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EA + Gaikai Demos Launch: Try Demos In Your Browser [Now Live]
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I H8 Memes
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In my ex[erience with the Crysis 2 demo the quality for this was pretty bad. Locked at 800x600 and sluggish as hell. Whats the point of it anyway? Half the reason to try a PC demo is to see how it runs on your machine.
Refreshment.01
Member
What are the requirements of the internet connection?
MasterShotgun
brazen editing lynx
Gaikai already looks appealing due to having games look better than on Onlive. The selection is small for now, but having The Witcher 2 and Crysis 2 and looking pretty nice in the process is a huge plus in my book. Their was still lag, but that's probably due to it being streamed. I can't really tell if it was better or worse than Onlive's lag, which has definitely improved since it launched. I'll keep an eye on them and see how much farther Gaikai goes, but for now, I'll stick to Onlive.
thehillissilent
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I H8 Memes said:
They eventually will be allowing publishers to use Gaikai to create their own storefronts similar to OnLive, but their current ad/demo service is more like a testing ground. There service needs to be more stable. I've had some great and some okay experiences with Gaikai. I get 720p resolution sometimes, but there has been many times in the past where I've only gotten 800x600 which is probably due to peak time usage. The main thing that I was impressed by the service is the lack of lag compared to OnLive. The games almost feel native to me and the picture quality was more crisp than OnLive. I guess this is due to having Verizon FIOS and a Gaikai server is located near me.
Refreshment.01 said:
I would personally recommend 10mbps connection, but it should work over 5mbps. Make sure that your connection doesn't have jitter and wired connections are always better to use.
Lactose_Intolerant
Member
I agree that this is a great idea for demos at the current time. Once the technology and our internet speeds develop in a few years, this will be viable for every game.
Relaxed Muscle
Member
Refreshment.01 said:
I can tell you 1.8MB/s is not enough. lol
Refreshment.01
Member
thehillissilent said:
Hahaha... no chance for me.Relaxed Muscle said:
This would have been really sweet at the time when turn based JRPG's were in vogue.
Kubricks Ghost
Member
Clicked on this thread.
Clicked on dead space 2.
In under a minute i was playing.
Colour me impressed.
Clicked on dead space 2.
In under a minute i was playing.
Colour me impressed.
thehillissilent
Member
crazy monkey
Banned
this is awesome. I did not know about this.
thehillissilent
Member
This service is just like OnLive. It streams the real-time video to you and you upload the controls. There is no local rendering. It's all rendered on remote servers, and the video is encoded and sent to the client on your workstation/laptop to be decoded.Postman said:
Anyway, Dead Rising 2 is now available to play on the www.gaikai.com/games page.
I wasn't able to get the Gaikai software to recognize my 360 controller for this game, but it worked on FIFA 12.
Justin Timberlake
Member
I know they're still in development, but I'd love to meet the programmers behind this.
Because this is not easy. Very difficult code to conceive, let alone optimize. Whoever made this is a verifiable genius.
Because this is not easy. Very difficult code to conceive, let alone optimize. Whoever made this is a verifiable genius.
thehillissilent
Member
The Crimson Blur said:
A lot of it is dependant on your internet connection. Gaikai seems to use more bandwidth than OnLive and it is less stable. However, if you are close to Gaikai servers and have decent internet connection, the experience is really good.
There are other comapnies that are doing cloud gaming as well (OnLive, Playcast, Spawn Labs (Gamestop), G-cluster).
From some of the recent comments, I'm under the impression that people think this is being rendered locally, when it's not. The video is being streamed using flash and java. The are using virtualization technology in a datacenter to run these games. They can run multiple games on a custom server.
Here is more info about how Gaikai works (from July 2009)
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/gaikai-cloud-computing-gameplay-that-works-blog-entry
In my opinion, Gaikai needs to focus on stability and adapting to changing bandwidth. It tends to drop me when my bandwidth drops unlike OnLive. This would not be acceptable if I purchased a game.
thehillissilent
Member
Aru said:
You are right.
Here's a quote from an interview from July 2010 about their custom servers
http://www.develop-online.net/features/900/Gaikais-reality-check
thehillissilent
Member
Gaikai has just added 2 more streaming demos to their www.gaikai.com\games page
Magicka
Farm Simulator 2011 (LOL!)
Magicka
Farm Simulator 2011 (LOL!)
Tried the service today and played Crisis 2. I have to say, I'm BLOWN away by this! My laptop is new, but only has an integrated Intel graphics chip, so this looked really impressive. In full screen, the game played amazingly well, too.
