CitizenCope
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Paracelsus said:
Is this true? Went from a must buy to not even a rental after playing the demo.
No I don't need something exactly like Gears but something that works would be nice Capcom, thanks.
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Definitive word on PS3 demo date for Resident Evil 5 / RE5 ? (banish me if old)
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Is this true? Went from a must buy to not even a rental after playing the demo.
No I don't need something exactly like Gears but something that works would be nice Capcom, thanks.
DarkUSS said:
Yeah, that's slightly counter intuitive. Triangle on the friend on your friends list and "accept invitation" after they've sent that auto-generated message.
Hold on, memory hazy. I think after that it'll list the invite messages and you chose the latest/standing one... click it and you have the option not to reply but join.
Let us know how you get on.
EDIT: And yeah, it let me join no probs. Only once (on a non friend's game) did it drop out.
krypt0nian
Banned
Wow Capcom. You've killed my anticipation for this.
I know its "just a demo" but I'm not liking the controls or the forced co-op.
I guess this one is just not for me.
I know its "just a demo" but I'm not liking the controls or the forced co-op.
I guess this one is just not for me.
Sword Familiar
178% of NeoGAF posters don't understand statistics
krypt0nian said:
I kind of hated the parts with Ashley in RE4 so I'm also a bit put off about this. Sure, Sheva can defend herself, but I'm not very fond of the idea of having to babysit another character in an action game. At least playing singleplayer.
I played through it now. It's pretty awesome. I too was not a fan of Ashley, but Sheva can hold her own, and I can use her to fetch ammo and stuff, and she does it on her own sometimes. She takes a lot of the tedium out.
I'm using control type D, where shooting is using R1 after readied, and knifing is R2(?), and you can strafe with the left stick, and move around with the right. Clicking to run is fine with me, as it opens up the option for me to strafe, and makes the game feel less tank-y
lol), and more game-y But yeah, Control Type D for the win.
I was not going to buy this game, as I figured I'd be knee deep in KZ2 by the time this launched, but this demo has cemented that I have to buy this game on or around launch time. It's freaking awesome. I just remembered why I love the series and don't know how I could have been thinking about not buying this game in the near future.
Edit:
Inventory system is fine with me. Protip: You can quick select items in the cardinal directions (up, down, left right), using the D-Pad, so assign one to one gun, another to another gun, and ammo and herbs on the other two. Don't really have to futz around in the inventory system too much unless you're asking for ammo, but Sheva's smart enough to give me some if she has any left over.
I'm using control type D, where shooting is using R1 after readied, and knifing is R2(?), and you can strafe with the left stick, and move around with the right. Clicking to run is fine with me, as it opens up the option for me to strafe, and makes the game feel less tank-y
lol), and more game-y But yeah, Control Type D for the win.I was not going to buy this game, as I figured I'd be knee deep in KZ2 by the time this launched, but this demo has cemented that I have to buy this game on or around launch time. It's freaking awesome. I just remembered why I love the series and don't know how I could have been thinking about not buying this game in the near future.
Edit:
Inventory system is fine with me. Protip: You can quick select items in the cardinal directions (up, down, left right), using the D-Pad, so assign one to one gun, another to another gun, and ammo and herbs on the other two. Don't really have to futz around in the inventory system too much unless you're asking for ammo, but Sheva's smart enough to give me some if she has any left over.
The inventory system, the co-op mode, the controls scheme, not being able to aim while walking, etc.. are stuff I can cope with.
(although I prefer the controls of Dead Space)
The only thing I probably won't be able to get over though is the Caucasian/Arabic zombies I see on screen.
I still can't believe Capcom bought into that bullshit.
Why not add Asian zombies into the mix too, huh? Why didn't anyone raise an eyebrow when we were "ethnic cleansing" the Spaniards in RE4?
(although I prefer the controls of Dead Space)
The only thing I probably won't be able to get over though is the Caucasian/Arabic zombies I see on screen.
I still can't believe Capcom bought into that bullshit.
Why not add Asian zombies into the mix too, huh? Why didn't anyone raise an eyebrow when we were "ethnic cleansing" the Spaniards in RE4?
