Arcadialane
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Do teen girls who watch disney tv shows play many video games? That seems to be the target audience.
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Forspoken is cringy
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SmokedMeat
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That’s what I’m starting to wonder.
Marketing clip aside, the game itself looks like it may be good. Hopefully she’s not like that clip in the actual game.
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Reizo Ryuu
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Expected from Gaf really, you see the same reactions when music is used that isn't rock/metal.
newtypepilot
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TheSHEEEP
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Eh, that's just a "screenplay" tool to communicate the character's thoughts.
Not the best one, clearly, but I think you have to separate that from what is actually being said.
At least Alloy wasn't "what a 55 year old thinks a 12 year old talks like" aka "MCU, but written by Reddit".
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{insert code here}
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Reminds me of when JP devs tried to make "westernized" games during the 7th Gen to cater to the CoD/Gears crowd. There's a big difference however where back then the dudebros actually had cash to burn. The woke crowd this game is pandering to, I don't think they have any money.
nkarafo
Member
That's modern games for you.
"We have unlimited storage, what else can we fit? More voice samples!"
"We no longer have to use text, videogame tech allow voices now, so have at it"
"Voice acting is expensive, we are going to shove it in your ears"
"Videogames are story now. Story is like movies, yes? Movies have talk. So, talk"
TheSHEEEP
Gold Member
Where do you get that "depth" idea from?
From the trailers so far, it seems to be the "depth" of a 14 year old girl (as imagined by an old man).
Someone who talks like that is not a "normal human being".
I've seen human beings. Nobody ever talks like that outside of kid cartoons.
There should be more normal imperfect characters in games.
And they are great if they are written well and talk convincingly.
See, for example, everyone in Disco Elysium.
But this one is just plain badly written, if the trailers are anything to go by.
It's just pure "how do you do, fellow kids?!". Hence, cringe.
Got nothing to do with being badass or not.
Kaachan
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This is the results of Japanese developers trying to make/appeal a Westernized game unless you are Kojima
The world and gameplay itself looks interesting by all means, but I really can't stand the character's voice acting and her sassy movie dialogues. It's like the game was written for an 8-year old
Just awful
The world and gameplay itself looks interesting by all means, but I really can't stand the character's voice acting and her sassy movie dialogues. It's like the game was written for an 8-year old
Just awful
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DenchDeckard
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Sorry if I have offended. I can't work out if I have been too crude for the internet or not.
I'm not making a real negative comment on her, Im sure shes great. She is very attractive.
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Meicyn
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The dialogue is likely stitched together out of context, Square Enix does that all the time in their trailers.
Also, for the record, this is how Dragon Age Origins was marketed.
I remember the outcry on this very forum over Bioware’s music choice at the time. But folks who love RPGs were already buying, marketing to us wouldn’t make sense.
I don’t know who Forspoken is being marketed to, but the point of marketing is partly to expand your reach to a new audience. Square is obviously after that girl power audience here, and maybe this is what they want? I can’t relate. Hope the game is fun, overly talkative protagonists are annoying though whether it’s Aloy or Peter Parker. Wish they’d take cues from Geralt of Rivia or Henry of Skallitz and shut the fuck up a notch.
Spaceman292
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Uh...yeah, so I guess I'm, like, shooting magic at a freaking dragon right now? Or something? Weird, right....?
TrebleShot
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the marvel cinematic universe is to blame for this dialogue and its so so ba.
nkarafo
Member
You think a "normal human being" would be sassy like that if they woke up in a fantasy world with big dragons trying to kill them?
I doubt 1 out of the 7 billion people on earth would act like this.
I know, videogames aren't suppose to have normal human beings in them. But this one i simply cringe.
Go_Ly_Dow
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Feels like a Netflix take on a Japanese IP.
That doesn't make sense though.
The writers ARE western writers. You can possible blame SQE for not managing the project well enough and thus misunderstandings and other possible problems popping up that would degrade story and dialogue, but the dialog, story and the voice acting (the things you specifically complain about) was done in the west.
Which I personally think was a mistake to do in concept. but I don't blame the jap devs.
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Spaceman292
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If a real human being saw a dragon they'd scream and shit themselves. They wouldn't just mumble some lame one liner to themselves.
TheGodfather07
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The characters have been cringy from the start to be honest but the gameplay looks decent. The traversal looks fun. Could be worth a play when it's added to ps plus.
nkarafo
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More like a 50+ year old soccer mom trying to write a young female character by taking cues from her 12 year old daughter, by spying her when she talks on the phone.
MMaRsu
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I have no problem with imperfect characters, but I do have an issue with annoying characters.
captainnapalm
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It's just painfully self-aware and self-conscious. Yes, there have been a million regular-person-gets-strange-powers stories, but it's still better if your story treats it like it's something new. These obvious girl power/diversity characters are also frequently very badly written. They tend to not follow basic rules about good characterization.
