***WARNING: Even if your discs from the mentioned time period below look fine, with no bronzing, they could still be defective. The only way to know for sure is to scan the entire disc. Please see my "Edit 2" for more information on this.***
I posted this in the community thread but I'm gonna post it here to see if any of you have ever seen this with ANY Blu-ray before. This is way, way, way too early to be happening already. This is ridiculous.
Guys, it's time to bust our your older Criterion Collection Blu-ray titles and check on them to see if they still work or not. I am beyond pissed off at this. Earlier tonight I saw some people mentioning that certain titles from late 2009 to mid 2010 are already going bad. It's some sort of weird production screwup that is causing a browning/bronzing across the disc that either causes skipping, screwing up entire chapters, or just flat out kills the discs entirely, preventing them from even loading at all.
I hate to say that I have horrible news. I just went through all of my titles and I found six that have noticeable browning/bronzing.
The titles included here are from my personal collection, and these are the ones I have found so far that are afflicted with this issue. The titles are...
-M (2010, first printing)
-Monsoon Wedding (2009, first printing)
-Paris, Texas (2009, first printing)
-Summer Hours (2010, first printing)
-Walkabout (2010, first printing)
None of the above titles will load in any Blu-ray player that I own. They are all completely and totally dead Blu-ray discs now. My copy of Days of Heaven (2010, first printing) also has the the browning/bronzing effect that is starting to show up, but as of right now that disc will still load in my player and I can fast forward through the entire movie.
What are the others that I need to check? I discovered the above only by doing a quick visual inspection. I haven't tested any other titles without noticeable browning/bronzing. Have any of you guys had any that didn't work but did not have a physical flaw?
I am beyond ticked off about this. I have five titles that flat out no longer load, one that is likely going to end up like this, and who knows on some of the other titles I have. I have tons of Criterion discs, and this is incredibly worrying to me.
In addition to the ones I mentioned above, some of the other titles mentioned with this problem are Howards End, Pierrot le fou, Ride With the Devil, and Stagecoach. This is even more damaging for Howards End and Pierrot le fou since those are now totally out of print (OOP).
Here are some pictures I took of the ones that will no longer play...
EDIT 1:
Here is a list put together by someone of all of the discs released during the window in question. This does not mean that all of these are bad, or other titles couldn't also be affected. It's just for reference...
Discs already noted to have issues are starred with an asterisk (*):
*Stagecoach (The Criterion Collection) Criterion May 25, 2010
By Brakhage: An Anthology, Volumes One and Two (The Criterion Collection) Criterion May 25, 2010
*Walkabout (The Criterion Collection) Criterion May 18, 2010
*M (The Criterion Collection) Criterion May 11, 2010
*Ride with the Devil (The Criterion Collection) Criterion Apr 27, 2010
Vivre Sa Vie (My Life to Live / The Criterion Collection) Criterion Apr 20, 2010
*Summer Hours (L'heure d'été / The Criterion Collection) Criterion Apr 20, 2010
*Days of Heaven (The Criterion Collection) Criterion Mar 23, 2010
Yojimbo (Yôjinbô / 用心棒 | The Criterion Collection) Criterion Mar 23, 2010
Sanjuro (Tsubaki Sanjûrô / 椿三十郎 | The Criterion Collection) Criterion Mar 23, 2010
Yojimbo / Sanjuro (用心棒 / 椿三十郎 | The Criterion Collection) Criterion Mar 23, 2010
Bigger Than Life (The Criterion Collection) Criterion Mar 23, 2010
Lola Montès (The Criterion Collection) Criterion Feb 16, 2010
Hunger (The Criterion Collection) Criterion Feb 16, 2010
Revanche (The Criterion Collection) Criterion Feb 16, 2010
*Paris, Texas (The Criterion Collection) Criterion Jan 26, 2010
Che (The Criterion Collection) Criterion Jan 19, 2010
8½ (Federico Fellini's 8½ / The Criterion Collection) Criterion Jan 12, 2010
A Christmas Tale (Un conte de Noël / The Criterion Collection) Criterion Dec 01, 2009
Gimme Shelter (The Rolling Stones / The Criterion Collection) Criterion Dec 01, 2009
Gomorrah (The Criterion Collection / Gomorra) Criterion Nov 24, 2009
*Howards End (The Criterion Collection) Criterion Nov 03, 2009
Wings of Desire (Der Himmel über Berlin / The Criterion Collection) Criterion Nov 03, 2009
*Monsoon Wedding (The Criterion Collection) Criterion Oct 20, 2009
The Complete Monterey Pop Festival (The Criterion Collection) Criterion Sep 22, 2009
*Pierrot le fou (The Criterion Collection) Criterion Sep 22, 2009
Monterey Pop (The Criterion Collection) Criterion Sep 22, 2009
Jimi Plays Monterey & Shake! Otis at Monterey (The Criterion Collection) Criterion Sep 22, 2009
EDIT 2:
Ok, it's official, my Gomorrah is screwed up as well!!!
The disc doesn't have any visual flaws at all, no bronzing whatsoever. The disc also loads just fine, the menu comes up, and it starts to play. I tested it by letting it play for a few minutes, and when I had no issues I hit the fast forward button for a while. I watched closely and noticed it would freeze for a couple of seconds and my machine would make a weird noise. I would rewind back, play around where it would stall, and sure enough it freezes and skips that entire section. This seems to be happening at a number of times on my disc.
I'm not going to go through each one minute by minute just to test them, but if it happens a single time on any of the discs in this time period then I'm requesting a replacement for them.
