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[darkslayer101]

the time has come and so have i

Made a sorta sketchy attempt at Bloody Palace after I cleared Devil Hunter since I don't have all the blue orbs and was missing 4 pips of health, but I did this before with Nero and figured I still had it in me.

Maybe one day I will get competent with Dante and do the same, but I currently need to rest my index finger from all that charge shot 3 carry. Atleast this gave me a massive boost of proud souls so I can now afford every move before I dig into Vergil.

good work!
yeah Nero was the first character i finished BP with... If I had to rank the characters from easy to difficult for completing BP, it would be:
Vergil
Lady
Nero
Trish
Dante

 

[direct_quote]

So there's like 5 days left to submit entries to GAF True Style tournament and entry count is still pretty low.. So come on DMC Gaf submit some entries! Quote to reveal submission form (at bottom, google form in email field).

Tournament thread, with full list of rules:
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1076690

[Entry format]

• 30 seconds entry max of stylish gameplay (combos/combat that you think looks good).
• Son of Sparda Difficulty or above (No LDK).
• No easy automatic mode.
• No Super Costumes.
• All levels of Bloody Palace can be used.
• No Piecing together multiple segments(clean cut).
• Lady and Trish entries due 22nd of July 12:01 am.
• Vergil Entries due 23rd of July 12:01 am

 

[DevilPower]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KG0YfixLQsg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2P8dRNvr_iw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YP_jlUIjOKU

I liked R1N3. The rest of the vids had too many whiffed splits and double downs. I guess you were trying to pull off caliburs.
The high roller to showdown cancel was awesome. I didn't know it could be done.

I wish I had instant rev timings like you... could only instant rev streak and split.

 

[Golnei]

Red and Blue are almost done. Vergil's DT coat tails would work well to make up the rest of Blue's coat, but unfortunately the model's attached to the rest of his torso...

credo is so nothing of a character that his "noble sacrifice" shit is literally treated as a joke ingame by dante

all the dmc4 exclusive chars are really, really bad but and but i figure that's just another casualty by the unfinished nature of the game

Credo was an empty shell, essentially. His visual design and basic concept were okay; but he had negligible characterisation or development, he did nothing interesting and nothing interesting happened to him. Was he even mentioned once after his pointless sacrifice?

EDIT: As an aside, I totally think the characters were salvagable. And Kyrie could absolutely be made interesting in a future iteration.

They're salvageable, but even the DMC2 characters could be rewritten into something worthwhile with that degree of reconceptualisation. And Lucia probably has much more potential than Kyrie on that front if one were to be brought back...

Though I do agree that the non-Kyrie characters had more of a base to build on compared to their equivalents in 2 - it's an absurdly low bar to clear, but at least they managed that much.

I'd be into making him an alternate non-canonical DT mode for one of the characters, though, sort of like the extremely-limited-moveset Nelo Angelo DT from DMC3SE.

It could work as an addition to Prototype Nero; but it'd also be interesting to see what more could be done if they decided to expand on Corrupt Vergil's gimmick. A character which had access to multiple fundamentally different DT transformations/characters instead of weapons, each with their own subsystems similar to the Disaster or Concentration gauge, could allow for a limited implementation of the character switching / assist concept without forcing the entire game to conform to it.

 

[saher]

playing for the first time, what the huge amount of puzzles? i like how the camera is similar to the first dmc and the combat is really fun but the areas and the bosses are boring.

 

[BumblebeeCody]

Red and Blue are almost done. Vergil's DT coat tails would work well to make up the rest of Blue's coat, but unfortunately the model's attached to the rest of his torso...

I think I devil triggered in my pantsu.

 

[TheSpoiler]

Did this game ever get patched?

 

[Astral]

So after 9 missions, Lady is kinda boring to use. Anyone else think so?

 

[darkslayer101]

So after 9 missions, Lady is kinda boring to use. Anyone else think so?

lady is generally boring to use imo. That being said the campaign of this game gets tedious if it isn't the first playthrough.

Also waddya guys think of Capcom making SFV characters unlockable?

 

[BumblebeeCody]

So after 9 missions, Lady is kinda boring to use. Anyone else think so?

