Dark_AnNiaLatOr
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Right after the conference I was really thinking about selling it, but I wanna play mgs2 and mgs3 on it soooo bad.
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Does PS Vita exist / Lack of Vita games at E3
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TheFLYINGManga_Ka
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I think it's a little of both.
I'm definitely not selling it because there are good games I'm interested in like P4G and SFxT. But I am regretting that maybe I should've waited for a price drop before buying on impulse.
Of course we made a poor purchasing decision. That's why we're upset!
No one like buying a dying platform. Trust me, I've had lot's of experience.
It's actually on Wednesday, it's the software showcase on Nintendo's E3 site.
TheNatural
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E3 is always fun because of the damage control.
***Product X has a horrible showing, Product X has been bombing horribly in sales up until E3, and Company X shows no signs of doing anything to improve***
Gotta love this time of year.
***Product X has a horrible showing, Product X has been bombing horribly in sales up until E3, and Company X shows no signs of doing anything to improve***
KoolAidDrinkingDamageController said:
Gotta love this time of year.
Pretty much the outlook I'm trying to have for my Vita
Seriously, if it weren't for the amazing RPGs I missed on PSP, I would be totally sad about my Vita purchase. It's enough for me now though! I'm just hoping I find enough to keep me using it until a steadier stream of releases picks up later on.I'm not selling mine, of course. And I firmly believe that the handheld is worth owning. But I was expecting more from Sony at this E3, way more. And I'm way more concerned about Vita's future after today. That's not a good thing. No way to spin it. Sony's most important conference of the year was a total bust.
in some ways of course you're right, but it's a matter of relativity
Nintendo fans were disappointed because the 3DS didn't do as well as (surpass?) the DS.
Sony fans were sad because the Vita is doing much worse than the PSP and things don't look good.
That's certainly pessimistic! It would have a longer life than the VB, though. I was about to challenge your statement, stating that there's no way such a thing could happen, but then I checked wikipedia first...
Man, I don't expect Vita to bomb that hard though.Agreed. I was expecting Sony to try and go the xbox glass route and try to pimp it as an additional tool for the ps3 more than they did to give it a sort of secondary function beyond handheld gaming (due to the negative forecasts by most for the medium). I'm not exactly disappointed that they didn't go this route, though. But I would have preferred it over dragging their feet in dirt
3DS is doing better than DS....
not outside of japan. the redesign + nsmb2 is their last hope.
I'm more positive for the PS4 today. The Vita is clearly just an afterthought for Sony, so all of their development resources will be spent on PS4 titles.
The latter, unless you really, really had to have one of its launch games. The whole system's had a bit of a joke of a release schedule for awhile. I don't know why so many bit so early. The number of times I saw a poster saying "what an amazing piece of kit" and bought it just based on the high end hardware made me laugh. Now people are wondering where the games are. Surprise.
It worked for them last time, let's see if it does the trick again.
frAntic_Frog
Member
look in the main forum outside of this thread...there are vita games being showcased/announced. its too bad sony was too inept to show more vita games during the televised conference
Well I wouldn't say last hope but yeah, 3DS could be doing a lot better outside Japan and even Iwata has acknowledged that.
Well, at least in NA, is doing better than dead numbers. Is a viable platform.
Like reassuring gamers the first E3 after launch that the 3DS isn't going away by making a point to show off gameplay footage of Paper Mario, Kid Icarus, Mario Kart 7, Super Mario 3D Land, RE: Revelations, Ace Combat, Star Fox, Ocarina of Time, Tekken, RE: Mercenaries, Luigi's Mansion, MGS3, etc.
That said I hope there still is Vita news coming this E3 and Sony was just too stupid to prioritize it over Wonderbooks in their conference.
Remember how we all used to conjecture about a MS Xbox handheld? Boy, did they dodge a bullet.
ThatObviousUser
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I wouldn't say "last." The 3DS is selling at such a level that, yes, it's hard to classify as "good," it's still "alive" enough that any potentially big Brain Age-level success could ignite it at any time.
Also, Pokemon.
Then you or another member should start an awareness thread
I'm probably browsing over them and/or using my subs too much.Edit: On second look, maybe they don't exist and you're pulling our leg? Not surprised, unless I've gone blind
PopcornMegaphone
Banned
The E3 presentation is the single most important event for Sony's gaming division.
You don't seem to understand the magnitude of difference between the Vita's and 3DS's positions right now and back then.
Is not like WM7 is catching fire... It would have been a better investment that the Kin imo.
famousmortimer
Banned
It was a tactical decision by sony to leave the vita stuff on the floor, and from what i hear the showing on the floor is HUGE, and not on the stage. But it's a tactical decision they got wrong. I agree with what a lot of what the vita defenders are saying in here, but the truth of the matter is that threads like this wouldn't be popping up in every videogame forum across the internet if Sony handled this better.
But the weirdest thing to me, and this is just completely fucking bizarre and I still can't wrap my head around it, is that they devoted some time to talk about PS Suite (or PS Mobile...) and they didn't once mention it being on the fucking vita.
I mean, really?!?!?