Since I don't have an Xbox 360 or PS3, and I don't plan on spending money on a gaming laptop, Gaikai can take my money.
Now put up the full games so i can play!
Since I don't have an Xbox 360 or PS3, and I don't plan on spending money on a gaming laptop, Gaikai can take my money.
Now put up the full games so i can play!
Was finally able to try this out on a laptop today. I played the Crysis 2 demo and honestly, it was amazing. It looked better than the PS3 version and it played pretty frigging good with minimal input lag. I would honestly consider playing my games this way. Only problem was I couldn't get use to keyboard/mouse combo. I am so used to playing with a pad.
I kind of feel like this is the future of gaming. Playing Crysis 2 in YOUR WEB BROWSER. HOLY FUCK.
I kind of feel like this is the future of gaming. Playing Crysis 2 in YOUR WEB BROWSER. HOLY FUCK.
:lol Nope.avi.dll.exe.zip.rar Never going to be the "future" with massive bandwidth requirements and input lag. Same thing with Onlive: "Future of gaming" but it's a bust, no one cares about streaming games until the tech matches a near 1:1 in-house experience and doesn't require massive bandwidth pipes to use.
Metalmurphy
Member
I actually disagree. It is the future, play on any device, wherever you are. It'll make piracy obsolete too.
Ofcourse we're not there yet but it is the future.
I have a basic comcast cable connection. Nothing massive about my bandwith pipes and I get an experience that is on par with the PS3, basically. The technology will probably only improve. I think it's very promising.
thehillissilent
Member
Gaikai has added Sniper: Ghost Warrior to their www.gaikai.com\games page
Father_Brain
Banned
Trying this on a 12MBps connection on multiple browsers. Every time, the load bar gets to around 80% and halts. 
Mechanized
Member
Do you think the average gamer notices minor input lag? I've played these demos and noticed very slight lag, but I'm an exception, little imperfections usually drive me nuts. But I know my friends wouldn't notice it at all.
thehillissilent
Member
Alice Madness Returns has been added to Gaikai. You can access by going to EA's Origin store and clicking on the banner that says Play Demo
http://store.origin.com/store/ea/en_US/pd/productID.225126100/sac.true#
http://store.origin.com/store/ea/en_US/pd/productID.225126100/sac.true#
thehillissilent
Member
These are the most recent demos that have been added to Gaikai. You can access most of the available demos from www.gaikai.com/games
Latest Demos:
The Darkness 2
Anno 2070
The Adventures of Tin Tin
Orcs Must Die
From Dust
Dead Rising 2 Off The Record
CSI: Crime Scene Investigation: Fatal Conspiracy
Assasins Creed Brotherhood
Might and Magic Heroes VI : http://shop.ubi.com/store/ubina/en_US/html/pbPage.MightandMagicHeroes6_US Click the banner "Play the Demo Stream instanly for free"
Note: I have been having some technical issues with the service recently even though my connection is perfectly fine. You might have to try multiple times before a game starts. However, when I was able to get on, it worked really well for the most part. On the rare occassion, there was a glitch which rendered my controls useless.
EDIT: Gaikai support told me to update my java and flash, which I probably needed to do anyway.
Latest Demos:
The Darkness 2
Anno 2070
The Adventures of Tin Tin
Orcs Must Die
From Dust
Dead Rising 2 Off The Record
CSI: Crime Scene Investigation: Fatal Conspiracy
Assasins Creed Brotherhood
Might and Magic Heroes VI : http://shop.ubi.com/store/ubina/en_US/html/pbPage.MightandMagicHeroes6_US Click the banner "Play the Demo Stream instanly for free"
Note: I have been having some technical issues with the service recently even though my connection is perfectly fine. You might have to try multiple times before a game starts. However, when I was able to get on, it worked really well for the most part. On the rare occassion, there was a glitch which rendered my controls useless.
EDIT: Gaikai support told me to update my java and flash, which I probably needed to do anyway.
It crashed FireFox but worked fine in Chrome.
I tried AC: Brotherhood. There was some minor stuttering but otherwise it was fine, well except the horrible keyboard+mouse controls.
This is a great idea and I hope it takes off. Being able to try a demo in a matter of minute(s) is simply amazing.
EDIT: I hope Ubisoft puts out a Rayman Origins demo.
I tried AC: Brotherhood. There was some minor stuttering but otherwise it was fine, well except the horrible keyboard+mouse controls.