At least it's a new character for a change and not a race or gender-swapped one, so it definitely gets a point there. Might buy on sale one day if the gameplay is fun.
At least it's a new character for a change and not a race or gender-swapped one, so it definitely gets a point there. Might buy on sale one day if the gameplay is fun.
I hate it when people talk like that.
First I hate when people assume what I've been wondering about or not. I also despise when books, texts of any kind or game assume I'm stupid. Second, no need to "introduce" that your point is about to come across, just tell me already. It's the same with people who start off with "can we talk about something something?" no? what should I tell you? just do it damnit.
It's not cringe though, just annoying. When did everything become cringe the last fucking years?
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bitbydeath
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Would you really scream and shit yourself?
Seeing a dragon would be amazing.
FunkMiller
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Absolutely fucking awful.
Comes from the same school of writing as Disney Star Wars.
'They fly now?'
'They fly now!'
Comes from the same school of writing as Disney Star Wars.
'They fly now?'
'They fly now!'
Reizo Ryuu
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And waking up with awesome abilities; how could you not be filled with joy/wonder/amazement, unless you're some kind of cynic/depressed fuck.
YOU PC BRO?!
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What is it with these unlikeable female characters? I first noticed it when I played Spider-Man Miles Morales which overall I enjoyed. The ‘Taskmaster‘ was just the worst though - barely any redeemable qualities and treated Miles like trash throughout. Even in flashback scenes. I then noticed the same thing when I watched the Invincible series. His girlfriend who I initially liked then started this same nonsense. We later found out she was aware of his superhero identity the entire time and was just being a bitch for no reason??? He saved his best friend and nearly died and she still found a way to turn it into something about her. Recently with the RE series I noticed the same thing as the main characters were completely full of themselves and treated everyone else like crap. Now I’m getting the same vibes from Forspoken with this poorly written and poorly voice acted protagonist. It genuinely feels like a waste of the setting, cool looking combat and traversal system to squander on such a full of themselves, unlikeable cringey character.
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DonkeyPunchJr
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That was cringe alright. She’s like female Tidus.
FunkMiller
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They're trying to sell their games to a wider demographic.
At some point, someone decided that male gamers were a given, in-built audience, and games like this don't need to directly appeal to them anymore. They're going to buy the game anyway.
But there's a big audience of female gamers out there, whose money they are desperate to also get hold of. So we get characters like this, who are supposed to appeal to female gamers.
I can't help but think most women would look at this patronising, cringeworthy shit and come to the same conclusion as us blokes:
Don't buy this garbage.
nkarafo
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Female activist writers tend to write themselves into their characters.
And yes, they are always full of themselves like that.
Punished Miku
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That's the mindset of all TV and all movies for the last 10 years.
Now all men do is play games. Thank god that gaming is a lot more international and we get stuff from around the world.
Dr.Morris79
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SHE WILL RISE!
..Unlike the sales
Gotta love women writers. Booo, down with the patriarchy! Up with these wonderfully written stories we all love across most media nowdays. Truly loving it
Keep going, ladies, you're killing it. literally.
..A sexist would say.
..Unlike the sales
Gotta love women writers. Booo, down with the patriarchy! Up with these wonderfully written stories we all love across most media nowdays. Truly loving it
Keep going, ladies, you're killing it. literally.
..A sexist would say.
prinz_valium
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Who would buy Forspoken if you can play A Plague Tale
Dr.Morris79
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Thats... actually not a bad idea
FunkMiller
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You do tend to get the impression that large swathes of the entertainment industry think dudes will just keep consuming everything that's put in front of them.
The sad thing is they might be right, in a lot of cases.
I would suggest things would be very different, if we all stopped buying this stuff.... instead of purchasing it - and then complaining about it. Why would they stop?
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balls of snow
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Soo people like bland Aloy then. Good to know.
supernova8
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Yeah this may be another Xenoblade 2 situation where the English voice-acting is absolutely diabolic and the Japanese voice-acting is totally fine/normal. The problem is, if any of those bullshit Japanese TV shows where they dub over some real life mystery story in Japanese (like having borderline pensioner women Japanese VAs add fucking わ～～～～ to everything for barely late 20s/barely 30s English-speaking women) are anything to go by, the Japanese dub could also end up being cringey as fuck.
Black_Stride
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No offence.
I just came to the realization mid post that indeed all her projects end up being pretty bad.
I was so sure she was in something successful atleast commercially but even the Charlies Angels reboot actually bombed.
We dont speak about Resident Evil, so im really rooting for this game to atleast be good to play.
If the voice acting is really bad ill just play it in japanese or something.
Punished Miku
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It's basically MCU Thor. You take a grizzled viking god and turn him into a male model that shows his nude ass on screen. Put in tons of comedy and light hearted scenes. But hope that the guys stick around in the misguided belief that any of this is for them. It works sometimes.
supernova8
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