I've spent the "EVO Weekend" going through the game with Lady and seeing what she can do. Yeah she isn't for everyone but she does have some pretty fun stylish stuff. My main problem is that she has little to no cancels, you have to commit to a lot of her moves.

lady is generally boring to use imo. That being said the campaign of this game gets tedious if it isn't the first playthrough.

Also waddya guys think of Capcom making SFV characters unlockable?

Not a fan of it.
We didn't like it in SFIV.
So then they made all the characters available in SSFIV

Then they repeat the same problem again in SFV
But this time they can push their DLC Microtransaction to let us have what we want right away. DMC4: SE felt like them testing the idea.

 

[GuardianE]

Did this game ever get patched?

Not yet. They're still taking bug reports.

So after 9 missions, Lady is kinda boring to use. Anyone else think so?

She's really limited, just like Trish. They were both made on a restricted budget. I almost view them as "previews" of any future incarnation of them.

Also waddya guys think of Capcom making SFV characters unlockable?

It's a good pro-consumer move, adopting a pseudo-f2p model almost. We paid for expansions and characters in the past. This time, we won't have to fully upgrade the game and abandon the "vanilla" version. It's less stringent, more fluid, and allows you to either spend real money or earn in-game currency. The only potential downside is if Capcom decides to overcharge for characters since you can earn them in-game. Considering how smart this decision is, I'm optimistic that the implementation will be well done as well.

Not a fan of it.
We didn't like it in SFIV.
So then they made all the characters available in SSFIV

Then they repeat the same problem again in SFV
But this time they can push their DLC Microtransaction to let us have what we want right away. DMC4: SE felt like them testing the idea.

The problem is that there will never be a "complete" roster with the first iteration of any fighting game. This isn't exclusive to Capcom. Literally every fighting game out there now has DLC characters now or expansion efforts. It's either implement this new system, or rehash the past with a SUPER or AE and alienating a good portion of the vanilla players. This new system promotes choice for consumers, which is a good thing.

 

[ShinMaruku]

Some pointers on these fights?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CfqFzBM1xc0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tB9z4QWP5uQ

 

[Son Of D]

She's really limited, just like Trish. They were both made on a restricted budget. I almost view them as "previews" of any future incarnation of them.

Definitely. They don't even have "Super" costumes which is a shame. The idea of Lady with instant charging just sounds fun and hilarious. I hope they do get fleshed out better in DMC5 though, there's potential there that a proper time and budget would help fulfill.

 

[Snacks the sober sea lion]

Someone seems to have found a fix for the PC version's crashing. I made it through 2 levels with no crashes, when previously I was stuck on Mission 3 forever because it would always crash. Still would prefer they actually patch the game, since I've now copied Windows dll's and hex edited the game's exe just to make it work adequately.

I'm having trouble doing Vergil's Kick 13 while locked on. He frequently starts the attack and then immediately cancels it into a teleport.

 

[Astral]

Ok how the fuck do I fight Blitz with Trish?

 

[.....]

Some pointers on these fights?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CfqFzBM1xc0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tB9z4QWP5uQ

Do you always use Super Nero? EX-Caliburs are great for the shield , also walking to da pope instead of jumping to him after his shield breaks makes him hop backwards less.

On another note i went with this as my final entry:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l8jkuNIunr0

The surplus of fodder enemies has me playing for efficiency not creativity which is bad. Honestly mission 2 was an awful choice as a backdrop .

 

[Tetsuo9999]

Someone seems to have found a fix for the PC version's crashing. I made it through 2 levels with no crashes, when previously I was stuck on Mission 3 forever because it would always crash. Still would prefer they actually patch the game, since I've now copied Windows dll's and hex edited the game's exe just to make it work adequately.

I'm having trouble doing Vergil's Kick 13 while locked on. He frequently starts the attack and then immediately cancels it into a teleport.

Yeah, it's pretty unacceptable how there hasn't been a single word about a patch. The bug report thread is nice, but means nothing in the long run if the issues aren't addressed. My issues have been mild (XSplit not detecting the game and stuttering on certain moves like Rising Star), but I know other players have it much worse.

 

[darkslayer101]

Ok how the fuck do I fight Blitz with Trish?

use pandora or DT gun shots... when cloak of off either pandora or roundtrip into the front punch or explosion...

