I have a feeling that the first Halo 5 screenshots/video thread is going to be a lot of fun.
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I have a feeling that the first Halo 5 screenshots/video thread is going to be a lot of fun.
I definitely seem to recall having issues with some geometry/objects "fizzling" into view until I fiddled with the config files a bit (I can't believe Ubi never pushed out a patch that disabled multithreading in the DX11 renderer considering how broken it is). If I still had the game (or even Blood Dragon) installed I'd try to replicate it, but alas.
I hope that works better than it sounds like it does, looks like it could be very distracting if it's happening all the time for distant objects.An example of the weird fuzzing.
SenjutsuSage
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lol still day one. And with regards to the appearance of nearby objects, such as the crafted vehicles, how else are vehicles that are built unrealistically fast out of thin air suppose to appear?
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Very true.
Is this final build? GB guys were playing an older build in their quick look and it seemed fine.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KXwud8fSNhs&feature=player_detailpage#t=221
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KXwud8fSNhs&feature=player_detailpage#t=221
Ah now I remember, Alan Wake had the same effect.
Slideshows are not fun.
Lol what?
I give you the pixels, though 1080p is always better than 720p but fps can't be argued with. Fps in the low 20s significantly decreases the fun.
This would be final, or at least review or retail build yes. And the video you linked to has exactly the same issues, including the weird fuzzing in and out of objects. It's just it's less apparent because it's such a low quality compressed video, on YouTube of all places.
zomgbbqftw
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So that's Ryse and DR3 looking crap. Must be tough.
Except that the difference in image quality was due in part to digital foundry. Gaf called them on it, they addressed it and we all moved on and watched Jack Frags comparisons. Now they are saying DR3 runs sub 30 with pop in and low res textures. Unless they are outright lying about the Xbone then the game has issues.
hahaha man... It's like you're not real.
WOW. I don't think their choice of rendering the UI in 1080p was a good idea. It's like a picture-in-picture resolution comparison displayed on top of some low-res game footage. Makes it much harder to forget about all those missing pees.
Two PP counters, two resolutions, three fonts.
Two PP counters, two resolutions, three fonts.
Whos shocked?
Am I alone in thinking the graphics of this game aren't really important and they should have just toned them down if the frame rate wasn't holding? I mean who do you think would buy this game for its visuals?
A good/bad frame rate can be a game changing experience
I think they are going to struggle to show people what couldn't have been done here with the 360 as it is, let alone toning the graphics down enough to lock 30.
Just not technical demanding games or with effects missing.
Skyr
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Same here. Forza5 and DR3 were the 2 games that made me think to get the Xbone from the start for exclusives. But that just did it for me.
Maybe someday in the future but now it just aint reasonable to get it day one.. at all.
CassidyIzABeast
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Yeah that's what I was curious about as well.Maybe the butt ugly isn't as distracting while gaming as it is in screenshots taken to showcase specific negatives.
SenjutsuSage
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Trolling aside, I think this game looks great from the videos. Anyway, off to work. This game always looked quite a bit worse in screenshots, and pretty damn solid in motion.
Always-honest
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Ah good I was concerned about your purchasing decisions and was in need of an update. Thanks!
And maybe with a cool animation like he throws a cube on the ground and a car unfolds like a transformer. But then it would probably run sub 20 so thats not possible
or maybe the butt ugly isn't showing because it's a YouTube video that is compressed to hell and back?!
dragonbane
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It isn't. There are current gen games that look much better overall. The requirements are totally different of course and the open world with no loading times and the increased zombie count probably couldn't be done on current gen, but in no way does this game look like it was done on hardware 3 times as powerful as 360 or more.
Pretty unfortunate.
First game that use it is Crysis (2007). Console command is e_dissolve. Uses an 32x32 or 64x64 texture and dissolves it with some kind of mask transforming the texture into the final geometry. Dissolve can be use to transform textures to geometry, to change from a LOD level to another (used in Crysis too), or to bring up assets (used in Crysis with procedural vegetation).
In 2008 GTA IV used the same trick.
cascardian
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Most appropriate GIF in the thread. I salute you, good sir.
Capcom just doesn't care any more.
Phat Michael
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in what world does Ryse look crap? it looks incredible.
Forget teh textures, look at the shaders, look at that blob for a tree !
God damn ! It's like a middle tier last gen game or worse.
People can still distrust DF's image captures on ps4 and xbone, and still be appalled at the shitty framerate of DR3.
Rhazer Fusion
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Am I alone in thinking the graphics of this game aren't really important and they should have just toned them down if the frame rate wasn't holding? I mean who do you think would buy this game for its visuals?
A good/bad frame rate can be a game changing experience
I thought most people would be buying it for it's visuals because it is a next generation game and DR1 and DR2 looked good for their time. Also, if they tone the graphics down any further, I am sure that wouldn't sit too well with people since several people in thread think the screenshots do not look so impressive.
If they turned off the post processing & lowered the poly count / texture res you would still have largely the same game experience, just a bit more ugly and a lot more playable. Those direct feed screens are not the greatest but the ones showcasing the texture pop in are also meant to be not so common according to the article.
Not sure you know where 'fun' comes from, but it's a combination of all aspects of a game, frame rate is one of those aspects and it has a massive effect on a game experience. In fact there was never a time where fps was not a big part of the 'fun' factor of a game, that's not to say a game cannot be fun at a low framerate (Hello many N64 games) but if you went back in time and played some of your favorite SNES and Genesis platformers at 20fps you would punch a hole in your television.
Sorry I wasn't trying to say people don't buy games based on their visuals (DR1 was actually very impressive when it came out imo) just that this particular game is not being marketed on its stunning visuals, so sacrificing gameplay for slightly above average looks seems like a terrible decision.
Whiteshirt
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Sub 30 FPS, aliasing everywhere, texture quality that is equal to megatextures loading poorly, pop-in everywhere.
Are you actually being serious...? This is anything but good.
Now that you mention it I remember seeing something like that a lot and being really annoyed by it.
youtube?
Rhazer Fusion
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Dead Rising only looks visually poor, it'll probably still be fun.
Ryse is a different story.
Ludicrous Speed
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It's a shame it has these issues. The game does look like a lot of fun. I'm holding out hope that this comes to the pc with 60+ fps and 1080p+ resolution
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