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Find out Cyclops' Fate in Death of X
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Zeus Molecules
illegal immigrants are stealing our air
Whedon's Cyclops should be the definitive Cyclops...... Hell his version of everybody but Wolverine was the best they had been written in years.
Whedon's Wolverine seems so split on good/bad.
That said overall his cast was cool so I'd be okay with that I think.
Crimson_Echidna
Banned
Yeah from what I read the Creeping Old Man Logan and Young Jean do to each other says otherwise.Logan will eternally have the L, sorry.
Or are those posts exaggerated?
Oh I won't say I support it.
Just that they have been keeping that attraction going even when aging him up and making her younger.
Coriolanus
Banned
Tbf given logan's age, if he cared about that he might as well become celibate. Doesn't matter if a girl is 20, 30, 40 or 50 if you're 130+. They all gon be way the fuck younger than you.
His love interest at that point comes down to Mystique, Apocolypse, and....? That's it off the top of my head.
true, but Jean of all people is just a tad too far.
I heard about this but not sure. haven't read OML
Aurean_Mentat
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I mean, lets go through the logic here:
The Inhumans detonate a bomb that sterilizes the mutant population, but its cool, because we need some of the X-Men to fill out other books, so we're going to ignore that.
The attitude of the general Marvel universe towards the mutants is that they need to be cool despite their stuff getting messed up on a regular basis. Cyclop's stance of 'there are no non-combatants' makes a ton of sense here.
'Hi, I'm Tony Stark. I'm going to try to kill/contain the Phoenix Force (Marvel U's version of God), but when it breaks up and possesses 5 people, its their fault. Not mine.'
I'm done with the X whatever until they bring back adult Cyclops and adult Emma (their relationship made so much sense), and stop making adult Cyclops the victim of editorial mandates. Find someone who can write that character (and Emma) well, and just let them go with it.
Or just reboot the entire universe. It really does need it.
The Inhumans detonate a bomb that sterilizes the mutant population, but its cool, because we need some of the X-Men to fill out other books, so we're going to ignore that.
The attitude of the general Marvel universe towards the mutants is that they need to be cool despite their stuff getting messed up on a regular basis. Cyclop's stance of 'there are no non-combatants' makes a ton of sense here.
'Hi, I'm Tony Stark. I'm going to try to kill/contain the Phoenix Force (Marvel U's version of God), but when it breaks up and possesses 5 people, its their fault. Not mine.'
I'm done with the X whatever until they bring back adult Cyclops and adult Emma (their relationship made so much sense), and stop making adult Cyclops the victim of editorial mandates. Find someone who can write that character (and Emma) well, and just let them go with it.
Or just reboot the entire universe. It really does need it.
Truth!
You must stop.
BKatastrophe
Member
Jean goes in to Logan's mind to convince him to go to join Storm's X-Men. It's weird considering their history, but I think Lemire's been making it a father/daughter thing. They protect each other because Logan sees it as a chance to keep this Jean from dying and she wants to help stop his future from coming true.
It's not a dynamic that I care for, but that's primarily because I dislike young Jean.
I see.
Yeah not sure what to think. Then again Jean/Logan at this point is on the level of stupidity the whole Tchalla and Storm so I just don't care for it.
IndoAssassin
Banned
Going off of the recent books, looks like Storm has a thing for old man. They almost kissed till Forge interrupted.
RoninChaos
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Is there a good reading list for the Xmen after Whedon's run?
I'll stop when they bring back the Ultimate Universe. Or if hell freezes over. Whichever comes first.
Supermanisdead
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There's like 8 years of storylines. And if you only read Whedon's run and not the other concurrent series, you missed out on even more major events like House of M and Messiah Complex that weren't really addressed in Astonishing X-Men.
