I got the top two right here, as voted on by da readers.
#2 Persona 4
#1 The Last of Us
#1 The Last of Us
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Empire Magazine's Greatest 100 games of all time [Reader Voted]
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I got the top two right here, as voted on by da readers.
Punished_Snake
Member
Bayonetta is one of the best action games ever made if not the best. It's a lot better than many games in the list.
Tomb Raider was released same year as Mario 64 but never seems to get the same credit for its historical significance
I'm afraid the game where the little kid is invisible to enemies because reasons is the better game. In fact it's the best game of all time. The readers said so. Bayonetta isn't even on the list so it has to sit at the nerd table with the kid who eats his boogers.
ViewtifulJC
Banned
you're trying too hard, Marcel
GalacticAE
Member
No Castlevania SoTN. ok this list is pretty bad.
ovechkin10887
Neo Member
we need to make a serious GAF top 100 games of all time
Why does it have to push gaming or innovate to be a fun game? What bearing does innovation on how fun a game is?
The AI wasn't perfect, sure, but really, what games have AI that are good and don't have weird quirks? I know people love to cite Halo and Half-life for their AI, but I've beaten both, and don't feel that their AI is any better (or worse) than the AI in The Last of Us. I think the only game where I've actually been impressed with the AI is the original FEAR.
The story is filled with cliches, but what story doesn't have it's fair share? The ending was still superb, and the story was well told and well acted.
The stealth was the best part of the game. I loved that I could engage, and disengage at will. There was no fail state for being noticed. You always had options to get out of a jam if you were spotted.
As for what I loved about the game? I loved the gunplay. Every gun felt unique and powerful. The hit response was great. And weapon handling was excellent, as were the controls. The game had great atmosphere, and the game could be incredibly intense (particularly areas with a lot of clickers/stalkers). I loved that there were upgrade elements (both for Joel and his weapons). I loved the wide linear level design. A lot of fun playgrounds to sneak around and fight in. I loved the seamless mix of melee and gun-based combat. And the mix of stealth gameplay and direct combat.
Was the game perfect? No, obviously not, I think the game has it's share of imperfections. But I also loved Resident Evil 4, and I have a ton of issues with that game as well. Unlike seemingly most people, I can find flaws in things that I love, and still enjoy them regardless.
EDIT: It honestly seems like most people just turn a blind eye to flaws in the games they love while nitpicking games they don't enjoy. People are so convinced that the game they didn't enjoy must have been flawed, and so they look for reasons why. But the games they loved? Just so good, there could be nothing wrong with it.
Riposte
Member
No we don't
I hate to burst your bubble but The Last of Us will win that too. Popularity contests means you get IMDB-like voting.
Can't say I agree, the genre switch-ups made sense for me and never took me out of the game. Especially robo Punch-Out was brilliant.
Sure, but I'd put Devil may Cry over it when it comes to influence on the genre.
All three would make my list in seconds though.
It would be fun.
They used to do it iirc. Ocarina always came top I think.
ViewtifulJC
Banned
Markitron
Is currently staging a hunger strike outside Gearbox HQ while trying to hate them to death
I don't man I don't think Nier or The New Order are cracking that list.
Goddamn, you are truly shaken by this.
Have you ever played The Last of Us, out of interest?
I rented it on Redbox and finished the campaign over a weekend. Why do you ask? Am I to receive the generic "You must have not played The Last Of Us!" chestnut?
And I'd appreciate you not assuming my feelings, thanks. It makes you look foolish and reaching for things to say.
Markitron
Is currently staging a hunger strike outside Gearbox HQ while trying to hate them to death
I get the impression that many of the more extreme TLOU haters have never played it
Wow, GAF sure has grown a lot since 2011. That was only 7 pages and barely anyone even voted.
Would be worth doing again.
Lion Heart
Banned
Lol at the negativity. Its like you guys are saying there is no place on the internet to have a poll about what your favourite game is. Only critics are allowed to compose a list!
I get the impression that you're full of shit and are only assuming what people have and haven't played based on nothing.
Uno Venova
Banned
What does IMBD-like rating mean.
Shpeshal Nick
aka Collingwood
Pretty sure The Last of Us would go number 1 there too so no point.
