DriftingSpirit
Member
Yeah, there was a lot of that coincidental type stuff happening.
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December 2016 NPD (U.S. Hardware) Predictions - Closes Tuesday, January 10th
ethomaz
Banned
It was coincidental lol
One night discussing the possible sales of Scalebound... in the morning it is dead lol
MatPiscatella
Member
So it IS all your fault. I was wondering!
I am ashamed of my words and deeds.
ethomaz
Banned
Cosmo... are you here?
Remember when we are talking about the actual reviewers and some others guys said today reviewers are harsher than they used to be in previous generations... I used the MGSV example showing the reviewers are close to same but it was not exactly the best example because MGSV is a different game compared with MGSIV.
I guess you even made a metacritic table showing the avg. scores are similar.
Surprise I opened the GAF today and the DQVIII 3DS review thread was up with the same Metacritic score it received on PS2.
Great games scores great no matter the generation.
Remember when we are talking about the actual reviewers and some others guys said today reviewers are harsher than they used to be in previous generations... I used the MGSV example showing the reviewers are close to same but it was not exactly the best example because MGSV is a different game compared with MGSIV.
I guess you even made a metacritic table showing the avg. scores are similar.
Surprise I opened the GAF today and the DQVIII 3DS review thread was up with the same Metacritic score it received on PS2.
Great games scores great no matter the generation.
GifGafIsTheBestGaf
Member
[PS4] 1080K
[XB1] 990K
[3DS] 600K
[WIU] 45K
[XB1] 990K
[3DS] 600K
[WIU] 45K
hanspampel
Banned
slavesnyder
Member
What's your definition of a statistical tie?
Chobel
Member
+/- 150k
Jarod McChicken
Member
Surprised so many people are predicting a PS4 win. I think it'll be close but with the inevitable drop off from Pro launch numbers I'd think MS would be the safer bet.
Haha!!! Yes.
Haha!!! Yes.
#dead
Bitch Pudding
Member
slavesnyder
Member
Like clockwork. Chapeau
hanspampel
Banned
this is my defintion of a statistical tie
anything below 15k and 1.5% difference
the next lowest gap many predicted was 30k or about 3%
back in April 2016 the gap between Xb1 and Ps4 was just 7.2k units and many called it a tie, while the % difference was at least 4.3%
ethomaz
Banned
Genial
slavesnyder
Member
Okay. Thanks for clarification
Primethius
Banned
Scorpio seems to have turned out to be another in a long list of items on the chalkboard of "what will save Xbox?" but one, like some before, is about to go wrong.
I would call it effective PR (especially for the core base that are eagerly looking forward to it) but more and more it seems that their PR has locked them in a really bad position.
They've basically committed themselves into a singular vision (6tf, native 4k) and they are stuck there without perhaps more profitable alternatives, all for a product that I feel MS themselves have fallen for the hype of.
It's gonna be a rude awakening, especially for some of the core hoping for some sales shift.
I would call it effective PR (especially for the core base that are eagerly looking forward to it) but more and more it seems that their PR has locked them in a really bad position.
They've basically committed themselves into a singular vision (6tf, native 4k) and they are stuck there without perhaps more profitable alternatives, all for a product that I feel MS themselves have fallen for the hype of.
It's gonna be a rude awakening, especially for some of the core hoping for some sales shift.
Bitch Pudding
Member
Now let's wait for Scorpio'S actuall announcement (incl. price and additional exclusive XBOX One games) before we administer the last rites, shall we?
If its value for money turns out to be very appealing, it cold still sell well even if it lacks notheworthy exclusive content at launch.
If its value for money turns out to be very appealing, it cold still sell well even if it lacks notheworthy exclusive content at launch.
CosmicQueso
Member
You're remembering right, The distribution of review scores across all games is basically exactly the same. The idea that reviewers are tougher now is an idea not supported by the data. There are fewer games rated highly, however there are fewer games being reviewed. The % of games which review those high ratings is virtually unchanged.
As for statistical ties, it's good to remember that NPD has to extrapolate total hardware sales based on a certain % coverage of the market POS. Based on that projection rate and overall volume, differences of a few thousand or even tens of thousands of units could certainly be contained within a range of error and be considered a statistical tie.
hanspampel
Banned
Primethius
Banned
I'm not administering last rites so much as it's something I've noticed, especially in the past few weeks as we head into launch. I never expected Scorpio (or Pro for that matter) to do particularly well and I don't that remotely changing.
Now that we have market data, MS's PR stunt last E3 seems even more hilarious in hindsight. They gave up a lot of flexibility for what essentially amounts to Internet points. They are constrained by a CG ad and unlike say Sony, for some reason they actually seem to be putting hopes into it.
Seems foolish.
You're too late. Sorry.
CosmicQueso
Member
I'll guess PS4 to take it by less than 5%.
Welfare
Member
For PR, same time as they usually come out. Sometime after 6PM EST, maybe a winner announcement before then but after 5PM EST. Maybe we can get another article from Windows Central
And next up is Guerrilla Cambridge, as Sony continues to shut down their VR studios: http://m.neogaf.com/showthread.php?t=1332978
The Mad Draklor
Member
Compared to the aggregate, my PS4 and XB1 predictions are far from optimistic, lol.
Unknown?
Member
For PR, same time as they usually come out. Sometime after 6PM EST, maybe a winner announcement before then but after 5PM EST. Maybe we can get another article from Windows Central
Today? What day does it usually come out?
KillerMan91
Member
So PSVR is pretty much out of stock everywhere globally so it seems the hardware itself has performed better than what Sony expected but then at the same time they continue to shut down their VR studios. What the hell is logic here?
DriftingSpirit
Member
Maybe it was based on the performance of Rigs.
This is not right though Sony London has move on to their next VR project.
The Mad Draklor
Member
Compared to other PSVR games, Rigs didn't do well commercially.
My guess is that 1st party dev was needed to help the initial push, but now maybe Sony is counting on the overall install base Occulus/ Vive/ PSVR to bring 3rd party titles as developping exclusively for 1 isn't a good idea I imagine (unless bankrolled by a platform maker for specific titles, like Crytek).
Feel bad for Cambridge though
KillerMan91
Member
My guess is that 1st party dev was needed to help the initial push, but now maybe Sony is counting on the overall install base Occulus/ Vive/ PSVR to bring 3rd party titles as developping exclusively for 1 isn't a good idea I imagine (unless bankrolled by a platform maker for specific titles, like Crytek).
Feel bad for Cambridge though
That is still pretty damn brutal fate. You are put in charge on developing flagship title for accessory device that will have small userbase at the beginning and then when the game flops on that tiny userbase you are out of job.
Welfare
Member
We usually know who the winner is today and next Thursday is when NPD PR comes out.
DriftingSpirit
Member
Soon.
The Mad Draklor
Member
Plot twist: The Switch was shadow released and won December.
Welfare
Member
PS4 won http://venturebeat.com/2017/01/12/p...ome-console-in-december-in-the-united-states/
Much bigger month than expected
PS4 < 1,582,000
XB1 > 1,376,000
XB1 v PS4 gap July - October 2016
267K
November gap
~167K
Much bigger month than expected
PS4 < 1,582,000
XB1 > 1,376,000
XB1 v PS4 gap July - October 2016
267K
November gap
~167K
