done.
I didn't know people who attack you on Twitter are classified as fans. I have many fans, in that case.
done.
Here's how I see it:
- Phil has yet to release a game and his game has been under development/fishing for the past 5 years;
- After getting featured in the movie and getting more publicity, he said shit about Japanese game developers without any basis to clarify his statement.
- People are picturing him as arrogant douche who is capitalizing on the new found publicity i.e. once he's back on the map after being ignored for the past couple of years;
- Instead of clarifying his statement, he goes on a pissing parade on how he is the only one to have won IGF twice and how others can suck his dick and choke on it.
Whenever you are in the spotlight, people who criticize anything you say. The last thing you want to do is present yourself as an asshole. It's best to ignore the outcry (if any) and let your product do the talking.
I'm not sure. I would hope so. I'd also be interested in what Microsoft has to say about this. He's representing them in a way, he's working with them and all the attention he gets is because he's making a video game that they'll sell exclusively (for a time).
His name, his game, and what he does... it's all representing Microsoft in a way.
Sure. The guy seems like a huge, insufferable douchebag. And, it's probably not like we're taking him out of context, he's made it clear a bunch of times. I would probably avoid him if I knew him in real life. But why are we not buying his game again?
Crazy.
Two wrongs don't make a right.
Mister Saturn said:I feel I'm justified in my response. Again for comparison:
Why would they care?Wondering if any japanese sites/developers have responded about his statement yet
I remember trolling DICE's Demize for saying "Killzone 2 is shit" by telling him how I'm trading in Bad Company 2 to buy Call of Duty and that his game is shit.
His response: "Looks like I pissed off a few people" and he/others clarified/apologized by stating that they like what Guerrilla Games are doing (paraphrasing of course).
That right there is how you handle an argument, not by saying "Suck my dick". That right there earned is how he earned my respect.
Oh well. I'm done here.
I was about to reply something similar but was too late in refreshing the page and you did it first.Because it's my money and I choose not to support him? Whether the game is fun or not is beside the point.
Because it's my money and I choose not to support him? Whether the game is fun or not is beside the point.
Why would they care?
Schrödinger's cat;35848589 said:This guy appears to be to the Charlie Sheen of the Indie Dev scene.
Minus any body of work
Because it's GAF.Then why is this thread 30+ pages :\
How about you actually say what you have a problem with instead of just posting that you have a problem with something?Oh GAF, you do make me laugh sometimes!
This is quickly approaching Uncharted 3 review levels of stupidity.
His name, his game, and what he does... it's all representing Microsoft in a way.
One guy works for EA and the other example doesnt work for EA. That is why you got an apology out of one guy and not another. HE STILL THOUGHT KZ2 WAS SHIT.
you just made an arguement for being a little pansy apologist. not that Fish is doing it right, but fuck that.
How much blow does a 30k Indie award get you these days?Minus any cocaine.
Twice.
At least he sarcastically admits later that he is an egotistical asshole.
Why would they care?
Phil just comes across as someone who thinks he's a lot funnier than he is.
So I just heard of this guy and his game yesterday. It's probably pretty telling that you can win two IGF awards and still be a nobody until you say something controversial at GDC. I dunno why Microsoft would view him as a significant threat to anything they do, or significant at all for that matter.
I thought that nintendo was a japanese developer.
As a woman, your comment strikes me as infinitely more vile than anything Phil Fish has said.
I wish Shawn Elliott still had a platform for "Heroes of the Web." He would have a field day with this thread.
I think you actually need to research what you are talking about. So much of that is just plain untrue.And Duke Nukem Forever is the best game in the world...
Oh wait.
That said, Japanese games do not suck. It's the ideology that is closed-minded is what sucks. They tend to suffer from understanding what the western market wants and vice versa. The only thing is that Western devs don't need Japan's support to survive in the market whereas Japanese devs require western support. Japanese games have this amazing esthetic to it which immediately tells you where the game is made. If anything, it's the mainstream western market that is so oversaturated to the point that indie games are overall more profitable compared to mediocre AAA titles when you look at the big picture. This is something that Japanese devs don't have in their architecture i.e. going "indie".