This is flat out ridiculous, ugh.
Why does this have to be Criterion? Out of all of the companies this could happen to, why them?
I posted this in the community thread but I'm gonna post it here to see if any of you have ever seen this with ANY Blu-ray before. This is way, way, way too early to be happening already. This is ridiculous.
Guys, it's time to bust our your older Criterion Collection Blu-ray titles and check on them to see if they still work or not. I am beyond pissed off at this. Earlier tonight I saw some people mentioning that certain titles from late 2009 to mid 2010 are already going bad. It's some sort of weird production screwup that is causing a browning/bronzing across the disc that either causes skipping, screwing up entire chapters, or just flat out kills the discs entirely, preventing them from even loading at all.
I hate to say that I have horrible news. I just went through all of my titles and I found six that have noticeable browning/bronzing.
The titles included here are from my personal collection, and these are the ones I have found so far that are afflicted with this issue. The titles are...
-M (2010, first printing)
-Monsoon Wedding (2009, first printing)
-Paris, Texas (2009, first printing)
-Summer Hours (2010, first printing)
-Walkabout (2010, first printing)
None of the above titles will load in any Blu-ray player that I own. They are all completely and totally dead Blu-ray discs now. My copy of Days of Heaven (2010, first printing) also has the the browning/bronzing effect that is starting to show up, but as of right now that disc will still load in my player and I can fast forward through the entire movie.
What are the others that I need to check? I discovered the above only by doing a quick visual inspection. I haven't tested any other titles without noticeable browning/bronzing. Have any of you guys had any that didn't work but did not have a physical flaw?
I am beyond ticked off about this. I have five titles that flat out no longer load, one that is likely going to end up like this, and who knows on some of the other titles I have. I have tons of Criterion discs, and this is incredibly worrying to me.
In addition to the ones I mentioned above, some of the other titles mentioned with this problem are Howards End, Pierrot le fou, Ride With the Devil, and Stagecoach. This is even more damaging for Howards End and Pierrot le fou since those are now totally out of print (OOP).
Here are some pictures I took of the ones that will no longer play...
EDIT 1:
Here is a list put together by someone of all of the discs released during the window in question. This does not mean that all of these are bad, or other titles couldn't also be affected. It's just for reference...
Discs already noted to have issues are starred with an asterisk (*):
*Stagecoach (The Criterion Collection) Criterion May 25, 2010
By Brakhage: An Anthology, Volumes One and Two (The Criterion Collection) Criterion May 25, 2010
*Walkabout (The Criterion Collection) Criterion May 18, 2010
*M (The Criterion Collection) Criterion May 11, 2010
*Ride with the Devil (The Criterion Collection) Criterion Apr 27, 2010
Vivre Sa Vie (My Life to Live / The Criterion Collection) Criterion Apr 20, 2010
*Summer Hours (L'heure d'été / The Criterion Collection) Criterion Apr 20, 2010
*Days of Heaven (The Criterion Collection) Criterion Mar 23, 2010
Yojimbo (Yôjinbô / 用心棒 | The Criterion Collection) Criterion Mar 23, 2010
Sanjuro (Tsubaki Sanjûrô / 椿三十郎 | The Criterion Collection) Criterion Mar 23, 2010
Yojimbo / Sanjuro (用心棒 / 椿三十郎 | The Criterion Collection) Criterion Mar 23, 2010
Bigger Than Life (The Criterion Collection) Criterion Mar 23, 2010
Lola Montès (The Criterion Collection) Criterion Feb 16, 2010
Hunger (The Criterion Collection) Criterion Feb 16, 2010
Revanche (The Criterion Collection) Criterion Feb 16, 2010
*Paris, Texas (The Criterion Collection) Criterion Jan 26, 2010
Che (The Criterion Collection) Criterion Jan 19, 2010
8½ (Federico Fellini's 8½ / The Criterion Collection) Criterion Jan 12, 2010
A Christmas Tale (Un conte de Noël / The Criterion Collection) Criterion Dec 01, 2009
Gimme Shelter (The Rolling Stones / The Criterion Collection) Criterion Dec 01, 2009
Gomorrah (The Criterion Collection / Gomorra) Criterion Nov 24, 2009
*Howards End (The Criterion Collection) Criterion Nov 03, 2009
Wings of Desire (Der Himmel über Berlin / The Criterion Collection) Criterion Nov 03, 2009
*Monsoon Wedding (The Criterion Collection) Criterion Oct 20, 2009
The Complete Monterey Pop Festival (The Criterion Collection) Criterion Sep 22, 2009
*Pierrot le fou (The Criterion Collection) Criterion Sep 22, 2009
Monterey Pop (The Criterion Collection) Criterion Sep 22, 2009
Jimi Plays Monterey & Shake! Otis at Monterey (The Criterion Collection) Criterion Sep 22, 2009
EDIT 2:
Ok, it's official, my Gomorrah is screwed up as well!!!
The disc doesn't have any visual flaws at all, no bronzing whatsoever. The disc also loads just fine, the menu comes up, and it starts to play. I tested it by letting it play for a few minutes, and when I had no issues I hit the fast forward button for a while. I watched closely and noticed it would freeze for a couple of seconds and my machine would make a weird noise. I would rewind back, play around where it would stall, and sure enough it freezes and skips that entire section. This seems to be happening at a number of times on my disc.
I'm not going to go through each one minute by minute just to test them, but if it happens a single time on any of the discs in this time period then I'm requesting a replacement for them.
This is flat out ridiculous, ugh.
Why does this have to be Criterion? Out of all of the companies this could happen to, why them?