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DA4 will celebrate diversity - narrative lead motives questioned after questionable tweets

Ovek

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Is one of the female companions going to be fat, have purple hair and drone on about the “problematic” events of the inquisition?

In all seriousness though I wouldn’t even mind if it was written well... but it’s BioWare and their writing output has been schlocky at best for years.

Funny, the game is years away and I can already sense the train derailing. Perhaps they should start with getting the facial animations right before thinking about skin color.

Anthem is using the new face animation tech that Mass Effact Andromeda was supposed to use, even in the state Anthem is in at the moment the face animations are really quite good.
 

Guileless

Temp Banned for Remedial Purposes
Just curious, is The Times a right-leaning magazine?

Solidly neoliberal and deeply Establishmentarian. Liberal on social policy, more conservative fiscally. Liddle is by far its most idiosyncratic columnist.
 

Helios

Member
No no. We must all be triggered and butthurt because the game doesn't have an exclusively white cast and then we must insinuate that everyone who doesn't agree with us are sensitive snowflakes.
What do you accomplish by making a strawman out of 5 pages worth of discussion? Seriously, it only makes you sound like a children.
 

anthraticus

Banned
Good thing Obsidian is leaving the cheesy romancing stuff out of Outer Worlds.

Dexs like Bioware trying to appeal to lonley nerds and their pathetic love life fantasies is cringe city.
 

Hendrick's

If only my penis was as big as my GamerScore!
They need to focus on making a good game before trying to shoehorn diversity in. This franchise is doomed.
 

Singular7

Member
Still waiting for incest to get a fair share of the diversity market.

Judgmenti-ness still too strong, and frankly, it's getting a little too 2018 for me.

Freedom only will happen when all forms of sex are acceptable without question.
 
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Silent Duck

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I remember when video games and game announcements brought me joy, like a kid in anticipation of Christmas and Santa.
But now every game announcement is bringing feelings of dread, like Christmas and Krampus.

We get shit like Street Fighter V, Battlefront 2, Ass Effect: Andromeda (and pretty much any Bioware title these days). Every announcement brings new disgusting business practices and agenda shoveling. Maybe it was always there... maybe I was too naive to see it before, but these days every announcement is filled with this garbage.

“Here’s our awesome fighting game... for $90 extra dollars you can almost have a complete roster... and maybe alternate costume colors for a little extra”. -SFV (and pretty much most fighting games released in the last 10 years)

“Diversity! Diversity! Diversity! And after a few patches, you might be able to create a white person... but the bugs will remain.” -Mass Effect Andromeda

“We want t be inclusive as possible, so expect to be regularly harrased by a gay elf, or klingon rip off.” - Any Dragon Age game after the first one

I’m about ready to say screw this crap and go entirely into my “safe space” of retro gaming and Pac Man.

Ahhhh... blissful ignorance. How I long to recapture thee... Wait, what? “Recapture” is too aggressive? I need blissful ignorance’s consent now? Fuck this this world...
 

hyperbertha

Member
Diversity is great and political messaging is great if its a positive messege but I just can't help thinking it's often so hamfistivly shoehorned into games that it ends up not working as it should.

When it is done well like the gay guy in The Last of Us its great and natural,cos he's just a gay guy in the game and that's that.Ellies gay as well of course and that's just as natural cos again she's just a gay girl....big deal,lol.

If EA can push these issues(which are important)into their games seemlessly then that's all good,no one needs to be upset by diversity.....I don't think they have the chops to do it if Battlefield V is any indication.
There was a gay guy in the last of us?
 

royox

Member
There was a gay guy in the last of us?


And THAT'S how you know he's a well built gay character. There are enought hints to learn that (mainly when Ellie finds his gay porn) and none of those are him yelling "I'm gay btw!"

On the other side of the coin we have Bioware characters yelling here and there "I'm gay and my family hates me!!", "My husband just died and I'm so sad MaleShepard but let's bang just because you were a bit friendly with me", "This dude here is a trans!!!" "I'm Bi btw wanna ride the bull?!!" making every situation akward and antinatural.
 
