The claymation skits were brilliant, too. Especially the ones with Reggie and the press.
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E3 2014 | Nintendo Digital Event
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The claymation skits were brilliant, too. Especially the ones with Reggie and the press.
Neff
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25 is an age where you're very conscious of -and even insecure about- what society says you should and shouldn't be allowed to enjoy. It's a byproduct of aggressive commercialism where marketing, branding and group association or otherwise are key, and you're the prime target for it. I remember it well.
You're young, and still have a lot of time left to discover that you're simply a target of opportunity for business, and have been conditioned to take pride in the path that you've 'chosen'.
Good luck.
Nintendo knocked it out of the park for day one. I really hope we see E3 in general become more like this though it would require a huge shift on the part of others.
Nintendo is generally in a position where they don't show stuff until its ready to be shown so they can do this much easier as far as spend 8 hours showing stuff on the floor directly to interested fans.
CG trailer route cannot work with this format.
Nintendo is generally in a position where they don't show stuff until its ready to be shown so they can do this much easier as far as spend 8 hours showing stuff on the floor directly to interested fans.
CG trailer route cannot work with this format.
StreetsAhead
Member
Well, they did call out a certain type of journalist in the stream, so maybe some of the jorunos are just bitter.
I thought the event was still a little oddly paced and ordered but the content and ideas were great. The Robot Chicken skits were fun too and I'm not a huge fan. A huge improvement over last year's showing, anyway.
Even though I've seen some give them a bit of flack for showing Project Guard/Giant Robo in such early states, is it really any worse than Mad Max's reveal from last year? Devs/Publishers have been so scared of showing genuine WIP that when one is actually shown, people assume the worst (same with EA and ME2/ME4).
there were parts of the digital event that were slow and that can be seriously improved on next year. however i didn't get the feeling i was being talked down to a couple of times during the show, and i also got a feeling for what was more important than other things.
i compared it to a portfolio review before. i helped conduct some interviews for a new artist a few weeks ago, and really all we need to see are about 12-16 pieces. that's enough to get a feel for the best work, and a general feel of what the artist is capable of from project to project. we saw some good work, but most of these books were 30+ pages long and they would just drag on and on. eventually i was bored and didn't even care that they had made such and such logo or such and such stationery, as impressive as it was they did the work for it. i wasn't dismissive of it- it's just that i understood what they were trying to communicate earlier, and i wished them more confidence in their presentation. the candidate we went with had the smallest book. just about 13 pages. it wasn't perfect, but it was to the point, and memorable.
it's real neat that sony will be making tv shows for ps+ users. we don't need brian michael bendis talking about how great an opportunity it is to be working on it for thirty years. it's cool that the last of us and gta v are being ported over to the ps4. they probably didn't each need a trailer.
in addition, there were no stumbling over words, and no condescending to the audience. beyond the tone some of the execs had at the sony conference, the entire thing being grimdark westerny games (aside from lbp3) really felt like pandering.
I think most people are in agreement that it was a great event.
It's just these reactions are split across a dozen different topics, due to the fragmented coverage.
in the general sense of the treehouse stuff- yeah, this is way more interesting. i actually was always a little disappointed that days 2 and 3 were kind of a wash (although on occasion day 2 would have a neat thing announced). even on the show floor it's cool to see these game creators there and actually discussing what they're doing. i believe sony was doing the same thing at their booth, but i don't know where it was being broadcasted.
Bubububut Smash is DIFFERENT, man!!!
Jokes aside, leave him alone. It's not like we couldn't identify the motivations to his post just by its content alone.
I'll give my late impressions of this event if anyone cares (damn you mods!!!)
I watched day 0 of E3, MS, Sony, Ubi, EA, and I thought it was all pretty 'meh'. Those games are mostly not for me, but I get there is a group that love them. The presentation was all pretty dry and straightforward. I dozed off a few times and sometimes I didn't even know which shooter I was looking at exactly. The CG trailers were misleading and disappointing too :/
So I was going through my usual E3 cycle, being pumped for it and then let down.
Thankfully Nintendo saved E3 and left LA in smoldering ruins of bombs dropped (remote bombs from Iwata I guess)!! I absolutely LOVED their digital event. It was so well put together, mixing funny (what other multi billion dollar company CEO makes a video of himself fighting another excec?!) with intriguing developer interviews. And the games they have shown all look fun, creative and different. For me this was the best E3 Nintendo has done ever and I watched them all. Then the Smash tourney after, just a freaking homerun in every way. Well done Nintendo and you wont see me bash Iwata ever again, because in the end he made this all happen.
Also, that Luigi deathstare cameo.
Another also, after all these years we finally have scientific proof that panic Nintendo is best Nintendo.
I watched day 0 of E3, MS, Sony, Ubi, EA, and I thought it was all pretty 'meh'. Those games are mostly not for me, but I get there is a group that love them. The presentation was all pretty dry and straightforward. I dozed off a few times and sometimes I didn't even know which shooter I was looking at exactly. The CG trailers were misleading and disappointing too :/
So I was going through my usual E3 cycle, being pumped for it and then let down.
Thankfully Nintendo saved E3 and left LA in smoldering ruins of bombs dropped (remote bombs from Iwata I guess)!! I absolutely LOVED their digital event. It was so well put together, mixing funny (what other multi billion dollar company CEO makes a video of himself fighting another excec?!) with intriguing developer interviews. And the games they have shown all look fun, creative and different. For me this was the best E3 Nintendo has done ever and I watched them all. Then the Smash tourney after, just a freaking homerun in every way. Well done Nintendo and you wont see me bash Iwata ever again, because in the end he made this all happen.
Also, that Luigi deathstare cameo.
