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Fire Emblem if / Fates Character Popularity Poll Results
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Finale Fireworker
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I think you're reacting very severely to something so innocuous. Do you really think changes in localization are disturbing? Because that's ridiculous.
Reading the article above, it's clear that the Japanese Henry was far, far more subtle in a distinctly Japanese way. He relied on punctuation to convey tone that does not exist in our language. He used cultural signifiers that have no meaning in our culture, like the "least-manly" apology and "inappropriate" laughter.
Henry's Japanese character was a child-like character with a dark streak.
Henry's localized character is a child-like character with a bold dark streak.
As to why this is, it's very clear that the way Henry's identity was portrayed in Japanese was impossible in English. What Americans constitute as childish and child-like is also different than Japanese natives, and the task of translating Henry's "essence" meant adapting his gimmick in a way that would read easily to westerners.
Henry's western character is not subtle. Henry is a gag character. Henry is still a child-like dark wizard. But the severity of the changes seem to me only to make him as unique as possible. Could Henry have been more subtle? Of course. But... did he need to be? Would most people have liked him better as a rather straight-faced juvenile with a childish innocence and love for nature? Would that have been a better character?
I mean, maybe. Henry's western character is the comic relief. Other characters play off of him. He served a different purpose, for better or for worse.
I don't know how I personally would have localized Henry. He's not a character I like. But he seems fairly popular on Tumblr. I don't think he is popular in Japan at all. So maybe those changes worked?
Perhaps I'm misunderstanding you, but the graphics in the face touching minigame aren't 3D, they're all 2D drawings with a bunch of 2D pieces that move around. You only ever see them from head on anyway, so it doesn't matter too much.
Based on the fan translations, I like Japanese Henry more.
And Henry is pretty popular in Japan, he came in #4 out of all male characters only losing to Chrom, Gaius, and Owain. Henry/Olivia was also my favorite support based on the fan translations (and Japan seems to be a big fan of this too considering they're the #3 favorite pairing after only Chrom/FeMU and Virion/Cherche) but the localized version loses all of the charm and romantic nature. Made even worse when the Henry/Inigo DLC conversation is very obviously based on the Japanese version rather than the localized version. I feel like I've seen a good amount of people who share the same sentiments but obviously you'll always have far more people who have no idea that Japanese Henry is different from English Henry so it's hard to say whether most people would prefer one or the other. It also helps that memetic characters (English Henry) tend to get more attention online, even if they're not well written characters per se.But meh. I personally probably was more annoyed by the changes when I first started playing the game but then the game started throwing quirkier and quirkier characters at me and I just stopped caring lol.
Guess I'll always have my favorites from older games to fall back to. Yeah you could get characters who were also super quirky and tropey with no development (Kieran, Mia, Ilyana, I'm looking at you) or just really boring (Lowen, a bunch of FE8 characters), but you also get things like Rolf struggling with his emotions after taking someone's life for the first time, Jill and Lethe working through their racist issues, Bastian being a far bigger contrast of pretend fool and competent tactician than Virion ever was, Matthew and Jaffar
coming to terms with the loss of a loved one and newfound emotions respectively
their shared tragic history
Anyways, my main hope for Fates supports is that there will be more supports that don't follow the quirk clashes with quirk leading to love formula. I've heard this is true? I hope?
Then you see it at that wonderful 400 x 240 resolution.
Isn't bootleg Tharja the game's lesbian? That probably hurt her rankings placement.
SolVanderlyn
Thanos acquires the fully powered Infinity Gauntlet in The Avengers: Infinity War, but loses when all the superheroes team up together to stop him.
The gay guy ranked really high so I don't think it's because of that. All the Hosbido kids did fairly poorly.
Not lesbian, she can marry men.
Chaotic-Strike
Banned
I wouldn't be surprised if their placement is due to a larger female audience voting over males just going by the poll results.
It would be nice if we had some numbers to confirm this.
Hours Left
Member
The my room portraits are so beautiful.
Aveyn Knight
Member
That's actually his name, but I guess it's weird out of context.
Also, that last one is what his name means in Japanese : P
In the localisation, he's simply "breeze" (or "wind").
Flannel is his name tho.
Panne was also called Velvet in (Japanese) Awakening. (...And... "Panne" in itself is a kind of velvet)
Also, Yarne.
Megidolaon
Member
I voted a few times in that poll. I voted for Leo and Takumi for the guys, and for Camilla and Hinoka for the females.