CrushDance
Banned
Alright, here's the viewpoint from someone who's never played a Resident Evil game.
I first tried the demo in single player(Public Assembly) and the be honest, as soon as the game started. I did not know what I was doing at all. I pressed R1 to shoot and nothing happened, I thought it may be set to R2 as some other PS3 games have done in regards to weapons, no dice.
Let me just say though that I went into this demo with a negative mindset and not expecting much after the endless cries of terrible controls. I was seriously disappointed by the controls as well but went over each configuration until I found one that would get the job done.(Control type D). I could now finally shoot by pressing L1 to am a R1 to fire, that's all that I needed.I died the first time going through it as Sheva never healed me and left me to the task of healing us both. It didn't help that even though the shooting mechanics were now workable, the movement was quite bad still(Hello bad camera).
I tried the demo 3 more times in single player and never once did I feel that I was actually in control, the enemies move very fast towards you and then slow to a crawl(wtf?) just as they're in range. So pretty soon you're surrounded by enemies unless you shoot+run strategically. Again the controls hindered the experience. I quit the demo and came back about an hour later and this time I went online with other people and had a lot of fun(I had fun in single player too). having someone who heals you and watches your back as you do theirs is really wonderful and makes the game easier to manage as you're not always thinking about saving yourself.
Me and LoudNinja then did some friends only co-op together in Shanty Town and Public Assembly, once again it proved to be great fun, especially with the chainsaw guy chasing us and running to heal each other etc. But I noticed that as LoudNinja moved around(And he probably noticed this of me as well), the animations seemed very jarring when you went from shooting---->moving. And it seemed as if he was having "trouble" with the controls as well because of the way he moved and responded to different environmental factors. Especially in the Shanty Town area where you run up two flights of stairs prior to assist jumping Sheva. The turns are terrible.
But through all of that I had a lot of fun. And really that's what matters to me when I play games, how much fun can I get out of this experience. Nothing beats running up to your partner and smacking some zombies off him or her, healing and blowing up a barrel to save them from more enemies as they run away to reload. It's just awesome.
I really wish though that you could move while shooting though as that's what hampers the experience for me. The camera as well needs some serious work as it's always swerving and snapping back into some default position, which makes it hard sometimes when you're in the thick of a serious battle to relocate your enemy after you shrug them off or going around corners. I hate going around corners in this game.
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But yeah, overall it was a very solid experience and I may get it day 1. Having said that, there are some things I noticed and things others said that I feel should be touched on:
1) 5GB install. For real? Didn't we already get over this when the system first came out? I mean it's not a big deal as there's tons of space of my 250 drive, but it's still stupid.
2) Sound. Why do the guns around so weak? The only weapon I fell in love with was the shotgun and the sniper rifle. Everything else just seems so weak and sounds weak as well.
3) Camera. It really needs to be pulled back and allowed to be totally maneuverable by the player instead of sticking to Chris's back.
4) Movement. I rarely died because of anything other than the terrible movement. In one instance I shot at the chainsaw guy with my sniper rifle and then ran down a bit, turned and shot again this time as I was reloading. My feet were glued to the ground and the guy ran up and took me out. I don't get why you freeze when reloading.
5) Ammo. You're given way to little ammo in the game, even when you search everywhere and are fully stocked before the enemies come, you still run out pretty fast.
6) Attacking. The knife attack is USELESS, sure it'll work when you have no ammo. But it does little damage and the biggest caveat is that as soon as you hit an enemy and they stagger back, your attacks are not close enough then. And you can't move while attacking, so you end up swiping at the air while eating an axe a few second later. Melee attacks should include punches and kicks at any time to balance this problem out.
7) Healing. Wtf at having to press triangle, select a healing item and then be given the option to equip or use in the middle of a battle.
8) Death. Why the hell do I die if Sheva dies!? or my partner dies!? Why can't I run up and still heal them? I hate it when games pull this stunt. If you both suck you'll run out of healing items soon enough anyway after numerous revivals. So lame.
