Not really, but it just hit me today that they hate it beyond reason, I wasn't aware of that.
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Dragon Ball Fighters (2.5D fighter, 3v3, BN/Arc System Works, PC/XB1/PS4) announced
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Not really, but it just hit me today that they hate it beyond reason, I wasn't aware of that.
Crazy Diamond
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Generous roster expectations:
DLC expectations:
My team-of-3: Piccolo, Videl, Whis.
- Goku
- Gohan (teen)
- Vegeta
- Piccolo
- Krillin
- Tien
- Ginyu
- Frieza (final form)
- Future Trunks
- Android 16
- Android 18
- Cell
- Mr. Satan
- Videl
- Great Saiyaman
- Majin Buu
- Gotenks
- Vegito
- Kid Buu
- Beerus
- Whis
- Golden Frieza
- Black
DLC expectations:
- Bardock (pre-order bonus)
- Cooler
- Broly
- Janemba
- Tapion
My team-of-3: Piccolo, Videl, Whis.
BabyFaceKillah
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I wouldn't say they hate it beyond reason.
For me everything up until the end of the Goku black arc has been either cool or just okay but I cannot get into this arc at all the best part so far for me was Goku Vs Gohan everything else is either meh or garbage.
On topic: I wonder how many GT characters they are gonna add.... they are probably just gonna stick with the ssj4s
Vaughngief
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The Yamcha hate in this thread is disappointing.
UnemployedVillain
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Naruto characters are thicker in frame and are more human shaped, and have always been actually.
This toriyama new style isn't that weird of an evolution. One, because... he had actually been doing those sorts of characters decades before super in various 1 off manga and dragon quest, but even more so that that. It kinda just seems like toriyama doing a different style of his orginal one, where everyone was short and fat.
Everyone forgets that, before DBZ everyone was short and fat, well most people. Heck even back then you still have skinny short characters
Super just seems like a sleeker skinner version of this style
No one is forgetting, it's just that you guys keep thinking a gag manga and DBZ (which isn't necessarily serious, but waaaay more so than Dr. Slump) should have the same art styles
... But it did.
Dragon ball had the same art style as Doctor slump for like a hot minute. And then it eventually evolved into what it is, it just evovled again.
Or are we pretending dragon ball didn't happen.
BabyFaceKillah
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wouldnt be surprised if they made Goku black/Rosé the preorder bonus again.
Maybe vegito blue too
Maybe vegito blue too
Kuroi Gogeta
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Damn shame. Does anyone know if it was an original engine? it just seems like such a waste to develop a new engine and do nothing with it after one game.
That's what I expect, just the Z era for now with idk Broly as a preorder chracter or maybe 1 Super character as preorder. Super Butoden came with what like 25 characters counting a preorder. Given this is on consoles with a larger budget I'd say around 20-26 is good.
lvl99 Pixel
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actually i was glad they brought back an anthro villain type character
the wacky stuff is what made dragonball imo
I was commenting on how hes no longer as unique when theres a bunch of clones
They aren't clones. they are literal different realities?
Does super man become less special because there are multiple different superman accross multiple realities? Does any super hero, this isn't specific to dragon ball, and has litterally been happening for decades in marvel and DC comics... which is something Toriyama does not hide he is a fan off
Do you not like those too?
A team consisting of Goku, Bardock and Goku Black would be very interesting lol. I hope they at least try to put some costumes for characters, like Saiyan armor Goku, torn gi Goku, tank top ponytail Trunks, Majin Vegeta, Great Saiyaman Gohan (with not cape nor glasses) and more.
NoctisVsStar
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Majority of western fans never watched DB.
lvl99 Pixel
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except basically everyone in Dragonball is now superman, flying around with extreme speed and power
when everyone is super, no one is
You mean north american fans
Dragon Ball is VERY high regarded here in Latin America
which is really sad, being the best part of the whole Dragon Ball series
except basically everyone in Dragonball is now superman, flying around with extreme speed and power
when everyone is super, no one is
Well no, they are all just super ,fighting other super people. I like that more than just one guy being the coolest and the strongest , and I always will. Because the bad version of that, is just SAO and a litany of self insert fanfiction, and through a tangential relation , the state of sonic the hedgehog right now.
