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Final Fantasy XV - Taipei Game Show 2015
- Thread starter Exentryk
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You need help removing those chopsticks from your ass?
plutoknight
Member
I'm betting Summer/Early Fall 2016 if they're targetting a WW release.
Looks good though. They're pretty deep in development; Tabata's cleaning up it seems. SE's recent resurgence has been interesting if nothing else.
Oh, nice! Interesting - thanks for posting. They seem like a good fit for the job then.
Kagari, how do you think the likely 2016 FFXV release will coincide with KH3's release?
KH3 is still early itself. I guess we'll have a better picture when they finally get around to talking about it some time this year.
ChiefofCitadelSecurity
Member
That's exactly how I look at it. When new media comes out I just smile and nod then push it to the side. I simply won't allow myself to fall into the hype pool.
Icyflamez96
Member
hype hype hype hype hype hype hype hype
Stereogatari
Banned
You're not wrong, but deep down we want to feel that true new game feeling. No doubt you're the same, the kind of new title that gives you goosebumps from the moment you unbox it. Absolutely nothing that has come out so far has given me that. Very few games will. FFXV is one and...
is the other.
IAmRandom31
Banned
At this point I am straight anxious to clear 8 hours from my schedule, sit back, kick up the surround sound and get immersed in Bloodborne.
Giddy as fuck for that game. Prob the first game of the next gen that has me straight giddy like a kid again. I was hyped as hell for Destiny too surely, but Bloodborne man. Something special
Giddy as fuck for that game. Prob the first game of the next gen that has me straight giddy like a kid again. I was hyped as hell for Destiny too surely, but Bloodborne man. Something special
I am LTTP but is XV going some see some form episodic release every two years instead one whole after episode duscae?
threelights
Member
Death Penalty
Member
Amen. At this stage, take every month needed to make this game a title that was worth the wait. I'd rather they take another half a decade than ship something less than this title needs to be.
JuanLatino
Member
Its really hard to believe that they wont make a sequel to this game, with all the work they put in it.
This is probably the most expensive mainline Final Fantasy Game right?
Or they reuse the assets of this game for ff16
time will tell
This is probably the most expensive mainline Final Fantasy Game right?
Or they reuse the assets of this game for ff16
time will tell
YunFang1130
Member
This is making the ps4 purchase that I made a few days ago worth it x3 . I can't wait to play the demo and the game!
Exentryk
Member
Sequels to XV are definitely going to happen, whether you like it or not.
Icyflamez96
Member
It better be.
JuanLatino
Member
i wouldnt have a problem with it. But didnt Tabata himself said that there wont be sequels?
threelights
Member
After FFXIII? I bet you if we are able to enter someone's house in FFXV that house will not have a hallway...
Only half-kidding.
Icyflamez96
Member
Yeah SE kind of overreacts to criticism from what I've seen.
FFX had complaints about being linear, so this made FF12 extremely open to the point where some people found it aimless at times. (Or maybe that just had something to do with FF12 being initially designed as an MMO)
So because of the FF12 criticism, they do FFXIII. Then that got criticism for being too linear, and bam, they go back to making a super open FF game. Which sounds like a good thing to me, but I've never played FF12 so I don't know exactly how open that was to make it feel "aimless," and we don't know exactly how open FFXV will be yet.
Exentryk
Member
XV is only showing the worlds like the 2D FFs, but in 3D. This is what FF always had.
Don't recall so, but link me the article if you find it.
I actually think the sequels idea is dead.
firebranded
Member
Do you think it's just for this one considering the development time? Or that it's finally going back to the new experience each time ideal.
Honestly I wouldn't mind one. But maybe a year after FFXVI, so that we get something completely fresh first.
They wouldn't even have to create a ton of new assets like for FFXIII-2 or LR. Basically just have a new story set in the same world, like Tales of Xillia 2 or, well, FFX-2 (though that one still had mostly new assets).
Exentryk
Member
Lol if you really think so.
I think people were burned pretty badly by the XIII sequels and SE is trying to distance themselves from falling into that sort of situation again.
No, just that they are focusing on finishing FFXV. Nomura seemed to have ideas for future stories which he has probably discussed about with Tabata, but all in all FFXV-1 is supposed to have a self-contained story with no cliffhangers. So probably either Noctis gets the crystal back or it gets destroyed or some other solution is reached, but some third party won't come out and steal it in front of Noctis after the final battle of the game with a "To be continued..." before the credits. Not to say something that happens in FFXV couldn't be a major plot point of a possible sequel (i.e. crystal gets destroyed -> FFXV-2 will be about a world coping to live without any crystals while some new threat arises), but yeah, it's not build as a trilogy or anything, but more as a world that does have room & some rought ideas for more stories if FFXV isn't a huge flop.
firebranded
Member
Ah understood, and agreed.
I do. Tabata said in an interview that the idea of "episodes" was no longer a thing. If you remember back in 2013 Nomura said the story was too big for one game and they were going to split it up. That seems not to be the case now.
LouisaFerre
Member
Honestly, I don't think FFXIII was intended to be so linear. Look at Toriyama's other games. He directed X-2, which was way less linear than FFX. FFXIII-2 and LR especially are both much less linear than XIII as well. With all the cut content from XIII due to technical issues in development, I think that was them just being unable to execute their vision, not reacting to criticism.