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hargwood

Banned
BioWare lost all their competent developers and replaced them with diversity hires. They now make shit tier games and their only selling point is look how inclusive we are.

CDProjektRed the new king of western RPG's. I will also watch Warhorse Studios career with great interest.

 
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Man this thread almost made me want to open an account on Resetera.....but then I remembered how shitty it is as well....

Like what are you so mad about exactly? Are you going to get triggered every time words like 'inclusive' or 'diversity' are uttered? How are you going to try and shame those crazies at Era for their overreactions if you are just the same in the end?

I don't even care about Dragon Age but this thread is a bad look. This is just Reverse Resetera to be honest. wow
 
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Thiagosc777

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Man this thread almost made me want to open an account on Resetera.....but then I remembered how shitty it is as well....

Like what are you so mad about exactly? Are you going to get triggered every time words like 'inclusive' or 'diversity' are uttered? How are you going to try and shame those crazies at Era for their overreactions if you are just the same in the end?

I don't even care about Dragon Age but this thread is a bad look. This is just Reverse Resetera to be honest. wow

Stop projecting your own emotions onto others. The only one "triggered" here is you, who is acting all indignant.

We are just commenting on what the developers are saying. Is this forbidden? This certainly affects the quality of the product and it is something consumers should take into consideration when purchasing games. As a consumer, I want to know as much as possible before giving my money to these companies.
 

lefty1117

Gold Member
Stop projecting your own emotions onto others. The only one "triggered" here is you, who is acting all indignant.

We are just commenting on what the developers are saying. Is this forbidden? This certainly affects the quality of the product and it is something consumers should take into consideration when purchasing games. As a consumer, I want to know as much as possible before giving my money to these companies.

Lots of the thread responses here seem angry at a focus on diversity, but truth be told most of the BW games have had a measure of diversity so not really sure what the problem is here. I agree with previous poster that said this thread is a bad look for some people ... if you're angry with them discussing diversity in their games, I suggest some soul searching to get to the root of what your real problem is because the world is made up of all kinds of different people.
 

Thiagosc777

Member
Lots of the thread responses here seem angry at a focus on diversity, but truth be told most of the BW games have had a measure of diversity so not really sure what the problem is here. I agree with previous poster that said this thread is a bad look for some people ... if you're angry with them discussing diversity in their games, I suggest some soul searching to get to the root of what your real problem is because the world is made up of all kinds of different people.

I said, stop projecting you anger onto others.

Maybe you should reread the thread then, and finally understand what is being said.
 
I really hope they'll just make a good game, I still can't bring myself to finish Dragon Age Inquisition, it has just a tedious gameplay loop....
 

royox

Member
Man this thread almost made me want to open an account on Resetera.....but then I remembered how shitty it is as well....

Like what are you so mad about exactly? Are you going to get triggered every time words like 'inclusive' or 'diversity' are uttered? How are you going to try and shame those crazies at Era for their overreactions if you are just the same in the end?

I don't even care about Dragon Age but this thread is a bad look. This is just Reverse Resetera to be honest. wow


The user was Banned for this post (duration pending): Pushing false narratives , inflammatory drive-by post, low post count, Junior account
 

Silent Duck

Member
"Mass Effect never did until 3"

That is incorrect...



I've played the whole series and the whole series has the option, some are a bit limited like 1, but it is actually still in the game.