Or you just have the opinion that it's not one of those one games.
It's okay to like different games.
I asked because the game has clearly affected you quite deeply.
It's cool though, a brief scan of your post history told me everything I needed to know. You really do have quite the issue with this game.
Oof. That's the kinda KO that sends the poster flying backwards into some breakable barrels.
And watch everyone be disappointed with the outcome of that after Last of Us wins again lol. For me the #1 spot in my heart will always belong to the Original Deus Ex or Chrono Trigger/FF5.
And you have a hard-on for all things Sony so it's all relative. The name SmokyDave told me everything I needed to know.
That The Dark Knight is a better movie than Schindler's List.
Punished_Snake
Member
Look , I love Shenmue and it's one of my favorites but the game has flaws especially if you play the game now, so why it was rated so high in this list? The game was innovative and brought something new to gaming. according to this list The Last of Us is the best game ever made, how so? The game didn't innovate, didn't bring anything new so what are the qualities of the game? You talk about stealth being good in TLOU, stealth games with bad A.I are considered bad games. Gunplay? Resident Evil 4 maybe not the first games to implement behind the shoulder camera and good gunplay, but it's the game that made that popular and it has better level design than TLOU. You said the story is filled with cliches and we should accept that because all games share this, but I'm again asking what are the qualities of TLOU? Also I don't understand the criteria they followed to make the list, it's inconsistent.
Honey Bunny
Member
That Inception is the 13th greatest movie ever made. And Cosmos is the 4th greatest tv show.
Shpeshal Nick
aka Collingwood
It's a fantastic game. A truly fantastic one. I'm on my 2nd (or third) playthrough now because trophies are a weakness of mine. Although those multiplayer trophies are a bit of a turn off. The game has horrible mulitplayer.
But still, the best game of ALL time? Come on. As good as TLoU is now, I personally don't see it being a game that ages gracefully and I don't mean visually either. Not many 3D last gen games will age well visually, that's just a pitfall of 3D.
Well, I mean, I am kind of interested in what would occupy the other 99 spots...
No, everybody is allowed to make a list.
We're also allowed to make fun of shitty lists.
Decent list all things considered but seeing OOT once again in the top five makes me wonder if I still made a mistake by selling my 3DS copy of Ocarina of Time a bit too early, or if it just isn't a game for me. I put some solid 5 hours into that game but it was pretty damn dull experience up to that point. I don't even consider myself a dudebro that needs explosions, but for some reason that game just lacked anything interesting to keep me hooked. And on that note, quite interested to see how A Link Between Worlds compares. I've had that in my shelf for few months but haven't had the time to play it yet.
Markitron
Is currently staging a hunger strike outside Gearbox HQ while trying to hate them to death
Why?
Punished_Snake
Member
Bayonetta was an evolution of the genre, but I agree with you. Devil may Cry started the genre, but sadly it didn't make the list which is a joke. I don't understand the criteria they followed to make the list, because it's inconsistent.
Devil May Cry 1 is such a great game, I think it deserves a spot on a top 100. I think it has the best atmosphere of the series, as well. Really pulled off the "spooky demonic castle" thing perfectly.
Those underwater first-person shooting sequences, though... KAMIIIIIIIIYYYYYYYYAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
I've never bothered with the multiplayer personally. For me this game is about Joel and Ellie getting their bond on whilst we traverse a familiar and yet corrupted land.
For me it's the best game of all time, yeah. I think Streets of Rage 2 might be my favourite, but TLoU is a better game. I think it'll age fine. Ocarina of Time is still up there and that looks and runs like arse. It's still a phenomenal game though, so you let that slide.
Because the "you didn't actually play the game you dislike" is weak-ass reasoning. I ultimately disliked Watch Dogs too but people don't do the "you didn't actually play it" garbage when I bring that up.
It's a waste of everyone's time and only makes you look like a fanboy. You like thing, OK. I dislike thing. OK.
The criterion was "random Empire.com user" so I'm not surprised at the lack of japanese games outside of FF.
Combichristoffersen
Combovers don't work when there is no hair
Super Mario Bros, SMW and Mario 64 over SMB 3? List is made of shit, fail and WRONG.