I think they'll probably just resort to milking through DLC. I've said this before, but if they do GTAIV style episodic content, I would find that significantly better than full blown sequels.
Pinko Marx
Banned
Do you think then that they'll reuse the systems they developed for XV into future FF's to save on the cost?
GreenMakoEyes
Member
maybe you mixed up with this one?
When I spoke to Nomura previously, he had mentioned a plan to release FFXV in segments. Is that concept still progressing now?
Tabata: We do not currently plan on releasing in segments. As director that was something I was concerned with because I thought it was important to complete it as my own title.
http://gematsu.com/2014/09/dengeki-final-fantasy-xv-type-0-hd-tgs-2014-interview
I was thinking that hehe.
That very well could me a mistranslation. There was never any clarity whether the interviewer meant something regards to an episodic release or not.
FFXV won't be episodic, obviously.
Does this mean they cut story elements from the game?
Or maybe the supposed sequels were to revolve around other lore bits and similar.
Go_Ly_Dow
Member
No idea if they will or not but I hope they will.
The tech has demonstrated absolutely everything expected from the biggest games in the industry. It will definitely serve well for future FF titles, much much better than XIII's tech.
Maybe they will recycle the worldmap too like they did with PS1 era FF's to seriously cut out dev time for each title.
No one really knows at this point, although Nomura did say XV was supposed to be its own contained thing but he wanted to make it a huge Epic.
ShinMaruku
Member
Speaking of sequel make the sequel to the best game "My psycho ex girlfriend from the future"
FF8
Exentryk
Member
You don't have to read interviews to work out whether sequels are happening or not. Sequels are just the name of the game with these big console projects. Nomura mentioned this too:
But like I said, you don't even need to read the interviews. Business wise, sequels are definitely happening. The assets are going to get reused one way or another, and they make the most sense in sequels.
threelights
Member
To be fair, SE is not the only one overreacting to FFXIII...
May also have to do with the fact that Crystal Tools shits itself when it's not doing closed quarters...
Anyway, there are plenty of ways to reuse assets that don't involve sequels to the game.
New IP set in a similar setting, or with a similar battle system. A FFXV game that is not necessarily a sequel. That kind of stuff.
There's a reason for that and that's because Toriyama went off the deep end with the sequels in so many ways. The games went from a small ensemble cast with an interesting premise to two-person party with time travel & paradoxes pulled out of Toriyama's ass to Lightning Jesus saving the world where time stands still (but kind of doesn't). Like... you could not have invented more crazy fan fiction no matter how hard you tried than what the official storyline turned out to be. If you had asked what FFXIII-2 would be after FFXIII's ending, I'd have thought it would be about the exploration of Pulse and them confronting some ancient evil that would endanger their attempts of a life in this harsh new world. With FFXV I get the sense that it's more like they have created an actual world that can fit more than one game with different cultures that interact with each other and have histories (& futures) together. It has potential more like Ogre Battles than whatever the clusterfuck that the story progression in LT was. And I think stuff like that could make people more interested in sequels.
I don't think sequels are necessarily a given, but they've likely had some planning sessions for what they could do with FFXV-2 if XV is a critical & commercial success. They'll probably not hamfist FFXV-2 & Prompto Returns down our throats if FFXV is as badly received as FFXIII or its sequels, but they'll definitely take advantage of its success if that's going to happen. They do learn, sometimes. They can do sequels while avoiding the pitfalls of Lightning Trilogy.
Exentryk
Member
Sequels aren't inherently bad. If you plan for them from the start (like the case is with XV), the stories in sequels don't have to jump through hoops to work (Paradox, Chaos etc like XIII's case).
The only thing that can help with this is releasing the next mainline entry within 2 years of the previous mainline entry. This addresses the issue of giving a new world and characters to the people who do not like the world or characters of previous mainline entry.
Unfortunately though, I don't think Square Enix can manage releasing numbered FFs for consoles within 2 years of each other and continue it.
The only thing that can help with this is releasing the next mainline entry within 2 years of the previous mainline entry. This addresses the issue of giving a new world and characters to the people who do not like the world or characters of previous mainline entry.
Unfortunately though, I don't think Square Enix can manage releasing numbered FFs for consoles within 2 years of each other and continue it.
FFXV-2 might already be in pre-production as we speak.
Simultaneous development of both projects could already be underway and that's the only way SE can release the sequel in a reasonable time frame.
FFXV-2 could come a year to a year and a half after the first one.That's the only way SE can catch up to the current market and keep the momentum going.
Simultaneous development of both projects could already be underway and that's the only way SE can release the sequel in a reasonable time frame.
FFXV-2 could come a year to a year and a half after the first one.That's the only way SE can catch up to the current market and keep the momentum going.
SE is notoriously bad with sequels though. I'd rather they just move on.
XIII-2 was my favourite game in the trilogy.
(And the only one I actually liked, for that matter)
Dark_castle
Junior Member
It's a shame that XIII-2 and even LR were being tied to XIII, becoming a trilogy. Because individually, they are actually pretty decent games with some cool idea gameplay wise. Had they gone extra miles and written a new story and characters from ground up, Lightning Returns could have been a new IP.