Square, please stop talking until you figure out what the hell you are making. "Full-sized game" means absolutely nothing, especially when you're referring to a remake we knows the ins and outs of. It really does come across as they decided to cash in the FFVII remake for money before realising what they were undertaking.
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Final Fantasy 7 Remake: all parts will have the size of a full game
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SunBroDave
Member
$60 per episode confirmed.
We do. The parts are not disc changes per say, but I'd fully expect a 3-part franchise with the released comments. Part one ideally the whole Midgar sequence.
GodlyTwins
Member
I'm in!
Though, I'm really tired of people shitting on the game this early..
Though, I'm really tired of people shitting on the game this early..
entremet
Member
Of course!
They're drip feeding the PR so we're ready for the price tag.
Full game is just code for full price.
giancarlo123x
Banned
A lot of us know, I'm just pretty positive the parts will be split completely differently than in the original games with the disc. I can see part one being mostly Midgar especially if they expand the hell out of it like the nice ps4 theme shows it.
Perfect Cha0s
Member
How so? I think this approach says the opposite, really.
TheJollyCorner
Member
I love VIII. It's my favorite. I know a ton of people around here love IX.
I'm realistic enough to know that both of these games are divisive enough that I can't see S-E spending the same money and resources on remakes of VII's scale.
VII remake became one of the most demanded projects in the industry for over a decade. VIII and IX, sadly, not so much.
If we are lucky we will get some kind of remaster if/when it's feasible to re-do the prerendered backgrounds, up the character models, and maybe add VA.
What I really want is a fully realized Amano-designed remake of FFVI.
That is a dream I've had for a long damn time.
gundamkyoukai
Member
Yep which why doing them in HD going to takes a lot of work to bring the up to dat e.
I don't mind this news.
shinobi602
Member
So are we talkin 5-10 hour "full size" games or legit 40 hour "full size" games? Caution continues.
jshackles
Gentlemen, we can rebuild it. We have the capability to make the world's first enhanced store. Steam will be that store. Better than it was before.
I'm cautiously optimistic about this, but this comparison makes the most sense to me. Everyone lost their shit when they announced that Starcraft II's campaign would be split into 3 games. But in the end, we got three games each with a campaign as long or longer than the original game.
Hopefully SquareEnix delivers here and offers up a "full game" (aka - a game the size of Final Fantasy 7) in each episode.
hosannainexcelsis
Member
I bought Trails in the Sky FC and Trails in the Sky SC, which is one original game which was split into two when Falcom felt it was getting too large, and both games had more than enough content to satisfy me. So yes, I have no intrinsic problems with this model.
shadow2810
Member
They didn't say full-sized RPG game, did they?
That was my first impression as well.
giancarlo123x
Banned
No, it's 60 for a full content worth of game. With this strategy it gives them more time to concentrate on specific parts and expand greatly on the original material.
Love how everyone keeps calling it "episodes" even though it was never mentioned like that.
What's so hard to understand, especially with this statement it's easy to see that this is gonna be a series of full size releases like XIII, XIII-2 and Lightning Returns.
People keep thinking they won't expand the game even though we already have confirmation that they'll add more content.
But yeah, let's get upset! This damn outrage culture on here, lately.
What's so hard to understand, especially with this statement it's easy to see that this is gonna be a series of full size releases like XIII, XIII-2 and Lightning Returns.
People keep thinking they won't expand the game even though we already have confirmation that they'll add more content.
But yeah, let's get upset! This damn outrage culture on here, lately.
TheJollyCorner
Member
Better get comfortable.
This will be happening for the duration of production and well after.
entremet
Member
I'm guessing the latter. There would be a shitstorm if its the former.
hosannainexcelsis
Member
There are people in this very thread who are still expecting exactly that.
chozen
Member
They can do it. This is FFXVs map. Midgar alone should be slightly bigger than Fallout 4.
FF 7 has as much content as a single game, because IT WAS A SINGLE GAME. Stop with this BS "disc 1 is like 3-4 games already". It isn't.
I swear, the industry's marketing is so effective when people are willingly agree with shady corporate tactics. Why do people settle for less for no reason?
This is what "cinematic single player" has brought us. Sub 10 hour full priced games people are willing to defend.
I swear, the industry's marketing is so effective when people are willingly agree with shady corporate tactics. Why do people settle for less for no reason?
This is what "cinematic single player" has brought us. Sub 10 hour full priced games people are willing to defend.
AgentLampshade
Member
Haha, I can just imagine grinding all the way to level 99 (assuming they keep the level system) only for your progress to be completely gone in the next "game" and you start from a recommended level or something.
Screaming Meat
Unconfirmed Member
CAN'T YOU SEE THE SKY IS FALLING IN?!
mocolostrocolos
Member
Gameplay-wise? Not even closer.
Screaming Meat
Unconfirmed Member
What happened to "giving benefit of the doubt"...?
entremet
Member
lol. you must be new here.
Assuming it's not PR and they truly want to capture the vision of FF7 then I understand, and most of us probably jumped to a judgement far too quickly. Luckily, SE has responded swiftly this time instead of staying silent.
FF7 has a lot of areas that are small in size, and that simply wouldn't work in today's market. Imagine walking into a city for the equivalent of 1 or 2 screens. People would flip a lid that the area is too small so they will have to expand the scope of certain areas. Sucks we'll likely have to pay for 3 discs, but I mean if they want to be faithful, I don't see the problem. I could imagine a LOT of content being cut if it was one disc. This isn't going to be a shit ton of asset reuse like Witcher 3 or Fallout.
FF7 has a lot of areas that are small in size, and that simply wouldn't work in today's market. Imagine walking into a city for the equivalent of 1 or 2 screens. People would flip a lid that the area is too small so they will have to expand the scope of certain areas. Sucks we'll likely have to pay for 3 discs, but I mean if they want to be faithful, I don't see the problem. I could imagine a LOT of content being cut if it was one disc. This isn't going to be a shit ton of asset reuse like Witcher 3 or Fallout.
Same here but we will see.
Wonder how much Midgar will be changed, maybe fully explorable Shinra tower.
Screaming Meat
Unconfirmed Member
hosannainexcelsis
Member
Even Final Fantasy XIII, which is as much of a linear cinematic corridor game as any Final Fantasy has been, is a lot longer.
Not what I wrote, but according to some people, that would be totally swell, since disc 1 is already "3 games".
I think Square lost that luxury almost 7 years ago.
I can see them doing that for the ultimate collector's edition lol
Perfect Cha0s
Member
To bring FFVII's content into this era at a level that is as impressive now as it was back then is massive, yes.
Revven said:
What makes you think they'll manage to get all the episodes out during this generation? Even if they had completely separate teams building at once and sharing assets, I have a hard time imagining what is essentially multiple brand new titles being created in anything less than a two year development cycle. And that's if everything goes well. We're in this for a long while guys.
ArkhamFantasy
Member
They arent calling these "games" they are calling them "parts" (of the same game).
I believe this is going to be treated like expansions onto an MMO, same game.
Sadly I am too. They know this and so they will get away with it. Hopefully there is enough content to justify the price and the wait between episodes isn't crazy long. The problem with episodic content is that it needs to be somewhat regular or the momentum is lost.
That's why I always wait for telltale games to completely finish before I get them. I won't be able to wait for ffvii.
That would be my ideal situation... just lock off unfinished areas like an MMO please 🙏