But the weirdest thing to me, and this is just completely fucking bizarre and I still can't wrap my head around it, is that they devoted some time to talk about PS Suite (or PS Mobile...) and they didn't once mention it being on the fucking vita.
I mean, really?!?!?
No, of course not, but how much money would they have sunk into a dedicated handheld?
It would have been a better investment that the Kin imo.
Uhm...what? The Playstation brand is the only thing keeping Sony alive right now and the PS3 is only a few million (seemingly < 3 million) behind Microsoft worldwide in console sales. How does the Vita having no support signal ANYTHING for the PS4?
Sometimes gaffers just pull the most insane shit out of their asses.
famousmortimer
Banned
It's also true.
MS's last two conferences have basically been them saying "hi gamers, we, um, we're gonna see someone else." and sales have gone through the roof. E3 doesn't mean shit.
That said, that doesn't change the fact that the Vita is off an AWFUL start at it.
It would have been a better investment that the Kin imo.
Haha. They know how to lose money, that's for sure. Makes me wonder how they knew to stay out of this one.
also realize that the initial reception of the ds was skeptical as fuck and it wasn't until the ds had a fully decent library and a lot of 'this is a new experience' type of handheld games for women/other demographics that it exploded?
so not only does the 3ds have the DS to help it out in terms of familiarity, but it also is now competing with the cell phone and tablet market which was not in existence when the DS was growing and became a huge success.
chances of 3ds following in DS's footsteps? Slim. Even if it gets more games.
PopcornMegaphone
Banned
MS focused on gamers and their console. Just not GAF gamers. It worked like a charm.
With Vita, Sony focused on nothing.
E3 conference shows the direction the company is heading. The last few MS conferences have been all about Kinect and that's what they've focused on. Nintendo's E3 2008 showed that Nintendo had gone in full casual mode and they really were at that time. etc.
famousmortimer
Banned
I agree with you about sony.
But "Gaf gamers" are who watch and pay attention to e3 and the news that comes out of e3. That's why Microsoft's lackluster showings don't matter. The 360 is selling because it's a great system, not because it has great E3s. It sucks at E3, especially lately.
Last year it was near universal that Sony had a better E3 than MS. Last year MS sold more consoles than Sony.
E3 doesn't matter. I'm not saying this to defend the vita. Fuck the vita. I'm saying this as a matter of fact.
Ken Masters
Banned
Was it just or was there no vita mention except ps3 ports and no ps+ vita support
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thepotatoman
Unconfirmed Member
I'm certainly worried about the Vita's long term success and I do believe that is probably because of the software lineup first and the price second. I don't know what there would be left to save it if TGS doesn't show some really good games to get at least Japan to care about it.
But for me personally, I'm not super worried. I have a long list of already announced games that I am very interested and would buy if i had the time and money too. Assassins Creed, Gravity Rush, upcoming NIS games, upcoming Xseed games, Persona 4 golden and arena, Playstation all stars, the imported Miku game, along with some launch games i missed like Virtua Tennis and luminous. And thats not including the 5 full retail games I already own
I personally don't see where the "lack of games" comes from when all i see for 3ds is Devil Summoner, Mario Land, Mario Kart, Tales of the Abyss, paper mario, and luigis mansion. But I can't argue with statistics. I know I'm in the minority. I guess I'm one of the few people that care about having PS3 games with almost equal graphical power ready to play at any time anywhere.
I just wish I didn't have to listen to the whole Vita is doomed and only an idiot would own one speech every time the subject of the vita came up. It'd be nice to hear podcasts where they aren't instantly going to dismiss everything to further the doomed narrative.
But for me personally, I'm not super worried. I have a long list of already announced games that I am very interested and would buy if i had the time and money too. Assassins Creed, Gravity Rush, upcoming NIS games, upcoming Xseed games, Persona 4 golden and arena, Playstation all stars, the imported Miku game, along with some launch games i missed like Virtua Tennis and luminous. And thats not including the 5 full retail games I already own
I personally don't see where the "lack of games" comes from when all i see for 3ds is Devil Summoner, Mario Land, Mario Kart, Tales of the Abyss, paper mario, and luigis mansion. But I can't argue with statistics. I know I'm in the minority. I guess I'm one of the few people that care about having PS3 games with almost equal graphical power ready to play at any time anywhere.
I just wish I didn't have to listen to the whole Vita is doomed and only an idiot would own one speech every time the subject of the vita came up. It'd be nice to hear podcasts where they aren't instantly going to dismiss everything to further the doomed narrative.
famousmortimer
Banned
It was more dire than that. If you didn't know the Vita existed and you watched that conference, you still wouldn't know the Vita existed. They showed 2 seconds of Ass Creed and they had someone playing the Vita version of Super Smash Sony Clone on stage while the video showed the people playing the PS3 version.
BigTnaples
Todd Howard's Secret GAF Account
This was definitely disappointing.
That said, being both a 3DS and a Vita owner, my Vita is getting the most playtime right now, and looking forward this year, I want more games than i am likely to buy because of cost alone...
Gravity Rush
Assassins Creed
Call of Duty
MGS HD Collection
Zone of Enders HD Collection
a few PS1 Classics
and likely a few unannounced titles as well.