Another also, after all these years we finally have scientific proof that panic Nintendo is best Nintendo.
dragonfart28
Banned
I really wasn't expecting something this good.
Nintendo could be reclaiming it's title as the premier developer in the industry.
Nintendo could be reclaiming it's title as the premier developer in the industry.
PairOfFilthySocks
Member
Excuse me while I laugh heartily.
Would you consider Uncharted one of these...adult, mature games?
What's this? Was it in the Tree House?
It was also made by two different development teams, EAD Tokyo (3D Mario group)vs. EAD Group 3 (Zelda group).
Once it was confirmed that EAD Tokyo made the tech demo, you could expect EAD Group 3 and Anouma to come up with something different.
Well, in terms of those *specific* shots, I'd agree - much as I like the modern cel-shaded Link (orisit?), the tech demo has an immensely detailed environment which tickles my curiosity. Zelda for me is about the world, and in the case of those two specific shots, the world looks more interesting in the first - because the shot selected for the second shows nothing of the world.
Taking those images purely in isolation, I'd agree (although not for any 'ewww, cel shading' nonsense reasons).
But if we don't cherry-pick images... we've seen the world in Zelda U. And HOLY FUCK IT IS AWESOME.
No in the actual conference I think.
Mysterious
Banned
Haha, how weird would it be when Nintendo runs their conference/whatever next year in a theatre named after one of their direct competitor's subsidiary (that is in the same branch/group as Xbox).
This is the closest thing that we will get to an audience reaction for these digital E3 conferences.
Nintendo World Store reactions:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LCh5dtBcN5k
Nintendo World Store reactions:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LCh5dtBcN5k
they had the invitational in the nokia theater this year anyway, so it probably wouldn't be so strange.
given the success of treehouse live and the general format, i don't see them returning to a press conference. i would be kind of disappointed if they did- this was a good first step, and i would love to see how they would expand on it in future years.
something i noted last year that struck me as odd was that for all of microsoft and sony having better infrastructure with their online, they seem really behind the times when it comes to engaging their fans. nintendo's had a couple of years now to work out what makes a 'nintendo direct' and this year especially it seems that they're making these things more and more interesting. i wonder if they will take a page out of sony's book and show these in select theaters next year.
i was impressed they didn't get stuck revealing the quality of life platform, and surprised they stuck to showing off mostly wii u games from first-party developers (aside from hyrule warriors and bayonetta). they even kept actual game announcements in codename steam, mario party 10, mario vs donkey kong, and star fox for after the show. i think those could have been in there and time could have been cut on the yoshi's woolly world and splatoon segments.
most of all, i like how this makes e3 into an actual three-day event. it was always cool to see the press conferences, and then details about games on day one, but the show kind of lost its appeal by day two, and nobody cared anymore on day three. now it feels like there's an actual convention going on for a couple of days- and gives more of a sense that e3 isn't just a couple hours in a room for a couple of companies.
TDLink
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No date confirmed, but it should be late this month/early next month. Unless they consider this a replacement (which is completely reasonable). In that case we won't get another until August. That said, we have gotten Directs weeks after E3 before.
I wonder if Nintendo will give us some sort of grand finale blowout to end the final day of coverage or if they'll just just keep doing what they have been doing so far until closing time.
I want to believe we'll see and/or hear more about Zelda and Star Fox but I don't want to get my hopes up. Even one final Smash new character would be a fine ending.
I'm going to miss the Treehouse like crazy though. The last two days have genuinely been some of my favourites as a video game fan.
I want to believe we'll see and/or hear more about Zelda and Star Fox but I don't want to get my hopes up. Even one final Smash new character would be a fine ending.
I'm going to miss the Treehouse like crazy though. The last two days have genuinely been some of my favourites as a video game fan.
I think so. They promised a lot of surprises and reveals through the streams, but we haven't really had many.
TDLink
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I don't think it was reasonable to ever expect tons of huge announcements after the Digital Event, outside of them setting up a roundtable where they said they would reveal a new 3DS game.
On the stream they still did announce Mario Party 10, Project Giant Robot, Project Guard, and Star Fox (without showing it). Plus they will have the first showing of Code Name STEAM tomorrow. The stream also included previously unannounced sit downs with Miyamoto (who revealed some of those games), Reggie, and Aonuma. Additionally, they showed certain content on the stream that was not in trailers and/or not available in the show floor demos for some games, such as an extra level in Captain Toad. All of that already satisfies the surprises and reveals statement.
These are my thoughts, #exactly.
Nintendo has made E3 into the event that gamers actually always wanted it to be.
Now if only gamers would get over their insecurities and see it.
SweetDonuts
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I was waiting for this, then forgot, so thanks.
Pokémon getting a bigger reaction than Wii U Zelda. Interesting.
yeah, that stood out to me also. i must be one of the few hardcore Nintendo fans that just isn't very excitable when it comes to Pokemon. I love the series, but it really needs a reinvention.
ActStriker
Member
The part from Wii U Zelda was towards the end and not when he first showed the world tho
thecouncil
Banned
Wait, this is how the Nintendo World Store live viewing went down?
If so, that's an awful way to present the digital conference for the people who went out to the store to watch.
Why would it make me jaded if I didn't see anything I really liked from either E3? This is my honest opinion. I am not very cynical either, as long as there is one or two games I really like in a press conference I will love it.
John Harker
Definitely doesn't make things up as he goes along.
Nice try.
But yea, I meant at the show itself.
But that's probably because most people are simply too busy to have watched it.
I havent even had a chance to walk both halls yet myself. Too many meetings.
Yeah, that was odd. Ruby and Sapphire were kinda meh too.