Aerith has a completely distinct out though in that she's not even explicitly a love interest. You don't have to romance her at all in any fashion. She is important to Cloud, but she's important to Tifa and the rest of the group too, so when she dies, it impacts everyone.
It wasn't just to further Cloud.
With Luna, there is literally no other recourse, she is the love interest and that is the only conclusion to take from simply offing her.
Fair enough, take Aerith out of the examples then. Hell, take the "fridging" gender-politics issue out completely.
For me, the issue still remains that you can kill off characters in your story...but you need to put in adequate leg-work to make me give a damn. When Jarred died, I wondered why they were all so broken up. When Luna died I actually did feel a little sad, but not for Luna since I didn't give a damn about her, but for Noct who seemed sad. Otherwise, her death has such a little emotional investment that it just seems so anticlimactic.
I partially agree. I think the game as a whole is pretty bad, but Luna was one of the better parts of it (for me). She could have been much better, but I found what little of her character we saw more interesting than Noctis, Gladio, Ignis, and Prompto. I hated when she died only because I wanted more of her, but maybe that was the point. To tease us with her and Noct's reunion only to take it away before they'd gotten a chance to even say hi. But I enjoyed her interaction with Leviathan, her brother, and even that bit with the guard shoving a gun in her face more entertaining to watch than anything with Noctis. Now I know that isn't setting the bar very high....but still. I can't defend her much more though because like most everything else in this game she had the potential to be so much more.
We had this discussion in the other thread about the game's treatment of women, but this is the exact issue I think many people will end up having.
She's not actively that bad of an inclusion in the game (compared to something like how actively gross Cindy is). She's just kind of "meh," and while I wouldn't want a complete rehash of her, the problem is that we've kind of already seen this type of character before and done better too. It was Yuna. She was strong, and dynamic (had some appropriate flaws), and in love with Tidus, but she didn't exist
solely for Tidus' sake, which is what Luna seems to be. Luna existed as more than a simple narrative contrivance to move along the story that appeared for a grand total of maybe fifteen minutes, instead she was an active, visible participant in almost all of the events.
Not to argue against Luna because I like her....but I would go so far as to say her death didn't even push the narrative. They went and did the same thing they were going to do anywho. I think...But it is still bugging me. WHAT THE SHITE DID SHE DO TO ARDYN'S HAND?
I think people said that since she's an Oracle, she could feel the (literal) darkness inside of him and tried to heal him? Which of course pissed him off because he needed that darkness to complete his goals?