I will always take a bunch of people get to be cool and do cool shit, over 1 guy gets to be cool and do cool shit most of the time. That doesn't mean they aren't acceptions, for me personally I like it when there are more characters with their own stuff
Does Naruto take away from itself by just having a bunch of ninjas? I don't think it does
Whoah , I don't know about that.
But its really good and charming, best though. I like Z waaaayy too much forthat
ForkNetwork
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Is it? I dont know around here (Perú) many that really care about it. DBZ can be their religion, but nothing else really matters to them.
Stairouais
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Db has been huge all over the world since the end of the eighties..North America just got it late.
except basically everyone in Dragonball is now superman, flying around with extreme speed and power
when everyone is super, no one is
Nah, in DBZ, if the protagonist wasn't a Saiyan, they're basically irrelevant. That's another thing I like about DBS, in that it is at least attempting to fix that somewhat.
Yellowflashdude
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Dang, looks like a Marvel Vs Capcom style. Not bad. Sorry, don't know much about fighting games.
It's the best. It had actual good fights instead of the fist and kick clashes ------> energy attack that Z has and the whole cast was relevant. I'm not really trying to change any minds so it's fine if you like Z more but OG Ball can't be topped for me
NoctisVsStar
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Vamos a buscar las esferas del dragón 8 DB and Saint Seiya is like a religion for some.
Western I mean Americans.
I was born in the us but I got to witness a lot of animes growing up since I lived abroad in the Caribbean for some years.
Its pretty popular in México,Colombia, Costa Rica and Panamá at least. (Places I know people from)
Z is king, but everyone remembers the goo ol' days of Goku,Yamcha,Krillin and Bulma's boobs
Hey there fellow Peruvian! People my age (26) and older grew up with OG DB and Z, but if I had to say, I guess most people remember Z very dearly, while having some cloudy memories regarding OG DB. I mean, DB is highly regarded, that much is true, but most people probably like Z a lot more according to my very scientific-100% confidence level-based on own perception statistical study.
This.
You will never ever see a Latin American say that Dragon Ball is unneeded or something best ignored just because Z "is the cool one" like some of you American heathens.
cireza
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That's pretty much the exact same situation in France, where we got Dragon Ball Z anime series when we were kids, thanks to the "Club Dorothée" (which was a french show with animators and lots of different japanese anime series, bought, censured and translated for very cheap by the french production company).
It was introduced in Z. So it's been a thing for a while
Do people only watch Dragon Ball for the fights and never pay attention to the d
dialogue?
Icyflamez96
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oh fuck wrong thread
Professor Beef
Banned
prolly because toonami didn't show it until late in its lifespan
i made sure to catch that shit on time though
Icyflamez96
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ofwt
Could you provide a source for your claim? I'm very sure that in all 43 volumes of DB before Super, there is no mention of God Ki.
A Pretty Panda
fuckin' called it, man
Ok and Goku turning into a Super Saiyan after seeing his friend get killed seems kind of a joke after some shit kid comes out of nowhere and just is a Super Saiyan.
I feel the exact opposite of this lol - I grew up with Dragon Ball via the games and reading the manga at Borders when my mom took me to the mall, haha. I'll never forget the first time I got to watch a full episode of Z on TV, since we didn't have cable for all the time I was into it.
Airing at midnight on Toonami (or Adult Swim I don't remember), I was 10 or 11 so I had to beg my parents to let me stay up that late on a school night. They finally caved, I had the whole living room to myself, made some popcorn and sat back to watch my first episode of this series I LOVED and see whatever manga moment I enjoyed come to life
Literally the entire fucking episode was Trunks going ascended SSJ to fight Cell. 30 minutes of screaming, muscles growing, rocks breaking, waves, "wow he's so strong is that trunks", and commercials. I genuinely don't think I've ever been more crushingly disappointed by anything in my life. Thank God for Kai because Z the anime straight up ruined the source material. 😒
roflwaffles
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People keep saying this, but the vast majority of Super is just Goku and Vegeta shitting on everyone.
