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[Makoto Yuki]

it would be nice if they tackled those moments they had in CC, except the ending, him fighting grunts in the ending of CC isnt the problem, its that its this ridiculous armythrowing everything at him, its ridiculous, i hope that when they do decide to tackle that they change it to at least a platoon of grunts that he has to deal with, show that hes visually tired going from nibelheim, all the way to midgar, show that the trip carrying a guy thats pratically a vegetable while fighting shinra along the way took its toll on him, and i hope his actual death is handled more similarly to the one in FF7, with him going up to cloud to see if hes alright, getting shot, preferably by a sniper for example, and then a couple grunts coming out of hiding and one of them filling him with bullets, then turning to cloud and deeming him a non issue, no last speech to cloud, no inheriting dreams bull, just a guy in the last seconds of his life, seeing his friend reaching up to him and then die, have then cloud pick up the buster sword, give a final look to zack, and then scream

While this has been discussed to death earlier, I enjoyed the ridiculousness of Zack's Last Stand in CC. I prefer it too the original. That being said, and I'll say it again, I'm sure they will yet again find a different way to portray Zack's final moments in the remake.

 

[anaron]

Yes, I know. I'm saying it makes no sense she doesn't know Zack died. Given her powers.

well the game illustrates that she heard voices growing up but that it fluctuated based on where she was and if she actively embraced communicating with them.

I imagine her direct link to Elymra is what enabled her to learn that someone "close to you has passed away"

Shinra soldiers were so memorable..

ugh why did change it? I hate their new look across the compilation.

 

[Meccanical]

So have you guys talked about how they might tackle the whole Mr. Dolphin thing?

I imagine there might be a dolphin,but you won't use it to infiltrate Shinra.

If you do I will be HIGHLY impressed.

Shinra soldiers were so memorable..

To be honest we aren't sure if those soldiers in the trailer were Shinra grunts or one of their specialized units.

 

[DiipuSurotu]

how can you say this when the entire compilation failed to capture anything about 7 and was generally an enormous disservice to virtually everything about the original?

The Compilation was an attempt at trying different stuff with different genres on different platforms (you can thank Yoichi Wada who invented the whole 'polymorphic content' philosophy). This is a remake of the original FFVII with 3 out of 4 of the original creative minds.

Shinra soldiers not looking like shinra soldiers is what is wrong.

Except you don't know if they are Shinra soldiers.

 

[Relaxed Muscle]

So have you guys talked about how they might tackle the whole Mr. Dolphin thing?

They'll destroy it, like most memorable scenes.

The Compilation was an attempt at trying different stuff with different genres on different platforms (you can thank Yoichi Wada who invented the whole 'polymorphic content' philosophy). This is a remake of the original FFVII with 3 out of 4 of the original creative minds.



Except you don't know if they are Shinra soldiers.

What other soldiers exist in the VII universe that could be in Midgar?

 

[Makoto Yuki]

So have you guys talked about how they might tackle the whole Mr. Dolphin thing?

Like this, but with less smiling, more spiky hair, and one dolphin.

 

[antitrop]

Except you don't know if they are Shinra soldiers.

The red-tinted goggles are the dead giveaway, unless they're only trying to make you think that they're Shinra soldiers. But why would they do that?

 

[Skilletor]

well the game illustrates that she heard voices growing up but that it fluctuated based on where she was and if she actively embraced communicating them.

I imagine her direct link to Elymra is what enabled her to link to her husband.

Sure. But she was much older when Zack died, and had a direct link to him, and I can't see her denying that communication.

Seems a silly plot contrivance to me. Doesn't seem outside of the realm of possibility that she would know Zack died.

 

[anaron]

The Compilation was an attempt at trying different stuff with different genres on different platforms (you can thank Yoichi Wada who invented the whole 'polymorphic content' philosophy). This is a remake of the original FFVII with 3 out of 4 of the original creative minds.



Except you don't know if they are Shinra soldiers.

those are absolutely Shinra soldiers

 

[Meccanical]

those are absolutely Shinra soldiers

We really don't have enough information to make that call.

 

[Turin]

I'm not worried in the slightest they know how important this is and love the game as much as we do. I know they plan to stay as faithful as they can all the while adding a new experience for newcomers.

Yeah. I mean, purists are going to have an aneurysm no matter what happens.

But I think Nomura and co. know what they're dealing with here. I also think Nomura in particular isn't one to pander to anybody.

 

[DiipuSurotu]

What other soldiers exist in the VII universe that could be in Midgar?

This article explores the different possibilities: (skip to "Right, now we get to the really...")

http://thelifestream.net/news/final.../visual-breakdown-of-ffvii-remake-e3-trailer/

tl;dr:

Spoiler

They might be Biggs and Jessie.

 

[Meccanical]

tl;dr:

Spoiler

They might be Biggs and Jessie.

I highly doubt that.