I had entirely different problems with Mass Effect 3. The technical issues were insane for months. Like not being able to correctly import your character, despite the back of the box stating “Finish the fight with YOUR Shepard”. The quest breaking bugs. The poor quest and inventory system. The shlocky (even by video game standard) writing.
I had no problem with the end... I never played all the way it to the end. The bugs were enough for me to trade it in.
My ending for Mass Effect 3 was the Normandy crashing into the used game bin at Gamestop. Where the crew waits for some unsuspecting player to bring them home. Like cursed artifacts lying in wait for another victim.
I will give Bioware their props though. There was diversity. The bugs and glitches were very diverse and plentiful. :messenger_clapping::messenger_poop:
 

Shai-Tan

Banned
I had entirely different problems with Mass Effect 3. The technical issues were insane for months. Like not being able to correctly import your character, despite the back of the box stating “Finish the fight with YOUR Shepard”. The quest breaking bugs. The poor quest and inventory system. The shlocky (even by video game standard) writing.
I had no problem with the end... I never played all the way it to the end. The bugs were enough for me to trade it in.
My ending for Mass Effect 3 was the Normandy crashing into the used game bin at Gamestop. Where the crew waits for some unsuspecting player to bring them home. Like cursed artifacts lying in wait for another victim.
I will give Bioware their props though. There was diversity. The bugs and glitches were very diverse and plentiful. :messenger_clapping::messenger_poop:

By the time I played ME3 it was fine. I can't say I liked it as much as ME2 but the problems with it afflict a lot of sci fi (build up a mystery that doesn't deliver on reveal). The Expanse tv show suffers from many of the same problems in its third season. Anyway to tie it back to the thread this hypersensitivity to "wokeness" has led to a kind of monomania in criticism
 
Stop projecting your own emotions onto others. The only one "triggered" here is you, who is acting all indignant.

We are just commenting on what the developers are saying. Is this forbidden? This certainly affects the quality of the product and it is something consumers should take into consideration when purchasing games. As a consumer, I want to know as much as possible before giving my money to these companies.
Projecting my own emotions? Lmao. Is that the best you can do? I don't give a shit about Dragon Age. I've never played a game in the franchise but I've played other Bioware games and even though I'm kind of indifferent towards it, 'inclusiveness' is nothing new for them yet there are some seriously butthurt people in this thread and I just wonder why.

Most of the reactions here are no different from the type you could find on Era when a new game is announced and they find out there's no woman or minority in the forefront. Most of the times they are also just 'commenting' on what the developers said or did yet it doesn't stop people from rightfully mocking them, calling them out, complaining about them, etc....don't be crying now because I said people reactions in this thread are similar to the ones they complain about all the time. Don't dish out what you can't take

Also nobody is trying to prevent you from commenting. I just gave my opinion on the thread. If it makes your butt itch find someone else to scratch it. I'm not interested.
 
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Thiagosc777

Member
Projecting my own emotions? Lmao. Is that the best you can do? I don't give a shit about Dragon Age. I've never played a game in the franchise but I've played other Bioware games and even though I'm kind of indifferent towards it, 'inclusiveness' is nothing new for them yet there are some seriously butthurt people in this thread and I just wonder why.

Most of the reactions here are no different from the type you could find on Era when a new game is announced and they find out there's no woman or minority in the forefront. Most of the times they are also just 'commenting' on what the developers said or did yet it doesn't stop people to rightfully mock them, call them out, complain about them, etc....don't be crying now because I said people reactions in this thread are similar to the ones they complain about all the time. Don't dish out what you can't take

Also nobody is trying to prevent you from commenting. I just gave my opinion on the thread. If it makes your butt itch find someone else to scratch it. I'm not interested.

Instead of sweeping generalizations, be productive. Who said what and when? And explain how that is wrong. Be specific. Make a point. If all you want is to rant, then please move on. You already got it out of your chest, now have a nice day!
 
I loved Dragon Age Inquisition and the Mass Effect games. Bioware's strength lies in character writing. In that aspect, they are way better than the characters in games from Bethesda/Blizzard/Bungie/etc.

Storytelling in games remain a massive hit and miss, and the bar has been set high by The Witcher 3 which just is on a completely different level.