I first tried the demo in single player(Public Assembly) and the be honest, as soon as the game started. I did not know what I was doing at all. I pressed R1 to shoot and nothing happened, I thought it may be set to R2 as some other PS3 games have done in regards to weapons, no dice.
Let me just say though that I went into this demo with a negative mindset and not expecting much after the endless cries of terrible controls. I was seriously disappointed by the controls as well but went over each configuration until I found one that would get the job done.(Control type D). I could now finally shoot by pressing L1 to am a R1 to fire, that's all that I needed.I died the first time going through it as Sheva never healed me and left me to the task of healing us both. It didn't help that even though the shooting mechanics were now workable, the movement was quite bad still(Hello bad camera).
I tried the demo 3 more times in single player and never once did I feel that I was actually in control, the enemies move very fast towards you and then slow to a crawl(wtf?) just as they're in range. So pretty soon you're surrounded by enemies unless you shoot+run strategically. Again the controls hindered the experience. I quit the demo and came back about an hour later and this time I went online with other people and had a lot of fun(I had fun in single player too). having someone who heals you and watches your back as you do theirs is really wonderful and makes the game easier to manage as you're not always thinking about saving yourself.
Me and LoudNinja then did some friends only co-op together in Shanty Town and Public Assembly, once again it proved to be great fun, especially with the chainsaw guy chasing us and running to heal each other etc. But I noticed that as LoudNinja moved around(And he probably noticed this of me as well), the animations seemed very jarring when you went from shooting---->moving. And it seemed as if he was having "trouble" with the controls as well because of the way he moved and responded to different environmental factors. Especially in the Shanty Town area where you run up two flights of stairs prior to assist jumping Sheva. The turns are terrible.
But through all of that I had a lot of fun. And really that's what matters to me when I play games, how much fun can I get out of this experience. Nothing beats running up to your partner and smacking some zombies off him or her, healing and blowing up a barrel to save them from more enemies as they run away to reload. It's just awesome.
I really wish though that you could move while shooting though as that's what hampers the experience for me. The camera as well needs some serious work as it's always swerving and snapping back into some default position, which makes it hard sometimes when you're in the thick of a serious battle to relocate your enemy after you shrug them off or going around corners. I hate going around corners in this game.
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But yeah, overall it was a very solid experience and I may get it day 1. Having said that, there are some things I noticed and things others said that I feel should be touched on:
1) 5GB install. For real? Didn't we already get over this when the system first came out? I mean it's not a big deal as there's tons of space of my 250 drive, but it's still stupid.
2) Sound. Why do the guns around so weak? The only weapon I fell in love with was the shotgun and the sniper rifle. Everything else just seems so weak and sounds weak as well.
3) Camera. It really needs to be pulled back and allowed to be totally maneuverable by the player instead of sticking to Chris's back.
4) Movement. I rarely died because of anything other than the terrible movement. In one instance I shot at the chainsaw guy with my sniper rifle and then ran down a bit, turned and shot again this time as I was reloading. My feet were glued to the ground and the guy ran up and took me out. I don't get why you freeze when reloading.
5) Ammo. You're given way to little ammo in the game, even when you search everywhere and are fully stocked before the enemies come, you still run out pretty fast.
6) Attacking. The knife attack is USELESS, sure it'll work when you have no ammo. But it does little damage and the biggest caveat is that as soon as you hit an enemy and they stagger back, your attacks are not close enough then. And you can't move while attacking, so you end up swiping at the air while eating an axe a few second later. Melee attacks should include punches and kicks at any time to balance this problem out.
7) Healing. Wtf at having to press triangle, select a healing item and then be given the option to equip or use in the middle of a battle.
8) Death. Why the hell do I die if Sheva dies!? or my partner dies!? Why can't I run up and still heal them? I hate it when games pull this stunt. If you both suck you'll run out of healing items soon enough anyway after numerous revivals. So lame.