They're attempting to rectify this by having a relatively diverse team for the ToP, but I don't really have faith that they'll let the non-Saiyan characters shine.
Dragon ball z is hype as fuck, its I like it better.
To give a more... educated answer. Dragon Ball is, cool. Its a cool thing with fun stories. Dragon Ball Z " I can literally see how this influenced a myriad of mediums" . Dragon ball is great, but its like part 1 and 2 of jojo for me its fine. But then you get to part 3 and 4 and go " oh I see how this influenced all things that came after this, this shit was a forced to be reckoned with "
Fixed. Continental Europe (or at least France, Spain, Italy and another southern Europe countries) and Latin America know DB since late 80s-early 90s.
No lies detected.
DB was actually playing in the US in the mid-90s. If you got up early enough, you'd see the Ocean dub on UPN I believe. It was then canceled. DBZ was shown on Fox very very early on Saturday mornings sometime after DB was canceled. I specifically remember the episode where Goku and Piccolo went to fight Raditz. Mind you, this isn't when DB blew up.
Around 1998-2000 is when DBZ started blowing up in the US on CN. From that point on, it's history.
Around 1998-2000 is when DBZ started blowing up in the US on CN. From that point on, it's history.
I like the explanation for the color behind Blue, and I could live with the aura too as in motion it looks more like blue fire than a typical aura. But the hair color I think is what bugs me. I think I'd have liked it a lot more if their hair had changed shape, but actually stayed black and had dark blue tones where they'd normally use grey or white to shade. Even white hair actually. I just find the color they used a bit too loud, like I wished they used less saturation or something.
SomeRandomWeirdGuy
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Dragon Ball is a lot of fun, but even it begins to succumb to DBZ's failings near the end. I'm probably biased, but I consider the Android/Cell sagas to be the peak of Dragon Ball. Great villains, fun time travel shenanigans, hype moments. Tien, Piccolo, and even Krillin to a lesser extent get some time to shine. Namek has some great stuff, but it really gets to the point of "Are they STILL on Namek?" Whereas every chunk of Androids/Cell is great.
Plus I'm an unashamed Trunks of 17/18 fanboy. Played the shit out of all 3 of them in Budokai 1. I hope DBZ Trunks makes it in and not DBS Trunks. Hes way too skinny
Takeru
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I wouldn't exclude Android 17, especially with the latest arc. Though he was already epic in Z.
But tbf, I hope they don't include movie characters or Super, at least for this entry. (This wouldn't exclude C17 ofc.)
I hope this game only has 20 characters or so. Not anything above that but not anything less. At least 15 for a first entry is also acceptable.
RareFantasy64
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My priority is to rep humans/lesser used Z fighters. But I can't do a team without a clear powerhouse. So right now I'm planning on a team of 17/Yamcha/Tien (assuming they all make it in). I may swap Goku in for 17's place for some variety and just because Goku is really entertaining in Super
Crazy Diamond
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Yeah! I was thinking about it last night after posting, and I know it's not the best barometer for what we'll see in the game, but in the art provided, we're shown Frieza, Cell, and Buu, so I'm kinda starting to think my list would cut off at Kid Buu. ASW loves color palette swaps, so I think 17 will make it in as at least a swap for 18 at some point. Like you said, the roster is probably gonna be tight, and will probably focus on Z. I picked 18 since there aren't a lot of females to choose from and 16 for his more unique skill set, given ASW is probably the best dev when it comes to projectiles and special peripherals, they would probably make good use of those rocket arms... I think you're right and I honestly wouldn't mind if they kept it to Z and added on later be it through DLC or successors.
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