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Digital Foundry: Performance Analysis: The Evil Within
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phant0m
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wolfenstein: TNO ran great on the ps4.
SlasherJPC
Banned
I'm playing both versions and I'm not seeing this choppy constant xbox one mess that DF is mentioning and I'm not blind to the framerate issues on both versions. So.... I don't know what they are talking about.
it always makes me feel so stupid, because to me it is obvious but clearly I am missing something?
How the fuck does it get past quality control, it baffles me senseless that they could sit there and go "that will do"
but the fact it is not great on any platform suggests that indeed they just went
How the fuck does it get past quality control, it baffles me senseless that they could sit there and go "that will do"
but the fact it is not great on any platform suggests that indeed they just went
mullet2000
Member
Those of you who are saying something along these lines (you aren't the first one) are really trying too hard.
Performance has already changed on both platforms since it launched yesterday. They're just saying it still performs badly and could change again. That's all. That's really all.
id-tech 5 is just a complete disaster it seems.
good it's a dead engine now.
Arkane Studios, Also owned by Zenimax used UE3 on Dishonored and got CryEngine 3 for their next game.
good it's a dead engine now.
Arkane Studios, Also owned by Zenimax used UE3 on Dishonored and got CryEngine 3 for their next game.
I played the X1 version at EGX a month ago so this is not completely true.
That said it is clearly a technical mess of a game..such a shame as I fancied it but will wait till cheaper.
Crimsonclaw111
Member
If you played the pc version, you'd feel similarly. Sometimes 60fps in the game doesn't feel like it should.
If you don't notice, that's great. But a lot of people have been complaining about the issue.
joey_bone_bomb
Member
Please let this be satire/ joke post/ trolling, ...anything.
popsicle_sundays
Member
Aside from the initial opening scene my PS4 version has been decent. I would say villiage levels run around 25-27 FPS though but for some reason it really doesn't bother me with the game.
Probably a good idea. No one would pay to use this shitty ass engine anyways. Carmack has always been a great speaker but when it comes down to it dude has been steady taking L's since forever ago.
What is ULMB?
Please reflect again: you are NOT sensitive too framerate issues.
The PC version really does deserve its own article. So many strange design decicions that will take some time to dive into.
The opening areas really leave a poor initial impression, both in terms of gameplay and performance.
The opening areas really leave a poor initial impression, both in terms of gameplay and performance.
Jessie.Bristol
Member
Yeah, The Order is 1920 x 800 and The Evil Within on PS4 is 1920 x 768. So The Order is pushing 61,440 more pixels.
It's the same case with The Order.
Some of these "cinematic" devs don't know what they're doing/talking about.
while I certainly understand that some people are more sensitive to framerate than others, and some people care more than others, for me it varies by game -- and while I agree with everyone else that 60 fps as a rule is always best regardless of genre, (TLOU RM proves this) the absence of it is felt far more in some games than others.
In the case of TEW, this is a game lavishly adorned with various filters, effects, glows, and carefully thought out, highly contrasted lighting. With this overall soft and "well-mixed", for lack of a better term, look -- The presentation isn't as sensitive to framerate as that of, say, an action heavy FPS or a racing game.
So, yea, this is a game with a highly processed presentation and suspenseful pacing. I'll admit I've noticed a few dips in framerate, and the fact that this is mainly right at the beginning of the game is probably feeding the hysterical reaction we're seeing from some, but as an entire experience -- I just wouldn't characterize this game as one with a particular framerate issue. It, yes, feels fine to me.
It'd be such a shame if anyone missed out on this terrific game because they are so preoccupied with letterboxes or small fluxuations in framerate. Games like this don't come along every year. Anyone who liked RE4 or likes survival horror is doing themselves a horrible disservice if they pass on this over something technical.
if serious, case in point. what a shame.
This is Bethesda QA. Remember Skyrim PS3 in its zero FPS glory?it always makes me feel so stupid, because to me it is obvious but clearly I am missing something?
How the fuck does it get past quality control, it baffles me senseless that they could sit there and go "that will do"
but the fact it is not great on any platform suggests that indeed they just went
Look at the two videos. The 30 fps on XO is not the same as 30 fps on PS4 in this case.
Seriously? I think not.
I like how that's what you got out of the entire article.
"Massive disadvantages overall on the xbox one, but a few areas have a slight advantage"
"Yes!"
That doesn't sound great at all.