BKatastrophe
Member
Are we including X-Force? If so, I'll throw in some runs that I've really liked that have occurred since then:
-Warren Ellis' Astonishing X-Men (specifically volumes 5 & 6, titled Ghost Box and Exogenetic, respectively)
-Craig Kyle and Chris Yost's X-Force
-Messiah Complex
-Messiah War
-Rick Remender's Uncanny X-Force
-Brian Michael Bendis' All-New X-Men
-Brian Michael Bendis' Uncanny X-Men
-Trial of Jean Grey
-Si Spurrier's X-Force
These are simply from oldest to newest. There is a little bit of a reading order involving the Messiah stuff and X-Force, as well as Bendis' stuff, but otherwise you're good to go.
http://comicvine.gamespot.com/x-men/4060-3173/forums/guide-to-reading-x-men-comics-1727695/
Click on the link provided. It covers the beginning of X-men till now by decade. Holy grail of reading guides
Edit: and yes it tells you exactly what to read after whedons run to catch up to current x men
Dante got you covered on that second one.
Aurean_Mentat
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It depends on how you feel about the whole AvX mess. If you're OK with it (or Marvel hasn't lost you because of the stupid crap) then yeah, go with the reading list above ComicVine guide to X-Men comics .
Actually, the more I look at that list, the more I like it no matter what your stance it. It delineates the eras well, and provides pretty good stopping points to get off the train at whatever point they might lose you.
Man I just provided that link
Parallax
best seen in the classic "Shadow of the Beast"
thats an unprepared man getting some cosmic level ass. hes got an app for that.
no it isnt
Imperfected
Member
Yeah, you got me there. Namor is a trampy fishboy.
excelsiorlef
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#AlwaysAndForever
#NowAreThe SummersOfOurMutantRevolution
#HaveYouThankedScottToday?
exmachina64
Banned
It's supposed to be normal, but (in a weird plot move) the Phoenix Force broke his powers. His optic blasts became highly distorted.
BKatastrophe
Member
Wasn't the Phoenix. It was Dark Beast. He injected Emma Frost, Magneto, and Cyclops with Nano-sentinels. Only those three though. I don't exactly remember why Magik's powers went haywire. Something about abusing Limbo.
Crow Pudding
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You are about 40 years too late
Is not all marvel universe taking the plots and moving slowly towards Earth X?
I have the feeling that after reading the X trilogy I don't really need to read anything the last 10 years of marvel....
Oh man I need to see the reaction to this from the X-books board on CBR.looks like it is on
exmachina64
Banned
Thanks for the correction, I don't think I hung around long enough on Uncanny to learn that.
I hope the inhumans movie fucking flops so this mess can be overturned.
Even if it flops they won't stop doing this to xmen until they get the rights back.
Crow Pudding
Member
It's sad but marvel is not going to do that inhumans movie.
Anyway the characters only need more good stories as that one from Jenkins and Lee.
Anyway the characters only need more good stories as that one from Jenkins and Lee.
Primethius
Banned
This thread really hammers in how much I dislike Marvel's editorial team over the years.
Just so many stupid decisions.
Just so many stupid decisions.
LordRaptor
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e:
No love for Mike Careys adjectiveless / legacy run?
e2:
More people should read Peter Davids X-Factor, just because more people should read Peter Davids X-Factor
exmachina64
Banned
Wait is Kurt dead again?
he only died once.
So whats tgis about burning alive? A what if? Or just a cover thing? Cant look at the links right now.
just an variant cover. Night crawler is alive in the ongoing so it is safe to assume he survives Death of X
I see thanks, I just haven't been keeping up with X-Men comics
Yeah, now worries. Nightcrawler is alive & well in Extraordinary X-Men.
BKatastrophe
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Because Young Jean is trash
e:
No love for Mike Careys adjectiveless / legacy run?
e2:
More people should read Peter Davids X-Factor, just because more people should read Peter Davids X-Factor
Also I haven't read either of those
The cover is based off of what Kurt
attempting amd failing to save a ton of mutants from being murdered by a village mob
Young Jean is a piece of shit. I spent too long hoping she'd be killed off like og Jean.
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