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Dota 2 Beta Thread 3: Gunnar Optiks Required [Faster Loading]
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Do you have some replays you wouldn't mind sharing, lazor? There's only so much generic laning advice one can give without going to the replays and finding some specifics to talk about.
What needs to be stressed is that Dota is still a mighty fast game when it comes down to execution. What's different is that you have to start precipitating that action in your head much further in advance, weighing how much health and mana you have for a fight that could break out at any second, commonly one that you create against a hero out of position for a mere instant. The footing in a lane shifts so quickly that it takes people who are new to the game a fair bit of time to adjust to it.
And as support goes, there's really no comparison between LoL and Dota 2. I find the role in the former game loathsome, because even though you accumulate more gold (GoT x2 items and all), your interactions are very much restricted and there are very few surprises. I can play support in Dota and have next to nothing in my inventory and still be doing so much for the team, there's no shortage of things to be doing from minute to minute.
Do you have some replays you wouldn't mind sharing, lazor? There's only so much generic laning advice one can give without going to the replays and finding some specifics to talk about.
What needs to be stressed is that Dota is still a mighty fast game when it comes down to execution. What's different is that you have to start precipitating that action in your head much further in advance, weighing how much health and mana you have for a fight that could break out at any second, commonly one that you create against a hero out of position for a mere instant. The footing in a lane shifts so quickly that it takes people who are new to the game a fair bit of time to adjust to it.
And as support goes, there's really no comparison between LoL and Dota 2. I find the role in the former game loathsome, because even though you accumulate more gold (GoT x2 items and all), your interactions are very much restricted and there are very few surprises. I can play support in Dota and have next to nothing in my inventory and still be doing so much for the team, there's no shortage of things to be doing from minute to minute.
I thought he was talking about feeling safe in your own jungle (like in: the enemy team coming into the jungle for a gank).
But now I get what he was trying to say: Yeah some heroes need to be lucky with the creep spawn, having to fight the birds or the 2 bears (red/yellow one) (sorry don't know the specific names of the jungle creeps
) then some heroes do have a problem indeed.Pureauthor
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Lycan used to be able to jungle with complete impunity too. Those were the days.
Yeah that was lovely, unless they came to gank you a couple of times (which left your team mates free farm) you would be able to come out of the jungle and get roshan at 10:00 and go on a killing spree from there on out
Pureauthor
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If you want the essence for a Greevil, it's usually cheaper to straight up buy the Greevil from someone.
Wait you mean I can get a whole seraphic greevil with 2 essences for under 11 keys? :O
Another trading question:
I have a offhand weapon I won during the Navi games yesterday. How much are Tournament Drops usually worth?
throwawayname
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No, someone isnt interested in spending money for overpriced and ugly skins brah.
I would say they are worth a LOT since they are unique, since only one item drops per event in a match. For example: You got a off hand weapon when Navi scored an Ultra kill in the quarter finals of the International 2. You're literally the only person in the world with that specific item
I would say they are worth a LOT since they are unique, since only one item drops per event in a match. For example: You got a off hand weapon when Navi scored an Ultra kill in the quarter finals of the International 2. You're literally the only person in the world with that specific item
International drops were fancy couriers.
Regular tournament drops are normal cosmetics with the tournament text in the description.
I'm not familiar with the dota trading scene but quite simply you have a one of a kind item, that will never ever be replicated again. Of course it's a virtual item so it will depend on how much someone is willing to pay for it. I would say hold on until the game launches and the economy develops. People who are willing to pay big money for items like that will emerge once things have developed.
SHIT, you can get a TRIPLE unusual essence seraphic greevil for like 8 keys or maybe even less if you're really lucky.
I thought the ones in the International 2 also had a description of the event that made the item unique like: "Navi Dendi Ultrakill vs Moscow5" or something.
That doesn't happen with the other tournament drops??
Don't play support?
Did you not try Zeus, Batrider or Windrunner like we suggested? All three of them can go mid where, if it's really boring there, then it's entirely your own fault.