I also think that Bioware are good about adding diversity in their games in a way that makes sense. Inquisition had many interesting characters with unique backgrounds. Why anyone would get so triggered by feeling that SJW policies are being pushed down their throat because a character has a background story rooted in something progressive, is beyond me. Like jeez. You know the size of a man by the things that bother him. Do you really wanna be a hypocrite who is knee jerked by liberals whining, but at the same time you can't fucking handle that there are gay or trans characters without it ruining your games? Hypocrite dipshits.

Tell better stories. Make better characters. Doesn't make a fucking difference if that character is a trans elf or a black dwarf. Compelling characters are compelling characters. That is the end of it. Anything else is just having an axe to grind for no good fucking reason. DAI is not pushing token minority characters as part of its roster. And the diversity of many characters like Dorian, Krem and Iron Bull was more like extra background drops rather than pushed in their face. That was good progress for BW who stumbled a lot more in DA2 with characters like Anders who would get angry at you for not following his advances.

But why anyone would take BWs diversity is the key reason for BW games problems is fucking stupid. Diversity is the least of Biowares problems. If you can exhibit critical thinking it should be self-evident to you that diversity is not the problem here. Its lack of better writers. Its lack of consequential storytelling and choice. Its too wide a scope for the game they are making. It is tired fantasy tropes. And Bioware, even as disappointing as they have been with games like Andromeda, are still among the top storytellers in gaming. Which tells you all you need to know about the state of storytelling in AAA games. That it is overall garbage. Bungie, Blizzard, and Bethesda games all tout their stories as being great and "epic" but in reality so much of it so fucking shit and have been since way before diversity was even a heated topic in gaming. So maybe fuck off with this snowflake manbaby cry shit and actually direct the critique where it is warranted.
 

Floyd

Member
Give me all the diversity you want just drop the inoffensive politically correct story narratives. It's fucking boring.
 

Thiagosc777

Member
Tell better stories. Make better characters. Doesn't make a fucking difference if that character is a trans elf or a black dwarf. Compelling characters are compelling characters. That is the end of it. Anything else is just having an axe to grind for no good fucking reason. DAI is not pushing token minority characters as part of its roster. And the diversity of many characters like Dorian, Krem and Iron Bull was more like extra background drops rather than pushed in their face. That was good progress for BW who stumbled a lot more in DA2 with characters like Anders who would get angry at you for not following his advances.

DAI was definitely pushing token characters. Krem was a checkbox of a character. He had a minor participation and the most memorable part was the infamous Bull lecture scene in the bar, where they talk down to the player about how trans people are people, talking in a way that no person talk in real life. That was the writer preaching his ideology. The problem is that it breaks the immersion and it ruins the believability of the characters. From that point and on I just couldn't take anything they said as the character saying it, I was constantly wondering "is this part of the writers ideology?" or "Is this the character or the writer?".

Funny that before that scene I didn't even pay attention to him nor cared about it. They ruined what could be a good character to score some political points.

The "gayness" of Dorian was a central part of his character the entire game. There was even a sidequest where he had to talk to his father, who had issues with him being gay. Unlike Krem, he at least had a personality besides being gay, so he wasn't 100% trash.

And there many other cases, like random conversations between characters like Bull praising another woman's armor, because "it is practical, unlike some bikini armor" or like that woman from DA2 (I forgot her name) who looks more like a man now and was your romance option. The women are clearly made less feminine and less attractive in recent Bioware games (DAI and MEA).

In ME Andromeda it is even worse. With the infamous trans NPC that feels the need to tell her life story to you the first time you meet, even if you are complete strangers.

DAI had only two good things, everything else was either bad or mediocre: the ball mission and the Lilliana's subplot where she wants to become the popess and you can incentivize her to kill her way to the top (even though they drop this plot immediately after). Only in those two parts, I was actually in danger of giving a shit. The rest was either pure identity politics cringe or just standard fantasy tropes that have been done better 1000 times before.

MEA had nothing good at all. It was terrible in every way.