 

[ShinMaruku]

Do you always use Super Nero? EX-Caliburs are great for the shield , also walking to da pope instead of jumping to him after his shield breaks makes him hop backwards less.

Thanks I'll keep to those pointers. I love Super Nero for fighting him for the silliness with ex grabbing him.

 

[yarrmateys]

I just finished missions 13 and 14 for the first time in 5 years. I don't know if it's just me getting old, but I have never been this mentally exhausted in my gaming life since... the last time I played a dungeon crawler.

Also it is just me, or this game's Melee + Style moves are considerably less forgiving to execute than other action games' double button press moves (thinking of Bayo torture attacks, MGR dodge/executions, Ninja Gaiden windrun/ninpo)? I'd love this input method to be a staple in the next game, and the input window be made more generous.

 

[gunbo13]

So there's like 5 days left to submit entries to GAF True Style tournament and entry count is still pretty low.. So come on DMC Gaf submit some entries! Quote to reveal submission form (at bottom, google form in email field).

Tournament thread, with full list of rules:
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1076690

[Entry format]

• 30 seconds entry max of stylish gameplay (combos/combat that you think looks good).
• Son of Sparda Difficulty or above (No LDK).
• No easy automatic mode.
• No Super Costumes.
• All levels of Bloody Palace can be used.
• No Piecing together multiple segments(clean cut).
• Lady and Trish entries due 22nd of July 12:01 am.
• Vergil Entries due 23rd of July 12:01 am

Are we doing 30 seconds with taunt or without? Would be great if taunt wasn't counted as it is wasted footage or would need be cut out entirely.

 

[direct_quote]

Are we doing 30 seconds with taunt or without? Would be great if taunt wasn't counted as it is wasted footage or would need be cut out entirely.

Good question, I think if you go a couple seconds after the time limit with a taunt that's fine, but the taunt is included in the time limit. Otherwise everyone might want to resubmit an entry.

 

[BumblebeeCody]

EVO now over so I can finally stream. Relaxing with Lady tonight. Getting her combos put
Twitch.tv/bumblebeecody

Ok how the fuck do I fight Blitz with Trish?

Boomerange and Pandora.

Some pointers on these fights?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CfqFzBM1xc0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tB9z4QWP5uQ

Utilise your charge shot more. Less Super Nero too.

 

[Seyavesh]

so i guess my dumb effects recolor mod is more or less to the point where i'm happy with it besides pretty major things that i don't know how to fix

http://www.mediafire.com/download/t1n3zn4iva2102h

i ended up replacing trish's overdrive effect with dante's bc it's the exact same but with the color scheme i want

and also i added the full house effect to trish's divekick so that it appears when it hits an enemy. i wish it triggered all the time but i can't find vergil's starfall effect to see if it works properly with trish's divekick to make the effect always come out as it looks even cooler on the rare occasions that it comes out when her divekick whiffs

 

[Golnei]

so i guess my dumb effects recolor mod is more or less to the point where i'm happy with it besides pretty major things that i don't know how to fix

http://www.mediafire.com/download/t1n3zn4iva2102h

It's fantastic; thanks for uploading it. The unaltered Drive sparks and lighting effects are minor enough to not really be an issue, though hopefully you manage to replace them as well eventually.

Also, have you considered swapping Luce & Ombre's muzzle flash with the one from Lady's Two Hand / Trigger Happy? It'd probably fit the rest of the colour scheme fairly well.

 

[Seyavesh]

It's fantastic; thanks for uploading it. The unaltered Drive sparks and lighting effects are minor enough to not really be an issue, though hopefully you manage to replace them as well eventually.

Also, have you considered swapping Luce & Ombre's muzzle flash with the one from Lady's Two Hand / Trigger Happy? It'd probably fit the rest of the colour scheme fairly well.

if i knew the effect IDs for stuff i definitely would but man, digging through trish's was pretty hellish

 

[lowhighkang_LHK]

All these mods look great.

 

[Tuffty]

I love the pacing and narrative buildup of DMC3 up to the final battle with Vergil.So it's such a letdown to go to the final boss with an old man which is just break shield -> break guard -> wail on him a bit -> repeat.

 

[gunbo13]

Still the problem, Vergil kills shit way too fast. Good luck pulling off any extravagant combos outside debug when most enemies fall in a few seconds.