CosmicGroinPull
Member
Nice . I did not expect such clean graphics. Thought it would be all gritty from the trailers. And NO JAGGIES! Damn the guy who got me worried
I really had to fight the controls at first, but remembered how to play eventually. If this game had Dead Space's dual analog movement, it would be PERFECT. *sigh* The gameplay would still be the same, Isaac moved slowly anyway. WHY???????? :`(
. I did not expect such clean graphics. Thought it would be all gritty from the trailers. And NO JAGGIES! Damn the guy who got me worried I really had to fight the controls at first, but remembered how to play eventually. If this game had Dead Space's dual analog movement, it would be PERFECT. *sigh* The gameplay would still be the same, Isaac moved slowly anyway. WHY???????? :`(
Cat in the Hat
Member
thats racistReturners said:I saw a screenshot of an asian zombie in RE5
Well death by zombies comes after you are put in a "dying" state. You can still resuscitate them (LOL A PUNCH IN THE GUT AND IM ALIVE NOW YAY) but chainsaw deaths are 1HKO to both players.CrushDance said:
If the entire game is designed heavily around co-op then how would you progress through the story (which conveniently includes an alive Shiva) by yourself?
CosmicGroinPull
Member
Guys, what are the odds of Capcom implementing dual analog controls if we bitch enough? It's my only issue with the game.
CharpyImpact
Member
I played the Japanese Demo and I have a few impressions.
1. Right when I loaded up the game and had to look at the Japanese characters that I didn't understand. It said "BIOHAZARD 5". Now that is REALLY important for me. My friends and I would go around saying RESIDENT EVIl FOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOUUUUUUUR in that great voice so it seems the tradition will continue
2. I played control style A. This is EXACTLY the same as resident evil 4 gamecube version. So, awesome. It is completely the same. I am gonna try Control Style C and D to see what is up.
3. I had a few no sound moments(half second) which were kinda weird but it might have just been a hiccup in the game.
4. I personally think the game looks great. I really only saw a slow down once or twice but I really hope they incorporate a scary atmosphere. I just don't get scared with the midday sun shining down.
5. YES for being able to heal yourself and Sheva at the same time. I am sad that now the things don't look like herbs though. Sad Panda.
6. Maybe I just suck or can't see for anything BUT I WAS REALLY running out of ammo. There were times where sheva had to down someone because I had nothing. That is good.
Overall, I have absolutely no problem with this game. I just hope the atmosphere changes. I never really felt in danger like the Village part in RE4. Easily one of the most frantic points in the game and it happens RIGHT at the beginning, which basically says the game will have no mercy.
1. Right when I loaded up the game and had to look at the Japanese characters that I didn't understand. It said "BIOHAZARD 5". Now that is REALLY important for me. My friends and I would go around saying RESIDENT EVIl FOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOUUUUUUUR in that great voice so it seems the tradition will continue
2. I played control style A. This is EXACTLY the same as resident evil 4 gamecube version. So, awesome. It is completely the same. I am gonna try Control Style C and D to see what is up.
3. I had a few no sound moments(half second) which were kinda weird but it might have just been a hiccup in the game.
4. I personally think the game looks great. I really only saw a slow down once or twice but I really hope they incorporate a scary atmosphere. I just don't get scared with the midday sun shining down.
5. YES for being able to heal yourself and Sheva at the same time. I am sad that now the things don't look like herbs though. Sad Panda.
6. Maybe I just suck or can't see for anything BUT I WAS REALLY running out of ammo. There were times where sheva had to down someone because I had nothing. That is good.
Overall, I have absolutely no problem with this game. I just hope the atmosphere changes. I never really felt in danger like the Village part in RE4. Easily one of the most frantic points in the game and it happens RIGHT at the beginning, which basically says the game will have no mercy.
CrushDance
Banned
Quite simple. It doesn't matter if you die during game play as the characters are still there story wise, other games have done this. Everyone's dying and then you get a cut scene and everyone's fine.Threi said:
Now that you mention it though, the timing to get to an ally and heal them is way to short. These aren't game breakers for me(Well Sheva thing might be) because lord know there will be some section that you'll die a lot in and friendships will be lost.
schick85 said:
http://img394.imageshack.us/img394/9071/re5oneblackzombielolkc4.jpg
Right in the middle... looks asian no?
Cat in the Hat said:
Chill...
