0.360 to 0.240 in Week 11.
Well, at least a GIF came out of yesterday's Northwestern fallout to Michigan.
Coach Fitzgerald celebrating a late hit call.
What the hell? I didn't watch the game so can you give a little explanation of why he's so "excited?"
sonycowboy
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A few tweets from Brad Edwards:
http://twitter.com/JBradEdwards/status/267739534219948032 - Definitely RT @DOCarroll1 u still think computers put KSU at #1 in BCS?
http://twitter.com/JBradEdwards/status/267736281746927617- I'm surprised by Bama's huge Harris lead on UGA. Thought voters would be swayed by momentum. Tide should be BCS No. 4
http://twitter.com/JBradEdwards/status/267739534219948032 - Definitely RT @DOCarroll1 u still think computers put KSU at #1 in BCS?
http://twitter.com/JBradEdwards/status/267736281746927617- I'm surprised by Bama's huge Harris lead on UGA. Thought voters would be swayed by momentum. Tide should be BCS No. 4
NEOPARADIGM
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Was a pretty big play; 3rd and long and led to a go-ahead score late iirc.
Azwethinkweiz
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It probably helps us that our loss was against a top 10 BCS ranked team and their loss was against...well...you know.
There is no way to logically argue that Clemson should be ranked ahead of FSU. Neither should be ranked particularly high, but still. You can't argue how good the losses are when Clemson's loss is against FSU.
Because the heroic voters in these polls agree that we're more awesome than K-State. Suck it, defense! Suck it, SEC sheep!
I just don't see K-State beating us unless they can stop our running game AND our passing. I can see them holding back Barner and Thomas but Mariota is such a better passer than Darron Thomas, which makes us a lot more dangerous than we were in 2010. Yes, teams can prepare to stop our run, but our passing is just as good. Cal demonstrated last night that stopping one but not the other still results in our offense getting 50+ points.
Our defense is an issue right now, but it has a lot to do with injuries. Most of them should be back in soon I would think.
Yep. Our strategy two years ago (fake injuries aside) was to stop the run at all costs, and make Thomas have to go to the air. It damn near succeeded (college kickers lol).
We did the same thing in last night's game, and Mariota destroyed us. Dude is a legit QB.
He was scurred of Marriota.
Azwethinkweiz
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I'm not arguing anything. I'm explaining how the BCS calculation would put us ahead of FSU. We don't even know if the posted BCS rankings are accurate.
TheNatural
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I hope La Tech somehow gets into a BCS game. I mean, they gave A&M a better game than Bama did. $10 mil of BCS money going to a defunct conference full of FBS startups, instead of one of the PAC 12 or Big 12 would be due justice.
How do you lose a game then still have a first-place vote? HOW??? I mean damn.
Exactly... wat
sonycowboy
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read people... They aren't accurate... They're a guesstimate based on where I think the computer rankings could fall and what that means for the overall BCS. We don't get the true rankings until 8:30PM EST.
What I could say is that if Clemson is ahead of FSU by more that 3.6 spots in the computers, then Clemson will be ahead of FSU in the BCS rankings. For week 10, Clemson was ahead by exactly 3.0 points in the computers. And Louisville and Oregon State lost who were ahead of both in the computers (Oregon State was 8th in the computers and Louisville was 13th)
Because Clemson lost to FSU on the road. Clemson would beat FSU at a neutral site.
I've heard that his family was struggling and he wanted a way to support them. I dunno. I guess he's in the Canadian league now.
The computers are not going to account for every head-to-head matchup when determining rankings, and losing to a 9-1 team doesn't look as bad as losing to a 6-3 team.
As far as the humans go, there weren't any other games on Thursday, so everyone had a chance to watch FSU narrowly escape Virginia Tech this week.
It's a question of whether you are ranking the teams as "best season" or "best team right now". LSU had some awful games against Towson and Auburn, but I'd still pick them to beat FSU. Human pollsters seem governed by inertia: they usually will not drop a team unless they lose (or a team below them has a much bigger win). Personally I would like to see the computers have a bigger say in the rankings so long as their formulas were more transparent. They at least aren't slaves to the preseason rankings and the "eye test", whatever that means.
bucknuticus
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So Wisc has opened as a 1.5 pt favorite over OSU this weekend. Uhhhh wut.
NEOPARADIGM
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You forget that OT game with Purdont and those 95 points you allowed to Indiana? Sounds about right to me.
bucknuticus
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Past few weeks defense has been playing lights out and this team has not had an issue with teams who like to line up and run it right at ya. See Michigan St game. Not to mention Wisc has been pretty bad are are starting a backup qb. Not to mention Wisc lost to UNL who we obliterated and lost to sparty as well. Wisc has yet to beat any good or even average teams.
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