My biggest suprise though was the lack of Killzone and CoD gameplay footage.
I mean, we saw Kilzone alpha footage a year ago, and we have known about CoD for just as long... What gives?
I think they showed they are still supporting it at the conference, it SHOULD have been a stronger showing yes, but Treton still talked it up, they showed a couple games, and a bundle... could have been worse, but not by much.
Hopefully we get some stealth awesomeness via the showfloor over the next few days.
That said, being both a 3DS and a Vita owner, my Vita is getting the most playtime right now, and looking forward this year, I want more games than i am likely to buy because of cost alone...
Gravity Rush
Assassins Creed
Call of Duty
MGS HD Collection
Zone of Enders HD Collection
a few PS1 Classics
and likely a few unannounced titles as well.
My biggest suprise though was the lack of Killzone and CoD gameplay footage.
I mean, we saw Kilzone alpha footage a year ago, and we have known about CoD for just as long... What gives?
I think they showed they are still supporting it at the conference, it SHOULD have been a stronger showing yes, but Treton still talked it up, they showed a couple games, and a bundle... could have been worse, but not by much.
Hopefully we get some stealth awesomeness via the showfloor over the next few days.
I was pretty surprised by the lack of vita stuff at the conference. It was basically 3 announcements that we knew existed already (cod, assassins creed, all stars). No price drop either or ps+ stuff that I can think of.
They really told me they have about as much interest in supporting vita as they did with the PSP for a few years. I don't think I'm going to buy one until I can get some assurances they won't abandon it more than they have.
They really told me they have about as much interest in supporting vita as they did with the PSP for a few years. I don't think I'm going to buy one until I can get some assurances they won't abandon it more than they have.
famousmortimer
Banned
The vita has a bright future as a niche device. I don't think it does as a AAA 100mil seller ubiquitous super device.
I link to my vita blog too much, so I won't, but here's some bullet points on my take away from this whole thing.
1. Sony made a tactical decision to show it off bigtime on the floor and not on stage because handheld games are awkward to show off on 100 foot screens.
This was a tactical mistake. I understand their thinking but they were wrong. The bad press, the bad feeling from gamers... the bad feelings from fans all could have been avoided except they got this very big decision completely fucking wrong.
2. The Vita doesn't have a bright future as an AAA super popular device. But it also doesn't need to be that. For me, personally, I can live off of sony exclusives and indies/B-level titles from third parties. But most people can't. I believe this is the vita's future. We'll get more God of Wars and LBPs and all of that stuff, and tons of indies. Especially with PS Suite. But also Mutant Blob type games.
3. Sony has a complete lack of understanding about how much it bothers consumers that we don't know shit. I dont even fucking care about PSone games, but tell us something. I mean they said "summer" but that's as vague as the already passed "soon after launch."
It's august btw. Or atleast that's what i keep hearing.
4. Call of Duty won't be out this year. If its not in shape to be shown on stage, it's not coming out. I was gonna wait to hear whether its on the floor or not (its not in sony's booth, it might be in activisions) before making that declaration... but I already feel fairly confident that it's not coming. I dont give a fuck personally, as im not a cod guy (though I do like blops). But it will be another huge blow when it's announced that its delayed.
5. Handhelds are bigger in japan, even though the vita is floundering there. There will actually be some big announcements at the vita games heaven thing this month. TGS will also be big.
None of this will be enough to make the vita be a major player. It's a niche device. Make peace with that or sell it. I'm making peace with it since i fit in the niche.
I link to my vita blog too much, so I won't, but here's some bullet points on my take away from this whole thing.
1. Sony made a tactical decision to show it off bigtime on the floor and not on stage because handheld games are awkward to show off on 100 foot screens.
This was a tactical mistake. I understand their thinking but they were wrong. The bad press, the bad feeling from gamers... the bad feelings from fans all could have been avoided except they got this very big decision completely fucking wrong.
2. The Vita doesn't have a bright future as an AAA super popular device. But it also doesn't need to be that. For me, personally, I can live off of sony exclusives and indies/B-level titles from third parties. But most people can't. I believe this is the vita's future. We'll get more God of Wars and LBPs and all of that stuff, and tons of indies. Especially with PS Suite. But also Mutant Blob type games.
3. Sony has a complete lack of understanding about how much it bothers consumers that we don't know shit. I dont even fucking care about PSone games, but tell us something. I mean they said "summer" but that's as vague as the already passed "soon after launch."
It's august btw. Or atleast that's what i keep hearing.
4. Call of Duty won't be out this year. If its not in shape to be shown on stage, it's not coming out. I was gonna wait to hear whether its on the floor or not (its not in sony's booth, it might be in activisions) before making that declaration... but I already feel fairly confident that it's not coming. I dont give a fuck personally, as im not a cod guy (though I do like blops). But it will be another huge blow when it's announced that its delayed.
5. Handhelds are bigger in japan, even though the vita is floundering there. There will actually be some big announcements at the vita games heaven thing this month. TGS will also be big.
None of this will be enough to make the vita be a major player. It's a niche device. Make peace with that or sell it. I'm making peace with it since i fit in the niche.
ClovingWestbrook
Banned
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