His play really is more like a true style tournament or broke.

 

[Golnei]

The Claire reskin is done, if anyone wanted it.

It'd have been nice if there were a way to isolate Kyrie's hair from the headpiece that she wears in the opening, but Lady's hair recoloured doesn't look that bad.

if i knew the effect IDs for stuff i definitely would but man, digging through trish's was pretty hellish

It must have been painful, especially since her effects are undocumented. The closest I came to doing something similar was attempting to replace the Sky Star glyphs with Agnus' portal and giving up after the first few hours of trial and error. I can't exactly blame you for not wanting to torture yourself further, given the amount you've already done...

 

[T.O.P]

Ok i bought this last night, started a playthrough with Virgil on normal and i'm up to chapter 12

Loving the game (apart from the awful level design)

But i'm having huge problems against the guys with the shields, especially when in group, i can't seem to understand their attack pattern at all and the shields itself are a huge pain in the ass to me

And second thing, is there some kind of evasion skill? his teleport/B Button thingy seems to be more of a "in yo face" follow up skill than an evasion one

I'm asking because sometime i just want to get the fuck out a group of enemies kicking my ass and i have no idea how

 

[Sephzilla]

Ok i bought this last night, started a playthrough with Virgil on normal and i'm up to chapter 12

Loving the game (apart from the awful level design)

But i'm having huge problems against the guys with the shields, especially when in group, i can't seem to understand their attack pattern at all and the shields itself are a huge pain in the ass to me

And second thing, is there some kind of evasion skill? his teleport/B Button thingy seems to be more of a "in yo face" follow up skill than an evasion one

I'm asking because sometime i just want to get the fuck out a group of enemies kicking my ass and i have no idea how

Vergil's DT gives him teleport options to disengage

 

[GuardianE]

Ok i bought this last night, started a playthrough with Virgil on normal and i'm up to chapter 12

Loving the game (apart from the awful level design)

But i'm having huge problems against the guys with the shields, especially when in group, i can't seem to understand their attack pattern at all and the shields itself are a huge pain in the ass to me

And second thing, is there some kind of evasion skill? his teleport/B Button thingy seems to be more of a "in yo face" follow up skill than an evasion one

I'm asking because sometime i just want to get the fuck out a group of enemies kicking my ass and i have no idea how

Each character has their own maneuverability options. Vergil can only teleport away with Trick Down in Devil trigger. That said, you can use his Grim trick as an evasion up close because it has generous invincibility frames.

Universal dodge options are side roll and jump. The regular jump has substantial invincibility at the startup so you can use it as a dodge. Side roll has more recovery, but more lateral movement.

For the Angelos as Vergil, try rapid slashing straight through them to come at them from behind.

 

[.....]

Got to lvl 85 in Ladys BP and got murdered. Lady has the worst maneuverability ever. Starting to get irritated .

 

[BumblebeeCody]

Still the problem, Vergil kills shit way too fast. Good luck pulling off any extravagant combos outside debug when most enemies fall in a few seconds.

His play really is more like a true style tournament or broke.

That's what I've been saying from the start. Even the top players. We've all been like "yeah, Vergil is broken. Like stupid Broken".
Yeah it's established Dante is a broken character in this game. But he's fun broken.
Vergil is just stupid broken. He needs tweaking.

 

[TreIII]

With Sengoku BASARA 4: Sumeragi launching this week, I get to have both it and DMC4SE to occupy my stylish action game time. Easily one of the best summers in gaming I've had in ages.

Happy 10th to DMC's little brother, BASARA, on the same token.

 

[Dahbomb]

Nah Vergil is pretty damn fun too.

Also it was established day -90 that Vergil was broken. I don't know why people are stating the obvious a 100 times already.

Might as well start saying the sky is blue and water is wet.

 

[BumblebeeCody]

Nah Vergil is pretty damn fun too.

Also it was established day -90 that Vergil was broken. I don't know why people are stating the obvious a 100 times already.

Might as well start saying the sky is blue and water is wet.

Yeah Vegil is hype, but he just needs tweaking is all.

Also, there was a Capcom DMC4: SE Tournament. Did. Not. Know. That.

http://www.capcom-unity.com/gregama...-4-special-edition-style-tournament---round-1

Also, the water is wet? Did. Not. Know. That.