And the no item scaling for ability based heroes prevents every hero from being the same but we really don't need to do the LoL cookie cutter song and dance again. Most nukers' spells will do lots of damage for the majority of the game so they don't need to scale. If you want to get more damage from them Aghanim's Scepter (for a number of heroes), Refresher Orb and Veil of Discord are all in the game.
They still do.
Thanks for the help guys. I will hold onto my item for now and look for a seraphic greevil...
Any reason why I shouldn't hatch my 1 unusual essence seraphic now?
Then they are still unique if you ask me!
Hold on to it until the game get's released and see if the value increases, would be my advice ;-)
From what I hear/see 1 UE infused eggs hatch into greevils with barely noticeable effects and often aren't worth hatching at all.
That's racist.
Pureauthor
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Not a fan of the crown. Rest of it is aces though.
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Is there a way to rebind the chat wheel to my middle mouse button (clicking on mouse scroll)? In option I cant rebind it to anything right now.
Maybe it's Sven.
perryfarrell
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Yeah this is something the worry about. Valve has to make sure that heroes remain recognizable enough.
Something similar applies to couriers. Why would you ever pick a courier that really stands out from its environment? It will only make it more likely it'll get picked off. Better to choose one that blends in.
I was thinking clinkz on first glance. Honestly it's a terrible set in terms of recognition.
Gyrocopter.
Sgt.Pepper
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Who's ppasarel? This is the first spanish spoken broadcast I've heard.
The first gank was great. Gyro is very strong early game, and this dark seer is great too.
The first gank was great. Gyro is very strong early game, and this dark seer is great too.
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You mean Guyrocopter?
Schweinehund
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I think it looks cool.
The only reason you don't realize who it is right off the bat is because of the camera angle. You can also see his rib cage.
I think it might be impossible for someone to come up with some better doombringer custom items. His base model is way too good.
The only reason you don't realize who it is right off the bat is because of the camera angle. You can also see his rib cage.
I think it might be impossible for someone to come up with some better doombringer custom items. His base model is way too good.
1 UE seraphic jumps and the the flyer version flies like he's on drugs. I think it's rather awesome
1 UE seraphic jumps and the the flyer version flies like he's on drugs. I think it's rather awesome
Wait only the 1 with 1 essence only does this?
After checking a video, I think it's all seraphics that are like that
. 1 UE makes it sorta glow/flash a small yellow lightAfter checking a video, I think it's all seraphics that are like that
damn I thought it had some special value after all :/
CarbonatedFalcon
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Game 2 of Dignitas vs. Empire here is pretty good. People should catch the VOD if they miss it live. Lots of action 
Game 2 of Dignitas vs. Empire here is pretty good. People should catch the VOD if they miss it live. Lots of action
Big WR plays.
Dignitas out? Bummer. Yesterday one of them thought they were going to make top 3.
How's the fnatic team? Tobi seemed to be saying they were pretty strong lately. They didn't do very good before though. IIRC, they're all HoN players right? Have they fully transitioned over recently?
How's the fnatic team? Tobi seemed to be saying they were pretty strong lately. They didn't do very good before though. IIRC, they're all HoN players right? Have they fully transitioned over recently?
They were the top HoN team but most of them started back in WC3 dota. Also yeah, lately they look really strong.
Also they're the team that picks SF the most, so they get my love only for that.
No, I'm saying that flash is a boring, overpowered, one-dimensional spell in context of League of Legends. It being such a stupidly high cooldown only enforces that.
And if you're REALLY watching Dreamhack, and you seriously think there's less active harassment in Dreamhack Dota 2 lanes compared to your League of Legends World Championships, then you're delusional.
H4nn1 is the only one that did. Rest is pure unadulterated hontrash.
edit: I can't remember, is trixi or nova 5th spot? Trixi played dota1 but nova didn't.
CarbonatedFalcon
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The Dreamhack stream just put out 1000 keys in a text file if for some reason some one needs some:
Located in a text file at trance.gg/dota
Located in a text file at trance.gg/dota
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