Then again they could be AVALANCHE related, they could decide to make AVALANCHE bigger than six people.

 

[Godcannon]

We really don't have enough information to make that call.

It's gotta be Shinra Soldiers or at the very least Biggs and Wedge( edit:it would be Jessie not wedge, and I do think that's them.) in Shinra uniforms for the beginning mission.

Upon second watching, right after the soldiers it showed a helicopter that reminded me of the one Reno and Rufus get away on.

 

[-Ryn]

It always sound like Zack decides they are friends after what they went through, not that they were friends previously.They certainly don't act like friends in the real flashback.

It's an interesting interpretation, but I think the original implication was always pointing more towards them being friends. When examining the original itself, Zack interacted with Cloud more than anyone else. Cloud was previously established to be more reserved as well as very nervous about returning to his hometown so it makes sense that he was a bit tight lipped. If I recall correctly Cloud says something along the lines of "I created it based on stories I heard from my friend Zack and my own memories" during his explanation to everyone on the Highwind as well.

Spoiler

The Angeal part happens after Cloud has left. So I always thought the game left it ambiguous as to whether it was literal or a metaphor or a final hallucination.

This is true.

I never questioned it since in Advent Children Kadaj dies in a similar way. However that could've totally been the case.

I enjoyed Cloud's portrayal in CC, their friendship seemed really natural. One of the lightest portrayals of Cloud. Love the scene where Zack put his hand on Cloud's shoulder and tells him if he wants to become a SOLDIER, he has to "hang in there."

Cloud idolized Sephiroth as a child, as most kids did, and dreamed of becoming a SOLDIER. Instead he befriends a different SOLDIER who was a more positive role model.

Cloud and Zack's friendship was probably the best part of Crisis Core imo. Wish it had gotten more focus.

Crisis Core for all its flaws, had some genuinely good writing in some areas.

 

[anaron]

Shinra soldiers in VII

Shinra Soldiers in CC

 

[Via Purifico]

Yeah. I mean, purists are going to have an aneurysm no matter what happens.

But I think Nomura and co. know what they're dealing with hear. I also think Nomura in particular isn't one to pander to anybody.

Exactly, I think they know what they're doing and will try their best.

This article explores the different possibilities: (skip to "Right, now we get to the really...")

http://thelifestream.net/news/final.../visual-breakdown-of-ffvii-remake-e3-trailer/

tl;dr:

Spoiler

They might be Biggs and Jessie.

It's a possibility as they are wearing red bandannas on their arms.

 

[Fdkn]

ugh why did change it? I hate their new look across the compilation.

To be honest we aren't sure if those soldiers in the trailer were Shinra grunts or one of their specialized units.

lol guys I was being sarcastic, that design is trash

 

[Meccanical]

Sarcasm is hard to detect on the internet,especially on NeoGAF.

:V

 

[ctothej]

Holy shit, just found out Jesse was a girl.

 

[-Ryn]

I do hope they make the colors a bit more vivid for the Shinra troops than in Crisis Core. Other than that I'm not sure what people exoected them to look like.

lol guys I was being sarcastic, that design is trash

lol

Holy shit, just found out Jesse was a girl.

 

[Meccanical]

Holy shit, just found out Jesse was a girl.

Wow bro.

Just wow.

 

[Via Purifico]

lol

 

[wmlk]

The Dolphin on the girls shirt and the fact that 7th Heaven is still a Texas style bar has fully convinced me that they might have an idea of what they are doing.

That dolphin thing especially is reaching deep.

I wanna know who directed the trailer.

It's obviously Nomura directing it. In interviews, he talks about the creative process behind it.

Is there a comparable remake in gaming, movies?

TN: If I say anything, then that could reveal too much. If I say, "It's a bit like this," you'll suddenly think: "Ah well, then that's going to turn out just like that." In the trailer, at the end, I try to reference that: "The reunion at hand may bring joy, but it may bring fear. But let us embrace whatever it brings."

From the Engadget interview. He's a mastermind when it comes to trailers. I don't know what to make of his directorial work for mainline FFs yet, though.

I mean, the guy's trailers were so good, he caused an outcry over a character we barely knew anything about being rewritten.

 

[DiipuSurotu]

It's obviously Nomura directing it. In interviews, he talks about the creative process behind it.



From the Engadget interview. He's a mastermind when it comes to trailers. I don't know what to make of his directorial work for mainline FFs yet, though.

Yeah, the fact that it's filled with symbolism and references is a dead giveaway. Although I do hope Jun Akiyama is involved with the remake.

 

[The Last One]

Shinra soldiers in VII

Shinra Soldiers in CC

I think these are shinra soldiers from the Remake:

 

[Meccanical]

There digs look far too makeshift to be military digs for the world's global superpower.

Then again it's not like military personnel are entitled to top of the line gear.

