I hope HDR support is detailed/mandated.
based off what I was reading those specs didn't seem that much more up an upgrade and fit in with the premium marketing idea.
I just want more 60fps games that look like UC4 and GOW honestly. Specs mean very little to me. But it does seem kinda stupid to offer a more powerful box and not have it substantially more powerful.
I just wish it had some more CPU grunt and RAM bandwidth. I'm still fine with this being marketed as a 4K ready PS4, that's something I'd still buy, but I was hoping for more 60fps on this machine. Oh well. Hopefully it's not too expensive.If these specs turn out to be final Sony is delusional if they think this will keep people from migrating to PC. I would prefer to stick to console only, but this half-step will push me back into PC gaming for sure(not interested in Scorpio).
$399 with the PS4 dropping to $299 is my initial thought looking at the specs in this document. I guess the final price will come down to the rest of the spec, with a 4K blu-ray drive and 2TB hard drive I could see the price closer to $499.
I hope HDR support is detailed/mandated.
Dissapointing CPU upgrade...I was hoping for the Zen 5TF early 2017 rumor. This year seems like too much stuff is coming out with VR and a possible slim.
I hope things still change, but looking less and less likely.
Late September requires a patch. Games have to ship with it in October.
I just wish it had some more CPU grunt and RAM bandwidth. I'm still fine with this being marketed as a 4K ready PS4, that's something I'd still buy, but I was hoping for more 60fps on this machine. Oh well. Hopefully it's not too expensive.
I just wish it had some more CPU grunt and RAM bandwidth. I'm still fine with this being marketed as a 4K ready PS4, that's something I'd still buy, but I was hoping for more 60fps on this machine. Oh well. Hopefully it's not too expensive.
Dissapointing CPU upgrade...I was hoping for the Zen 5TF early 2017 rumor. This year seems like too much stuff is coming out with VR and a possible slim.
I hope things still change, but looking less and less likely.
If these specs turn out to be final Sony is delusional if they think this will keep people from migrating to PC. I would prefer to stick to console only, but this half-step will push me back into PC gaming for sure(not interested in Scorpio). All this reconstruction/projection talk is not appealing at all.
No matter what, $499 would be a stupid bussiness decision.Dissapointing CPU upgrade...I was hoping for the Zen 5TF early 2017 rumor. This year seems like too much stuff is coming out with VR and a possible slim.
I hope things still change, but looking less and less likely.
1090 framerate...framerate...framerate.....lighting...effects....frame rate>>>>>>>>>>4K
I hope HDR support is detailed/mandated.
Yeah, also disappointing thinking we need 4K display and fancy rendering.
Damn 1080p is just fine, just want my open world games with better frame rates.
If these specs turn out to be final Sony is delusional if they think this will keep people from migrating to PC. I would prefer to stick to console only, but this half-step will push me back into PC gaming for sure(not interested in Scorpio). All this reconstruction/projection talk is not appealing at all.
Yah I have a feeling it will be $499, but the core hardware isn't really worth it IMO. The build cost shouldn't really be any greater than the launch PS4 was, which was more or less profitable from the get go. I guess they can stick a big HDD in there to help justify the inflated price somewhat.
They gotta be careful though because I doubt the Scorpio will be anymore than $499. The ~1 year headstart helps but I dunno, it sounds expensive to me at that price.
It means that SE doesn't have any obligation to have a NEO mode in XV, patching later is up to the developer but if you're shipping later than that date you must support NEO. That's what they mean I think.
Wait, so a PS4 right now will not push you into PC gaming, but an optional upgrade to the one you already have not being powerful enough would push you into PC? So why exactly would NEO even matter in that case if you were going to go to PC anyway despite already owning a PS4?
This is why i don't think the concept of iterative units makes any sense and why i'm generally not interested in NEO or Scorpio. Your still just paying for a unit to play current games a little better. The hardware neccesary for that kind of upgrade is going to generally not be worth it if it doesn't hit the requirements of many gamers to make such an upgrade worth it.
Especially if they bring out PS5 with the full fat ZEN, much stronger GPU, much better RAM ect complete with BC of PS4 and NEO games, it makes owning a NEO pointless in general outside of the few years of it being on the market.
I'd rather Sony have just waited with PS4's hardware and upgraded to PS5 like normal.
I was already thinking about building a PC after it became apparent just how underpowred these consoles were. It was just a matter of when and people were saying it would smart to hold off with the new tech coming from AMD and Nvidia(which is starting to happen now). Then I thought maybe this PS4 Neo would be enough to satisfy me performance wise, but it won't be if these specs are final. Maybe I'm wrong and this thing will punch above its weight in reality, but on paper it is super underwhelming.
So you started with PC gaming and then went PS4 with plans to go back to PC gaming? Can I ask why?
Yeah, then what is MS doing with Scorpio? Just stealth resetting because XB1 lost? Theyve said they can make a substantially more powerful box without alienating anyone, its PR but if these things are b/c, I dont see whats the harm in offering the best available tech in 2016 for a premium PS4. Again, I just keep coming back to whats the point?"Then wait for PS5. The concept of an iterative unit is what this is, its not intended to be a substantially more powerful box just to play PS4 games, Sony don't have the money to burn to invest into something like that. Maybe when PS5 comes out, you'll get the 60fps patches to those NEO games, cause ZEN will have been fully viable by that time.
Andrew house has also doubled down on generational cycles, and using that power to better gaming as one of their advantages in closed hardware during talks with NEO. They aren't getting rid of that by introducing NEO as a substantially stronger platform that would limit the appeal of a PS5, as that would either be a much smaller jump from NEO, or take much longer to show up to get a tangible hardware upgrade and convince people to upgrade to that.
Perhaps...I wonder if the reason they are sticking with Jaguar is ease of development between PS4 and Neo mode.
Really? even if the base PS4 is half that? I dunno, that seems kinda attractive IMO. A entry model console with thousands of games that look amazing, or a premium console with a bigger HDD, better tech that makes those games look even better.No matter what, $499 would be a stupid bussiness decision.
So I've read what reads like genuine Neo dev docs as described by GB/DF. I have PM'd a mod to ask about posting the link but haven't had a reply yet.
Nothing groundbreaking in there but it does reaffirm to me that Jaguar+36CUs and 4.2TF is a lock.
It'd be stupider in 2017.Guymelef said:No matter what, $499 would be a stupid bussiness decision.
Trying to reset consoles alltogether - not just XB1.Omnistalgic said:Yeah, then what is MS doing with Scorpio?
I'd have never guessed.I'd rather Sony have just waited with PS4's hardware and upgraded to PS5 like normal.
It's not unheard of that the up the specifications in the final console, just look at PS4, so it's not a lock until they say so Feel free to post a link.
That PDF seems fishy. Very odd that SIE don't know their own name, and the document was last modified on 4/20, yet talks about May in the past tense.
What about PS4 specs? 1.84TF was leaked 18 months before launch without change....