Glad to see Japan mostly agrees with my tastes
I do love Marx/Xander, too though.
I do kinda agree that too many of the females look too similar.
Glad to see Japan mostly agrees with my tastes
I do love Marx/Xander, too though.
I do kinda agree that too many of the females look too similar.
It's funny that she has negative strength despite her appearance.
Ulysses 31
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captainpat
Member
I wasn't really interested in this game...
but Hinoka is a solid design.
And she can do the Manji Copter?! Truly, truly bro material.
Is she using her polearm as a makeshift helicopter?That is some looney tunes looking shit
I'm gonna guess that scene's not gonna make it in the western release
dakkumauji
Member
painted on abs
...How the hell does that work?!
Is this an actual thing?
dakkumauji
Member
huuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuum
Mr. Nice_Guy
Member
Wait those are suppose to be new characters? I haven't looked at anything yet because I wanted to go in blind, but looking at the poll I just randomly thought Giaus and Severa were just in the game again. Geez
Triforce141
Member
To put it shortly,
Owain, Inigo and Severa are the same ones from Awakening, there's a DLC chapter that explains why they're in Fates
Gaius, Cordelia, and Tharja are not in this game, they are reincarnations of the three
If you want to make some sort of time paradox,
in the third route, Revelations, make Severa marry the person who's the father of Matoi (Cordelia reincarnation).
theprodigy
Member
Reminder: Sakura, your shy little sister, has a higher personal strength growth than Rinka.
This will never fail to amuse me.
This will never fail to amuse me.
Megidolaon
Member
Must be that royal Illuminati bloodline.
Spoiler:
Severa, Inigo, and Owain did some dimensional travel BS, and are in the game, however bootleg Gaius, Tharja, and Cordelia have no such excuse for looking alike.
I'm not adamant on that being the cause (especially since it was pointed out that's she's not exclusively girl-only), but from my experience lesbians are noticeably lower on the social ladder than gay guys are. So I'm willing to bet there's a very different attitude taken toward gay female characters than gay male ones.
Cow Mengde
Banned
Yeah, they need a new artist. This guys doesn't work.
Hours Left
Member
That was done on purpose.
Cow Mengde
Banned
Because?
Fan polls from the previous game.
Hours Left
Member
Dangansona
Member
Is this shit actually in the game?
Yep, occurs during the Hoshido route, specifically.
It's not confirmed yet, as there are no pictures of the book, but apparently the behind the scenes anniversary book the released in Japan recently says that scene is the only reason Fates got a rating bump in Japan. (Saying again: No images of the text in the book are available, so this isn't actually confirmed)
Knowing NoA they'll now put her in nun's clothing for that scene...ok that might actually be kind of hot too. Do it NoA.
At least Japan got two of the three Awakening kids right if we were going to get repeats.
Nah, they will just stick a random flag or banner in front of her. Nun outfits cost money to design.
Dangansona
Member
dakkumauji
Member
they'll compeltely replace her with a piece of cloth
Megidolaon
Member
Yeah, I thought that at first too,but she's grown on me. She's an affectionate older sister type and seems like just a flirtatious princess who likes to strut around to me. She acts that way because of her pampered upbringing.
I find her more humorous than anything. But I fear they'll censor the cutscenes or some of the other content.
...Hm?
I mentioned the rating thing because I like spouting trivia that is tangentially related to my conversations. I didn't mean to imply anything about you.
Yeah, I thought that at first too,but she's grown on me. She's an affectionate older sister type and seems like just a flirtatious princess who likes to strut around to me. She acts that way because of her pampered upbringing.
In her supports (with... Zero? I think.) she mentions her mother being a piece of shit, and that's why she's so affectionate to her siblings, because she didn't have a qualified mother. :U
Astral Dog
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Megidolaon
Member
I like her even more now. I always liked the older sister types.
Yeah, Nohr's whole family is screwed.
I don't think this is really a story spoiler, as most of this info is in supports, and isn't some plot twist or anything, but I'll spoiler it.
Basically, Xander is the only child from a marriage, Camilla, Leo and Elise are all from Garon's mistresses, they're all half siblings and only share a father. There's apparently a lot of competition between women for Garon >.> The kids get along well enough, but their family is pretty dysfunctional. I think it's a shame this info stays mostly in the realm of supports, it's interesting.