But why anyone would take BWs diversity is the key reason for BW games problems is fucking stupid. Diversity is the least of Biowares problems. If you can exhibit critical thinking it should be self-evident to you that diversity is not the problem here. Its lack of better writers. Its lack of consequential storytelling and choice. Its too wide a scope for the game they are making. It is tired fantasy tropes. And Bioware, even as disappointing as they have been with games like Andromeda, are still among the top storytellers in gaming. Which tells you all you need to know about the state of storytelling in AAA games. That it is overall garbage. Bungie, Blizzard, and Bethesda games all tout their stories as being great and "epic" but in reality so much of it so fucking shit and have been since way before diversity was even a heated topic in gaming. So maybe fuck off with this snowflake manbaby cry shit and actually direct the critique where it is warranted.

Bioware is trash lately. They haven't made anything good since Mass Effect 2. They aren't even close to being the "top storytellers". They can't tell a story to save their lives that doesn't involve some minority telling you his/her entire lifestory and lecturing you about it.
 
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mckmas8808

Mckmaster uses MasterCard to buy Slave drives
Isn't this... actually a good thing?

If that's how the creator want to do it, let him do it. It is a fantasy world after all, they can do whatever they want.

You'll learn that some people don't want developers to make games with any signs of diversity in them.
 

RedVIper

Banned
You'll learn that some people don't want developers to make games with any signs of diversity in them.

You'll learn that some people just want good characters.
And others simply don't like when the developers feel the need to push their political beliefs to everyone
 
Which is more diverse?

1.) A group of different races, all with the same social outlook?
2.) A group of the same race, all with different social outlooks?
Thats one of the problems here a gay conservative or a black conservative is unacceptable and to be looked down and made fun off even in real life.

They only want people that tow the line which is why the left generally cant meme.
Man this thread almost made me want to open an account on Resetera.....but then I remembered how shitty it is as well....

Like what are you so mad about exactly? Are you going to get triggered every time words like 'inclusive' or 'diversity' are uttered? How are you going to try and shame those crazies at Era for their overreactions if you are just the same in the end?

I don't even care about Dragon Age but this thread is a bad look. This is just Reverse Resetera to be honest. wow

The problem here is that we have example after example of movies, comics and games poisoned and dropping vastly in quality due to the SJW agenda.

The characters cant have opposing viewpoints to the writers, especially if they are minorities, only racist caricatures can differ in ideology. They cant comprehend others differing in opinion outside pure evil and being wrong.

In ancient times these would be the members of gullible tribes conquered by hostile aggressors. All the men killed and the women taken as war brides.
 

mckmas8808

Mckmaster uses MasterCard to buy Slave drives
You'll learn that some people just want good characters.
And others simply don't like when the developers feel the need to push their political beliefs to everyone

I gotcha. But as a black guy, it's so frustrating to see that a developer simply adding a character of color amounts to "pushing a political belief". Like dude, I'm not a political belief. I'm a person just like any other white male. Why do white straight males get to be the definition of normal?
 
Why do white straight males get to be the definition of normal?
Because these games are made by developers who are mostly white men, for an audience of mostly white, male players, in western countries where most people have historically been white, in a world where the majority of people are straight and cis. That's why they're the default in most games.
 

RedVIper

Banned
I gotcha. But as a black guy, it's so frustrating to see that a developer simply adding a character of color amounts to "pushing a political belief". Like dude, I'm not a political belief. I'm a person just like any other white male. Why do white straight males get to be the definition of normal?

? But that's not whats happening here, did you check out the dudes twitter. He didn't simply say "there will be black characters".

I'd say the reason white males are the norm its because they're, by majority, the ones making the games (And by majority also the ones playing them I'd guess), I actually hate that some people feel entitled to force others to represent them in their work. They can if they want to, but it shouldn't be because they were bullied to do it.

For example the guy who did Kingdom Deliverance got a bunch of flack because there weren't black characters in his game, he got called a racist and people were out for his head. You don't have a right to decide what games he makes. If you feel you're not being represented enough you're free to start making your own games and represent yourself.
 

mckmas8808

Mckmaster uses MasterCard to buy Slave drives
Because these games are made by developers who are mostly white men, for an audience of mostly white, male players, in western countries where most people have historically been white, in a world where the majority of people are straight and cis. That's why they're the default in most games.