Arpharmd B
Banned
Narcosis said:
Probably because Capcom sees the PS3 version as the Eastern version, 360 version as the Western version, and they tried to make the control scheme closer to big Western games (Gears etc.)
In Japan they don't give a shit bout the West, Gears, or 360.
Manos: The Hans of Fate
Banned
Arpharmd B said:
Holy crap that is sick!
http://www.buy.com/prod/fantom-1tb-...sata-usb-2-0-7200rpm/q/loc/101/206821006.html
So when I played last night I kept getting errors when I tried to join a game. I just assumed it was cause not many other people had downloaded the demo yet. But instead I hosted myself a couple times and instantly found online partners. The funny thing is, as I played I was thinking wow this game is completely lagless! But now that I think about it, it was probably just cause I was hosting.
OldJadedGamer
Banned
Arpharmd B said:
For a laptop drive that sits in a PS3? Link please.
Lion Heart
Banned
Damn I didnt know Fight Night full game is on PSN.
Arpharmd B
Banned
OldJadedGamer said:
External. I should have checked it out before posting that, sorry.
Type D is the default for both PS3 and 360 demos.
Type A is what I go with since thats what im used to and works just fine. My only complaint with the PS3 demo is that it seems to have framerate problems while the 360 demo is smooth throughout.
PS3 demo seems to be abit brighter too.
Type A is what I go with since thats what im used to and works just fine. My only complaint with the PS3 demo is that it seems to have framerate problems while the 360 demo is smooth throughout.
PS3 demo seems to be abit brighter too.
Saying what I said in the 360 topic:
As things are now, the game works just fine with these controls. Im sure they'll change things in RE6 or maybe even a spin off mid series game before then....but as of now, people are acting like the controls are so bad they cant play the game...when the fact is that they arent bad at all.
Could they be better? Sure. Are the bad? No.
And people still seem to enjoy RE4 replays...so its not like they cant play RE5 now.
Even in survival games that allow you to walk forward or backwards with weapon drawn (Silent Hill Homecoming) I never do. Why? Because its better to let the enemy approach you while you have a steady aim. That way you have more than enough time to do some damage then run away.
Alot of the complaints are pretty pointless...but I will say setting aiming speed to fastest is nice for people who know how to aim.
Oh and im sure the game will get darker near the beginning. Look at the difference between Shanty town and Assembly. Its getting darker...and things are probably going to heat up at night.
As things are now, the game works just fine with these controls. Im sure they'll change things in RE6 or maybe even a spin off mid series game before then....but as of now, people are acting like the controls are so bad they cant play the game...when the fact is that they arent bad at all.
Could they be better? Sure. Are the bad? No.
And people still seem to enjoy RE4 replays...so its not like they cant play RE5 now.
Even in survival games that allow you to walk forward or backwards with weapon drawn (Silent Hill Homecoming) I never do. Why? Because its better to let the enemy approach you while you have a steady aim. That way you have more than enough time to do some damage then run away.
Alot of the complaints are pretty pointless...but I will say setting aiming speed to fastest is nice for people who know how to aim.
Oh and im sure the game will get darker near the beginning. Look at the difference between Shanty town and Assembly. Its getting darker...and things are probably going to heat up at night.
Manos: The Hans of Fate
Banned
940ish MB at least for the Japan one.Fersis said:
....... im torn
LOVED re4, but quit when the chainsaw women came.
love the re5 demo. but quit when the chainsaw dude came, gave him a good 20 headshots, 2 punches and a barrel explosion. he survives. i get a 1 hit kill from him. so i dunno if i want to deal with that shit. chainsaw assholes always get me. lame 1 hit kills ftl.
LOVED re4, but quit when the chainsaw women came.
love the re5 demo. but quit when the chainsaw dude came, gave him a good 20 headshots, 2 punches and a barrel explosion. he survives. i get a 1 hit kill from him. so i dunno if i want to deal with that shit. chainsaw assholes always get me. lame 1 hit kills ftl.
Lord Error
Insane For Sony
I died from that guy as well. The problem is only that the demo forces you to play the level from the beginning, which sucks, but it's kind of understandable as it's just a demo.Tiduz said: