SoRuffShoNuff
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The cops should have just left them alone. A free dinner isn't changing anyone's opinion of the policing system.
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Cops make surprising gesture when couple refuses to sit near them
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The cops should have just left them alone. A free dinner isn't changing anyone's opinion of the policing system.
i feel like this tweet can't be re-posted enough
Would a march do anything though? Would it not be seen as patronizing as well?
Real change would be something like a police force choosing not to carry firearms on patrol.
wesleyshark
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What exactly would that change
They'd have to take their time and effort to beat/strangle people to death.
Gotdatmoney
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And the people that didn't wanna sit near the cops should be passive aggressively told to stfu about police brutality and misconduct because these cops specifically "might" not be part of it?
This is a pointless argument. Maybe they didn't want to sit near the police because they had an arrest warrant. Who the fuck knows? If the police feel slighted by people's perception of their institution then do better to win the publics trust.
Police are not individuals when its convenient and an institution when its convenient.
They're part of a racist, oppressive organization. You join the KKK or the crips decades after their worst crimes have been committed doesn't mean you get to just waltz around like your shit still doesn't stink. It comes from the territory of walking in shit that has been building up for decades.
Ray Wonder
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wesleyshark
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Can't tell if sarcasm......
Did I stutter?
Subpar Spatula
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It's a joke because it seems any kind gesture a police officer does is PR.
wesleyshark
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You're broad stroking the police in comparison to the KKK or the Crips? Honestly can't tell if you're being serious.
Yeah I'm sorry. The crips don't get away with murder as much as the cops do.
backflip10019
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Holy shit, the delusion in this thread.
TheLetdown
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If there's vitriol and jaded responses to this, it's because there has been a pattern of abuse of trust by police as an institution, a singular unit.
This is the consequence of the "blue shield" or "blue wall of silence" that is demonstrably in effect today. It's either ALL COPS or it's NOT ALL COPS. Not speaking out against bad policing is picking a side.
It's either HAVE CAKE or EAT CAKE.
This is the consequence of the "blue shield" or "blue wall of silence" that is demonstrably in effect today. It's either ALL COPS or it's NOT ALL COPS. Not speaking out against bad policing is picking a side.
It's either HAVE CAKE or EAT CAKE.
Caayn
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The US is seriously fucked up right now.
And a march would fix things? As a silly European I would say that it's better to try to change people minds by good deeds (such as having fun with the people) and acts of generosity than the to try to forcibly get their attention with a march.i feel like this tweet can't be re-posted enough
water_wendi
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Unfortunately there is nothing that can happen that will change the course America is on.
Those good deeds mean jack shit when you can be shot at a traffic stop for looking the part so yes you sound silly. People marching like they have and being in other people's faces about the inequality and racism built into the systems that are supposed to protect people is the only reason we're having these conversations now. They want to act generously? Stop racial profiling and treating minorities like they're all potential targets. A march with large numbers of cops wouldn't be bad either and at least show some solidarity with other people than their fellow police officers.
Liu Kang Baking A Pie
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We've been asking cops to show us they're good by standing up for racial justice, not by dunking on my son.
That's totally unfair and unproductive. Did these cops murder anyone? Do you think cops aren't individuals?
What would be the point of a cop without a firearm when the citizens can be armed? Let's be realistic here.
Not if it was genuine it wouldn't.
I think the main thing keeping police from speaking out against corruption and brutality in their department is the "blue code" and intimidation from fellow officers. If police made a public effort of calling out brutality, then I think other cops would be encouraged to do the same
KanameYuuki
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So do those cops have a record of doing bad things? If so I can understand the outrage of some of you about "paying their bill doesn't change the fact about them (cops as a whole) trying to cover up their crimes". They are just trying to alleviate the tension that is increasing between both civilians and cops, seems that US media and some movements are trying to create a greater rift between them, making more likely chances of a cop committing a mistake while on duty due to stress.
As far as I'm aware most if not all of these cops who have done such horrible acts have been punished on a way, so it's not like they are getting medals from shooting people, so yeah not all cops are bad because of a rotten fruit, if so, then shouldn't we all demonize all of the current ideologies/religions/groups just because they have some radicals within them?
As far as I'm aware most if not all of these cops who have done such horrible acts have been punished on a way, so it's not like they are getting medals from shooting people, so yeah not all cops are bad because of a rotten fruit, if so, then shouldn't we all demonize all of the current ideologies/religions/groups just because they have some radicals within them?
Liu Kang Baking A Pie
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Can you name some of these punished cops for us?
wesleyshark
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And when cops do the right thing and support protests and marches, they get shot at by a lunatic with a rifle in Dallas.
Liu Kang Baking A Pie
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What does this have to do with anything? What logical connection are you trying to make here?
wesleyshark
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Sadly, you're probably right. It's the unfortunate reality. Not that we shouldn't try regardless.
So you're saying they are going to be shot for doing the right thing? What are you talking about?
Stormhammer
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i don't think you can stutter while typing, tbh imo
but i mean, its only fair the police get painted with a broad brush as the people killed by said police officers are normally painted with a broad brush before death or after
i believe love will overcome
Love ain't doing anything to fix the situation and its naive to think otherwise.
KanameYuuki
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Is this a good list Here Are All of the Cops Who Were Charged in 2015 for Shooting Suspects
Maybe this one http://www.policemisconduct.net/
The Maverick
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1. The cops in the picture are from a department with a long and complicated history with race.
2. There is tension because of over-militarized police, profiling, police brutality, etc. Solve that and we solve the tension.
3. Define punished. Because we wouldn't be having this thread if punishment was doled out accordingly with horrible acts.
4. #NotAllCops are rotten, but there is a damn fine job done by police departments top-down of dodging transparency and refusing to call out these "rotten fruit". Where does complicity begin and end?
Side note: this thread went exactly how I'd expect the 10 pages to go.
Liu Kang Baking A Pie
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This is "charged." You said punished. Few punishments in here. Do you get it now?
This article doesn't really help convince others of the case of cops being punished. I think the big take away from this article is how short the list of charged officers really is. This quote is pretty damning:
i feel like this tweet can't be re-posted enough
I want to agree, but honestly If i can see cops admiting there IS a problem and getting behind reform those are the guys I want to commend.
If i see them posting stuff like this:
Id be very happy. A lot needs to change.
Alex Stroud
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Trickling?
Gotdatmoney
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Lolol. Okay it's clear you don't have any actual point to make if this is your argument.
Spring-Loaded
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If this has no relation to killings by police, then this isn't newsworthy beyond the parties directly involved and people should quit propping this up as some proof that cops can be good in the wake of these killings.
Bel Marduk
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ONE WEIRD TRICK TO GET FREE FOOD.
wesleyshark
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THEY THREW SHADE. COPS THREW IT BACK.
The dam broke since that post...
they paid cash actually, says so in the article.
though with the way america is carrying on, i wouldn't be surprised to see "blood of the innocents" become at least as widely accepted as apple pay.
Spring-Loaded
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Most cops are good people working in a corrupt system that is in need of reform. They would do a lot for their public perception by rising up together and protesting with the people (like DPD) and showing their solidarity with the public they are sworn to serve. Small gestures, while understandable in their intent, won't solve the bigger problem.
I agree, to an extent. Articles like this are typically propped up (in particular) by right wing news sites and the usual suspects on social media that "totally aren't racist", yet seemingly find a way to justify that anybody shot by the cops had it coming to them - tenfold if it's a minority. It's the bastardization of a good deed for partisan mindshare.
That said, completely ignoring such stories doesn't serve us either. We need more stories about all people doing good things, whether they're cops, black people, white people, men, women, politicians, deli counter attendants - whatever. There is plenty of bad news out there, and it's nice to hear something that isn't every once in a while. Sure, it could be argued that the execution wasn't perfect, but nothing is.
DontBeThatGuy
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Do most cops want reform, or acknowledge a corrupt system, or are they Harry J. Houck?
Spring-Loaded
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Sure, but the act can't be divorced from its context. The passive aggression of the note (either dictated/influenced by the police or solely from the worker) and the lack of addressing the validity of not wanting to bear near officers in America makes the act suspect. And many people can't give police the benefit of the doubt here anymore, for good reason.
brotherbean
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It's a sad indicator of just how bad things have gotten when the simple gesture of buying someone's meal is treated with this much apprehension and disapproval.
I'm feeling kind of weird that my first reaction was "Oh that's nice.", which unfortunately I think says a lot about my privileged position in American society.
I'm feeling kind of weird that my first reaction was "Oh that's nice.", which unfortunately I think says a lot about my privileged position in American society.
trikster40
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The tip was for the couple's tab, so unless they ate $50 worth of foodie a small restaurant, that's a nice tip.
EdibleKnife
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Charged is not the same as convicted which would actually be justice. In fact in several cases, charges are thrown out or dropped by the judges once they go to trial. Just as an example, Peter Liang, who is on that list, was facing 15 years. But the Judge called the shooting an accident due to a plea from a prosecutor and he's not facing any jail time. Please double check on some of these cases yourself to see that things aren't so simple. Because this isn't even a full and complete list
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