Okay maybe I worded my question poorly. I understand "why" white males are the norm in most games. More to the point would be why is it that if the main character(s) aren't white males, that makes it a problem? If a developer purposefully wanted the characters to be multi-racial that should be fine. Just as when a developer decides to make a game with many different types of zombies in it or different types of monsters.

It seems so much easier for some people to accept different Zombie types, rather than willing to accept different genders, sexual orientations, or races in their games.
 
HAHAHAHHAHAHAA

Wow....who is managing these dev teams? They should be canned real quick, at least that's what I would do but hey, I would be interested in making a quality game and huge profit margins instead of....well...whatever this is. These guys are like a running joke, they don't want to make sales instead they would rather be keyboard SJW warriors. I just....I'm in disbelief that huge companies like Bioware have no type of oversight into them injecting personal biased beliefs into video games and running hog wild on social media making themselves a running joke and by association the entire game they are making.

There isn't much to say here, this game is already DOA from that one tweet. I would bet a large sum this game will flop, Dragon Age inquisition was terrible for many of the same reasons and these clowns still haven't firgured it out, even after watching many examples of political ideologies plaguing games and resulting in poor sales and backlash.

Whatever, I don't care for Dragon Age, but I am annoyed that this guy is an NPC and lives in our conservative province of Alberta.
 
It does make me wonder who the game companies think their paying target audience is anymore and how their idea of "inclusion" is not viewed as simple corporate pandering by the very same groups of people that these companies are trying to make happy with this apparent emphasis on inclusiveness and diversity instead of focusing on story and good writing? Is this just simply to satisfy the insane journalism websites that cover video games now?
 

CatLady

Selfishly plays on Xbox Purr-ies X
I gotcha. But as a black guy, it's so frustrating to see that a developer simply adding a character of color amounts to "pushing a political belief". Like dude, I'm not a political belief. I'm a person just like any other white male. Why do white straight males get to be the definition of normal?

I can appreciate what you're saying, but I think it depends on the character. As a white woman one of my all-time favorite characters is a black man, Bayek from AssCreed Origins. I thought he was great, well written character with a lot of depth and personality. He is one of the main reasons I loved that game.

The black guy- can't even remember his name, Bioware stuck in Mass Effect to to to fill a diversity a check box had the depth of an ant an a personality almost as annoying as that stupid Kaiden.

Most of my favorite characters are men except for Aloy and Lara Croft. The most important quality for me is not gender or race, but that it's a great character. I would be quite content with a bunch of black characters if they were all as good as Bayek, but I have no interest in female or black or gay or green characters that are in a game just to virtue signal.
 

Ixiah

Banned
Okay maybe I worded my question poorly. I understand "why" white males are the norm in most games. More to the point would be why is it that if the main character(s) aren't white males, that makes it a problem? If a developer purposefully wanted the characters to be multi-racial that should be fine. Just as when a developer decides to make a game with many different types of zombies in it or different types of monsters.

It seems so much easier for some people to accept different Zombie types, rather than willing to accept different genders, sexual orientations, or races in their games.
Quite simple:
Because every other Movie/Show/Comic Book/Game that "celebrates Diversity" is dogshit.
And why ?
Because they seem to think having a Character whos main attribute is being Gay, Black, or Trans, is enough to carry an Story.
Ellen Ripley or Sarrah Conner arent great Characters because they are Female, they are great Characters who happen to be Female.
 