 

[z1ggy]

I think these are shinra soldiers from the Remake:

I do think so as well, they are just a re-design. And they look pretty good.

Also, Midgar doesn´t look cyberpunk or steampunk to me, just more like a noir industrial zone. Which is awesome as hell.

 

[DiipuSurotu]

I think these are shinra soldiers from the Remake:

Shinra soldiers hiding from a Shinra helicopter. Makes sense.

 

[MatrixMan.EXE]

Shinra soldiers hiding from a Shinra helicopter. Makes sense.

Members of Avalanche is what I reckon.

 

[FranXico]

Shinra soldiers hiding from a Shinra helicopter. Makes sense.

So, because you see in the time span of two seconds a helicopter flying over, and them hiding behind a corner, that implies that they must be hiding from the helicopter?

 

[Ishida]

I think these are shinra soldiers from the Remake:

Well, they are carrying swords, which makes me think they are definitely members of SOLDIER. Normal Shin-Ra grunts did not carry swords, and neither did AVALANCHE members.

However, SOLDIER did not carry guns either.... Maybe they are Wutai army infiltrators...?

 

[DiipuSurotu]

Members of Avalanche is what I reckon.

I think it's Biggs and Jessie redesigned. They wear a red bandana like the originals (although not on the same spot). Biggs had a beard in the original art. While the character behind him doesn't have any obvious feminine feature (aside maybe from being a bit slim), SE for some reason felt like hiding the character's face unlike the other character.

Well, they are carrying swords, which makes me think they are definitely members of SOLDIER. Normal Shin-Ra grunts did not carry swords, and neither did AVALANCHE members.

However, SOLDIER did not carry guns either.... Maybe they are Wutai army infiltrators...?

I don't see their swords?

 

[Ishida]

I don't see their swords?

 

[BocoDragon]

It's clearly Solid Snake and Grey Fox on their way into Outer Heaven. Duh.

 

[DiipuSurotu]

pic

Thanks! How did I miss that

Wow. Whoever those guys are, I think Nomura definitely wanted it to be ambiguous so that people would speculate...

 

[Meccanical]

It's clearly Solid Snake and Grey Fox on their way into Outer Heaven. Duh.

Kojima confirmed for working on FF7R

 

[Oriel]

Holy shit, just found out Jesse was a girl.

 

[Shadow780]

Kojima confirmed for working on FF7R

Well, he will be a freelancer soon.

 

[BocoDragon]

I remember being confused about Jesse's gender back in the day. I think it switched in my mind, mid playthrough. Hell I wouldn't be surprised if there was some badly translated dialogue that added to the confusion.

Kojima confirmed for working on FF7R

I'd be fine with that lol.

 

[stargateheaven]

Hope they keep the multiple choice options. They were always funny

 

[Oriel]

I think these are shinra soldiers from the Remake:

FF: Black Ops. Sorry, that's what's coming to mind.

 

[Rogue Agent]

I'm thinking AVALANCHE. Could it be them bombing a Mako Reactor?

Holy shit, just found out Jesse was a girl.

Lol.

 

[Slair]

I think these are shinra soldiers from the Remake:

I may be completely wrong it's been a while since i replayed ff7 but this bit of the trailer reminded me of the support pillar scene in sector 7. Even has the helicopter at the top.

 

[DiipuSurotu]

I thought Tifa was Barret's girlfriend at first, but Jessie's gender seemed clear to me.

 

[SolVanderlyn]

Members of Avalanche is what I reckon.

I think so too.

Avalanche in BC

Shin-ra MPs in CC

They look too much like guerrilla soldiers to be official military personnel.

 

[Meccanical]

Since they both have red arm bands I'm also thinking AVALANCHE.

Highly doubt that's Biggs, Jessie, or Wedge because I feel like there designs would be closer to there oldones.

It wouldn't make sense for Barret and Cloud to be in line with the first game but not them.

I mean I know they were minor characters, but their designs were unique.

I thought Tifa was Barret's girlfriend at first, but Jessie's gender seemed clear to me.

I also thought Tifa was Marlene's mom.

 

[Oriel]

I'm thinking AVALANCHE. Could it be them bombing a Mako Reactor?




Lol.

That was my initial guess as well. Notice they seemed to be dodging that chopper overhead?

 

[BocoDragon]

Since they both have red arm bands I'm also thinking AVALANCHE.

Highly doubt that's Biggs, Jessie, or Wedge because I feel like there designs would be closer to there oldones.

It wouldn't make sense for Barret and Cloud to be in line with the first game but not them.

I mean I know they were minor characters, but their designs were unique.

Avalanche seemed like 5 people in the original, and I can't think of instances otherwise..?

But I wouldn't be surprised if they expanded Avalanche into being an expanded rebel group in a remake.

 

[Scrooge McDuck]

ugh why did change it? I hate their new look across the compilation.

Hmm? Their look in the Compilation doesn't really change much, does it?