All in all, Japanese gaming structure needs a change. They tend to overproduce a game and they need better localization. They need an outsourced that is willing to help them make their game more appealing without the cultural boundaries on how a workplace should be. There are a lot of things different in the structure, and all I will say in the end is that Western market adapted Japan's best management traits and made it their own; Japanese devs need to be willing to change their structure as well.
As a woman, your comment strikes me as infinitely more vile than anything Phil Fish has said.
I wish Shawn Elliott still had a platform for "Heroes of the Web." He would have a field day with this thread.
Except he did.If he actually gave examples of why I could maybe understand where he is coming from but generalizing like that just makes me think he's just looking to stir up some trouble.
Sure. The guy seems like a huge, insufferable douchebag. And, it's probably not like we're taking him out of context, he's made it clear a bunch of times. I would probably avoid him if I knew him in real life. But why are we not buying his game again?
Tell me guys, what did Fez Guy do wrong?
People scream "OOOOH YOU BAKKA GAIJIN HAVE BROUGHT SHAME UPON MY GLORIOUS JAPANESE GAMES FROM JAPANESE JAPAN WHICH ARE JAPANESE! KUZOOO! YOU HAVE TO DIE DESU KA!"
I'm not saying Phil beats women, I'm just saying he's got the hubris of a piece of shit who does.
Twice.
At least he sarcastically admits later that he is an egotistical asshole.
People scream "OOOOH YOU BAKKA GAIJIN HAVE BROUGHT SHAME UPON MY GLORIOUS JAPANESE GAMES FROM JAPANESE JAPAN WHICH ARE JAPANESE! KUZOOO! YOU HAVE TO DIE DESU KA!"
Some of you guys are making me seriously questioning my faith in humanity and common sense.
Let's recap what happened:
Fez Guy says "I think modern Japanese games from Japan suck, because I think so. Old games are cool though".
[MISSING REEL SORRY FOR THE INCONVENIENCE]
People scream "OOOOH YOU BAKKA GAIJIN HAVE BROUGHT SHAME UPON MY GLORIOUS JAPANESE GAMES FROM JAPANESE JAPAN WHICH ARE JAPANESE! KUZOOO! YOU HAVE TO DIE DESU KA!"
Tell me guys, what did Fez Guy do wrong?
Also a friend told me to quote this:
"If he actually gave examples of why I could maybe understand where he is coming from but generalizing like that just makes me think he's just looking to stir up some trouble." and respond with "Except he did".
'So here goes:
Except he did.
EDIT: Also he's not generalizing anything. He gave his opinion. You don't have to share his opninion. Yet you feel attacked. Like someone stabbed your puppy and pissed on him. Except nobody did. YOU are the puppy. And then you was puppy.
Some of you guys are making me seriously questioning my faith in humanity and common sense.
Let's recap what happened:
Fez Guy says "I think modern Japanese games from Japan suck, because I think so. Old games are cool though".
[MISSING REEL SORRY FOR THE INCONVENIENCE]
People scream "OOOOH YOU BAKKA GAIJIN HAVE BROUGHT SHAME UPON MY GLORIOUS JAPANESE GAMES FROM JAPANESE JAPAN WHICH ARE JAPANESE! KUZOOO! YOU HAVE TO DIE DESU KA!"
Tell me guys, what did Fez Guy do wrong?
Also a friend told me to quote this:
"If he actually gave examples of why I could maybe understand where he is coming from but generalizing like that just makes me think he's just looking to stir up some trouble." and respond with "Except he did".
'So here goes:
Except he did.
EDIT: Also he's not generalizing anything. He gave his opinion. You don't have to share his opninion. Yet you feel attacked. Like someone stabbed your puppy and pissed on him. Except nobody did. YOU are the puppy. And then you was puppy.
I'm going to be curt here, there is no place for you on NeoGAF. There are other places out there that will accept you and your immature, inaccurate over-generalizing, but GAF is not one of them.
People scream "OOOOH YOU BAKKA GAIJIN HAVE BROUGHT SHAME UPON MY GLORIOUS JAPANESE GAMES FROM JAPANESE JAPAN WHICH ARE JAPANESE! KUZOOO! YOU HAVE TO DIE DESU KA!"
This is the last tweet I make to him but I just posted the following reply (at work on IPhone so no idea how/if to make screen shot):
His peeps are about as mature as he is.