If the diversity is anything like Mass Effect 2, then their shouldn’t be a problem. Mass Effect 2 wasn’t diverse because you had a black man and a woman as party members, it was diverse because your party was comprised of a group of various alien species with different cultural backgrounds and opinions. That being said, in recent days I haven’t seen developers saying their game will be “diverse” to be a good sign. It usually means that they will be preaching about diversity in a real world sense, instead of being relative to the games world. Developers need to learn the difference between literature having political intrigue and literature being a political lecture.
 

mckmas8808

Mckmaster uses MasterCard to buy Slave drives
I can appreciate what you're saying, but I think it depends on the character. As a white woman one of my all-time favorite characters is a black man, Bayek from AssCreed Origins. I thought he was great, well written character with a lot of depth and personality. He is one of the main reasons I loved that game.

The black guy- can't even remember his name, Bioware stuck in Mass Effect to to to fill a diversity a check box had the depth of an ant an a personality almost as annoying as that stupid Kaiden.

Most of my favorite characters are men except for Aloy and Lara Croft. The most important quality for me is not gender or race, but that it's a great character. I would be quite content with a bunch of black characters if they were all as good as Bayek, but I have no interest in female or black or gay or green characters that are in a game just to virtue signal.

I agree, but it's weird that we view a black character or a women character that's badly written as a checkbox or diversity quota gone wrong. It's my understanding that the last Mass Effect game was just a bad game overall. Could it be that the character was just horribly written?

There are many games where the white male character is a shallow character that has a horribly written background. Yet somehow we accept that and move on. But when the person is a woman, are believe they were badly written due to a political agenda gone wrong. Why?
 

RedVIper

Banned
I agree, but it's weird that we view a black character or a women character that's badly written as a checkbox or diversity quota gone wrong. It's my understanding that the last Mass Effect game was just a bad game overall. Could it be that the character was just horribly written?

There are many games where the white male character is a shallow character that has a horribly written background. Yet somehow we accept that and move on. But when the person is a woman, are believe they were badly written due to a political agenda gone wrong. Why?

Because the devolopers themselves admit they do it because of an agenda. We don't "believe" we know.
 

CatLady

Selfishly plays on Xbox Purr-ies X
I agree, but it's weird that we view a black character or a women character that's badly written as a checkbox or diversity quota gone wrong. It's my understanding that the last Mass Effect game was just a bad game overall. Could it be that the character was just horribly written?

There are many games where the white male character is a shallow character that has a horribly written background. Yet somehow we accept that and move on. But when the person is a woman, are believe they were badly written due to a political agenda gone wrong. Why?
Definitely a horribly written character and Kaiden, the white male was even worse, but the women and aliens were all pretty decent. Maybe Bioware just hates male humans 😀
 
God alt right types whine about literally everything constantly.

If you can't handle the existence of characters that don't match yourself, perhaps you shoild get out more.

The whining is especially absurd considering this guy didn't say anything negative.
 

RedVIper

Banned
God alt right types whine about literally everything constantly.

If you can't handle the existence of characters that don't match yourself, perhaps you shoild get out more.

The whining is especially absurd considering this guy didn't say anything negative.

Yes NeoGaf is Alt-Right, we have a secret forum were we collude with literal Nazis on how to take over the wordl. If you behave we'll add you to the club.
 
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Yes NeoGaf is Alt-Right, we have a secret forum were we collude with literal Nazis on how to take over the worl. If you behave we'll add you to the club.

The brand NeoGaf has nothing to do with what some users choose to engage/identify with.

Weak deflecting and low-character behavior.

Ugh.
 
I will say most of my favorite characters are minorities or of the opposite gender.

This idea that people cant identify with other races or genders is BS.


I can understand wanting more variety and it is good to have additional variety.

But these people tend to create one dimensional flat cardboard characters because they cant handle diversity of opinion which is why they want safe spaces and the like, why they favor rampant censorship and echochambers.

We have people that dont accept that men are physically stronger than women on average. People that think someone with Down can be the next Einstein. People that dont understand a homeless middle aged person with no education has little chance of being the next Musk. People that deny reality and finite resource limitations.
 
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BigBooper

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I mean, look at the guy's profile for all you need to know. Every games writer was praising DA:I for romancing the bull man, despite the rest of the game being aweful. They are playing to their crowd I guess.
 
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