This is a great idea and I hope it takes off. Being able to try a demo in a matter of minute(s) is simply amazing.
EDIT: I hope Ubisoft puts out a Rayman Origins demo.
thehillissilent
Member
Yeah, I wished that they had gamepad support for some of those games. It works really well in Chrome. I need to update my flash and java programs since that seems to be the cause of my issues that I posted earlier.
They will be launching a "full games" cloud gaming service through retailer/publisher sites in about 3 months after thier upcoming Facebook launch
http://www.joystiq.com/2012/01/24/gaikai-full-game-streaming-to-start-3-months-after-launching-on
The already have a deal with LG to included and LG branded cloud gaming service using Gaikai tech inside their Smart TVs. That should be here in the fall:
http://www.engadget.com/2012/01/11/lgs-gaikai-powered-cloud-gaming-service-hands-on/
http://www.gamasutra.com/view/news/...aikai_strikes_major_Smart_TV_integration_deal
ZombieSupaStar
Member
wow, just tried this out on a pc that is POS and was playing a youtube quality video of Dead Space 2, but in terms of playing it, it worked, felt pretty responsive, and was just amazing to see this POS pc actually running it.
Ill always want the local rendering of a powerful rig, (unless of course they let you rent some sorta dropbox esque modding server space where u can modded games) but this could seriously explode the potential userbase for pc gaming to just about anyone with a computer from the last 7 years.
Ill always want the local rendering of a powerful rig, (unless of course they let you rent some sorta dropbox esque modding server space where u can modded games) but this could seriously explode the potential userbase for pc gaming to just about anyone with a computer from the last 7 years.
thehillissilent
Member
I was getting the following errors accessing Gaikai demos under Windows Vista using Chrome:
"We experienced an unexpected technical problem and were unable to start the GAIKAI game service. Please try again.' Event Code 004.2008"
EDIT: The cause of that specific error was my security/firewall programs blocking UDP connections from Gaikai. That was resolved when I used another install of Windows without that software.
However, I did get Gaikai to work 100% of the time in Google Chromium on Ubuntu 11.10 on the same hardware as before.
I fully installed Ubuntu on an external 2.5in usb hard drive. You have to install Sun Java and remove Open Java SDK in order for it to work. You find more about that here: http://softwareinabottle.wordpress.com/2011/11/17/install-sun-jdk-6-on-ubuntu-11-10/ .
Make sure you set up symoblic links and enable plugins on Chromium. Chromium will warn you about the running the Java plugin a couple of times (3 times). Just keep selecting "Run this plugin". I just need to install a joystiq and see if Gaikai will work with it in Ubuntu.
"We experienced an unexpected technical problem and were unable to start the GAIKAI game service. Please try again.' Event Code 004.2008"
EDIT: The cause of that specific error was my security/firewall programs blocking UDP connections from Gaikai. That was resolved when I used another install of Windows without that software.
However, I did get Gaikai to work 100% of the time in Google Chromium on Ubuntu 11.10 on the same hardware as before.
I fully installed Ubuntu on an external 2.5in usb hard drive. You have to install Sun Java and remove Open Java SDK in order for it to work. You find more about that here: http://softwareinabottle.wordpress.com/2011/11/17/install-sun-jdk-6-on-ubuntu-11-10/ .
Make sure you set up symoblic links and enable plugins on Chromium. Chromium will warn you about the running the Java plugin a couple of times (3 times). Just keep selecting "Run this plugin". I just need to install a joystiq and see if Gaikai will work with it in Ubuntu.
Tarin02543
Member
It works really well (Chrome, 100mbit connection in Belgium). I've played some Darkness II, shitty game but they have proved themselves.
Metalmurphy
Member
This actually works for me now. The input lag, or lack of it, is actually pretty impressive, but most games seem to render at a pretty low resolution, and there's always compression artifacts.
But still:
Madness!
But still:
Madness!
thehillissilent
Member
This actually works for me now. The input lag, or lack of it, is actually pretty impressive, but most games seem to render at a pretty low resolution, and there's always compression artifacts.
But still:
Madness!
I did one of Gaikai's diagnostic test and I get 16ms of lag added to the game with my Verizon FIOS connection, which is about 1 frame. That is really good compared to OnLive which can average 5 frames of lag (83ms) of more. I don't feel that lag with Gaikai at all.
coldflame23
Member
Tested(Portugal) and it works surprisingly well .