Crimsonclaw111
Member
This is a great time to plug Grief, who recommends an aspect ratio of 2 on the PC version. Effectively gets rid of the black bars without destroying the FOV.
Doom uses id-tech 6. so I think it's safe to say that id-tech5 is already dead.
John Carmack's Id-tech 4 was a complete and utter mess and id-tech 5 is a complete failure. this guys is past his glory day for sure. good thing that id-tech 6 will be Carmack-free.
SerTapTap
Member
I sure hope so. Only thing it's good for is 60 FPS (which TEW hilariously managed to avoid) and it actually causes weird issues on PC above 60 so eh. Competition and blah blah blah, but I see increasingly little reason to use not UE4
Jessie.Bristol
Member
One thing I can't believe is how they couldn't get the Xbox One version up to the PS4 resolution of 1920 x 768. I mean, considering 1600 x 900 is just 34,560 pixels less. This game just seems like a technical mess, not to mention the frame pacing issue (is is that?) on Xbox One. Should be getting my copy from GameFly today, was thinking about buying it digitally... but no so sure now.
The XBO situ might explain why I just couldn't control it well at EGX, not being funny but the issues DF state combined with sitting so close and not being used to the XBO controller probably would add up.
I hope so because I was interested in picking this up at some point but playing it put me off.
I hope so because I was interested in picking this up at some point but playing it put me off.
SteveWinwood
Member
still buying on pc this weekend
gonna be a blast im excited
gonna be a blast im excited
This is potentially the last game that uses that abomination. Only reason it was forced on Tango is because it didn't cost Bethesda a penny.
Although, who knows what idTech6 really is, it might a continuation of this shitshow.
AgentOtaku
Member
Funnily enough, ive found the framerate to be solid so far on PS4. The IQ is also insane at times (0__O)
The worst I've ever seen, IIRC, was the original Assassin's Creed on PS3. I swear, during crowded chase scenes the framerate dropped into the single digits. The game was approaching a literally unplayable state.
id Tech 4 was a weird one but I will say that Doom 3 still looks and moves beautifully ten years later. It holds up a hell of a lot better than its contemporaries. Have you seen Far Cry 1 lately? Yuck.
VE3TRO
Formerly Gizmowned
Where are the links to download the 2 clips? Can't see it on the page.
Edit: Never mind I see them, I usually see them on the left side bar but these are in the comments.
XB1 - http://images.eurogamer.net/2014/net/xo-tew.mp4
PS4 - http://images.eurogamer.net/2014/net/ps4-tew.mp4
Edit: Never mind I see them, I usually see them on the left side bar but these are in the comments.
XB1 - http://images.eurogamer.net/2014/net/xo-tew.mp4
PS4 - http://images.eurogamer.net/2014/net/ps4-tew.mp4
Hibiki Kurosawa
Member
I'm still waiting to hear how it is on PS3/360.
WickedLaharl
Member
The evidence presented does not support your claim.
alexandros
Banned
Very true, Doom 3 is still beautiful. Alas, that was the old PC-focused id Software and not the empty husk that it is today.
I was not against idTech5 in WolfensteinTNO because Machine Games optimized game to work and look really great.
But I don't know any Japanese devs who are strong with engines from the west. Capcom created nice engine with MTFramework, Konami is riding the wave of FoxEngine, Square is fumbling horribly with their engines [CrystalTools, Luminous], but they rarely work with western engines...
But I don't know any Japanese devs who are strong with engines from the west. Capcom created nice engine with MTFramework, Konami is riding the wave of FoxEngine, Square is fumbling horribly with their engines [CrystalTools, Luminous], but they rarely work with western engines...
Here is a guide I wrote up for forcing 60 FPS and a good aspect ratio. Aspect ratio setting of 2 is 960 vertical pixels instead of the extremely uncomfortable 768.
http://m.neogaf.com/showpost.php?p=134318864&postcount=951
Hopefully placeholder for now until we can find a way to adjust the FOV manually. Fully get rid of the bars for full 16:9 with a good FOV, and 60 FPS, just like Mikami intended.
Mikami... how deep the Japanese legends are falling...
Mikami is not a programmer and he is not responsible for his engine. Beside his last game ie. Vanquish had a very unstable framerate too and no one cared.
No doubt. Its a shame tango is owned by Zenimax. They probably pushed Carmack's engine on the team to get some money back on the failure it was.
If it was Mikami in charge of that, he probably would have used UE3 again, which was most likely a much better choice.
alexandros
Banned
Nice work Grief!