 

[robotzombie]

With Sengoku BASARA 4: Sumeragi launching this week, I get to have both it and DMC4SE to occupy my stylish action game time. Easily one of the best summers in gaming I've had in ages.

Happy 10th to DMC's little brother, BASARA, on the same token.

Oh yeah! Only a couple days now...

 

[GuardianE]

Also, there was a Capcom DMC4: SE Tournament. Did. Not. Know. That.

http://www.capcom-unity.com/gregama...-4-special-edition-style-tournament---round-1

I meant to post a reminder about it, but EVO hype got in the way. Not a lot of time on that one. Luckily, there are plenty of characters, so surely there'll be plenty of tournaments.

 

[direct_quote]

Vergil would have been ripe for a must style mode....

 

[Snacks the sober sea lion]

What do you mean? Should they nerf his damage?

What are Vergil's best moves for juggling and jump canceling?

 

[GuardianE]

What do you mean? Should they nerf his damage?

What are Vergil's best moves for juggling and jump canceling?

Vergil just has ridiculous damage, ridiculous hitboxes, ridiculous invincibility, ridiculous mobility... he's ridiculous. He's practically a super character. That said, he seems sort of built for LDK mode, and he was admittedly designed to be incredibly powerful even there by Itsuno. I think they'd balance him out more in a future iteration.

Vergil can juggle with everything. Summon swords, blistering swords, Roundtrip, Starfall, Yamato Air combo B... even DT air stinger if you teleport cancel the end of it. Vergil's teleport makes enemy step canceling almost superfluous (almost). He has unlimited teleports/moves in the air. There are no restrictions. And there are technically no height restrictions on his air moves either (since you can switch from Beowulf which has no height restriction, into another weapon immediately after leaving the ground). Enemy step canceling with Vergil is mostly about position now, rather than maintaining combos.

 

[gunbo13]

Vergil is super turbo Akuma with a 10 frame advantage. I'll be interested to see how the Capcom style tournament goes with him because he kills stuff way too fast. I have long detailed combos, trust me, but everything I fight aside from bosses dies before I can even get started. I can do sick stuff in debug but with damage on my stuff gets turned to boredom. Nothing survives nearly long enough.

 

[Snacks the sober sea lion]

The bosses really can't handle Vergil's teleport.

I don't know why Vergil always teleports when I try to use Kick 13. The move comes out but is instantly canceled if any enemy has a sword in it.

 

[lowhighkang_LHK]

The Claire reskin is done, if anyone wanted it.



It'd have been nice if there were a way to isolate Kyrie's hair from the headpiece that she wears in the opening, but Lady's hair recoloured doesn't look that bad.



It must have been painful, especially since her effects are undocumented. The closest I came to doing something similar was attempting to replace the Sky Star glyphs with Agnus' portal and giving up after the first few hours of trial and error. I can't exactly blame you for not wanting to torture yourself further, given the amount you've already done...

You should tweet that to itsuno. So good.

 

[NIGHT-]

About to buy this for ps4. Are the graphics about the equivalent of dmc4 on high settings on PC?

 

[GuardianE]

About to buy this for ps4. Are the graphics about the equivalent of dmc4 on high settings on PC?

As good as High, but maybe not as good as the highest setting? The textures are better than the original version, but there's a distinct lack of solid AA. There's also added motion blur and depth of field, which are intended to be enhancements but some people don't like them.

Here's the digital foundry face off:
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-2015-devil-may-cry-4-special-edition-face-off

 

[Rean]

Hey DMCGAF, I finally got my hands on the physical version after being away from home for a couple weeks, and I'm gonna giveaway the Lady and Trish alternate costumes with the 300000 red orbs code because I probably won't make another account since I already have the costumes on the digital version. If anyone wants the code be the first to quote this.

That the gloria and dmc3 one? I'd take them.

PM'd

 

[Papercuts]

Hey DMCGAF, I finally got my hands on the physical version after being away from home for a couple weeks, and I'm gonna giveaway the Lady and Trish alternate costumes with the 300000 red orbs code because I probably won't make another account since I already have the costumes on the digital version. If anyone wants the code be the first to quote this.

That the gloria and dmc3 one? I'd take them.