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Gamasutra: If MS moneyhatted an exclusive next-gen version of GTA5, they'd kill Sony
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fabricated backlash
Member
And the blatant hyperbole continues. Killing a console...
What a load of shite.
What a load of shite.
bigboss370
Member
no, and they (third parties) also want/love systems at parity, which is why they'll always develop at lowest common denominator. they're looking for greatest entertainment share, so they don't want the audience of an entire other system playing something else. they want everyone to play/buy what they create, all the time.
Ashler
Member
Yeah, highly doubt that GTA 5 be an xbox exclusive (if it were to happen) would kill Sony.
Actually, let me rephrase that, I doubt that any single multi-platform game moving to an exclusive for any single console would kill that console. Could it hurt said console hardware sales (bundled in) for some time? maybe... but if a console's success was measured over a single IP, it would not last very long anyway.
Actually, let me rephrase that, I doubt that any single multi-platform game moving to an exclusive for any single console would kill that console. Could it hurt said console hardware sales (bundled in) for some time? maybe... but if a console's success was measured over a single IP, it would not last very long anyway.
An early exclusive when at best Durango could sell out its first couple of shipments and Orbis at worst could have a front loaded launch from Sony fans with a few months of a draught until more games pour in? Especially with the games being on the older consoles and maybe PC? Would certainly kill some buzz and maybe lead to eraly PS3 like performance, but Sony managed to climb out if an even worse situation with PS3 where the global economy was tanking just as they got some good games for their 599 currencies of choice console that bled money like crazy.
No, MS can't kill PS4 unless they moneyhat CoD, GTA and ALL the sports games, IMO. Even then it'd probably have a profitable if niche life, like Gamecube, unless Sony is planning massive losses on hw sold again.
No, MS can't kill PS4 unless they moneyhat CoD, GTA and ALL the sports games, IMO. Even then it'd probably have a profitable if niche life, like Gamecube, unless Sony is planning massive losses on hw sold again.
dead monkey uk
Member
This, GTA V is a current gen game. Its possible there could be a next gen version that may have improved textures etc, would probably be similar to the PC version.
Where MS has a chance in putting one over on Sony is through timed exclusive content, Map packs in COD and expansions of GTA. But Kill Sony as thread says, no way
Even if GTA and COD never released on the PS4 (even though it would not happen) Sony's sales would still be fine.
Glass Rebel
Member
I guess even Gamasutra has to resort to gaming journalist tactics from time to time.
90TilInfinity
Member
There are sad, sad "gamers" who are desperate for a monopoly though.
It's like these people didn't see the 80'/90'...
then again we have plenty of corporate cheerleaders here
Ashler
Member
Well, to be fair, now all of them were around, or at least aware of their surroundings at that time. Its 2013 after all.
Clay Davis
Member
it's an interesting article, but I feel exclusives (outside of first party offerings) just aren't financially viable any more.
the best that either can hope for is timed exclusive downloadable content, be that missions, characters, full blown episodes / expansions.
where the new battles lies for exclusives will be drawn next gen is in the digital domain. indie / niche titles published through their respective online stores will feature heavily I feel next gen. both will be on the look out for the next Minecraft, the next Trials, the next Journey and so on.
then there's the new IP battle. these may also feature heavily as well, microsoft are all buy guaranteed to lay down big bucks for whatever epic are working on after they struck success with gears of war. sony might not be as willing due to their excellent and incredibly talented first party studios, but even they may surprise us.
but established AAA big budget third party exclusives? I just can't see it happening any more.
the best that either can hope for is timed exclusive downloadable content, be that missions, characters, full blown episodes / expansions.
where the new battles lies for exclusives will be drawn next gen is in the digital domain. indie / niche titles published through their respective online stores will feature heavily I feel next gen. both will be on the look out for the next Minecraft, the next Trials, the next Journey and so on.
then there's the new IP battle. these may also feature heavily as well, microsoft are all buy guaranteed to lay down big bucks for whatever epic are working on after they struck success with gears of war. sony might not be as willing due to their excellent and incredibly talented first party studios, but even they may surprise us.
but established AAA big budget third party exclusives? I just can't see it happening any more.
Step 1: Buy CoD as an exclusive
Step 2: Double Xbox Live fees to $10 a month
Step 3: Profit
I don't see it as likely but definitely possible. They spent the same amount of money to market Kinect.
An exclusive GTA V port wouldn't be that big a deal to begin with. The new consoles are not likely to launch before November, at which point GTA V would have been in release for a couple of months, and everyone who wants to will have played it.
An exclusive window on the next COD is actually plausible. If Activision is doing a cross-gen release and publishing it on 360/PS3 as well, they would not be foregoing a huge amount of sales by keeping it off one of the next gen platforms for a few months.
An exclusive window on the next COD is actually plausible. If Activision is doing a cross-gen release and publishing it on 360/PS3 as well, they would not be foregoing a huge amount of sales by keeping it off one of the next gen platforms for a few months.
NoirVisage
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Baconsammy
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The thing is they don't have to pay for a full exclusive. If they paid for a timed exclusive of even just a few months, it would have a huge impact.
Clay Davis
Member
there's method to the madness. it might have worked earlier this generation, after modern warfare, but it's far too late now. the best either can hope for is timed exclusive dlc.
Noisepurge
Member
and Microsoft is? seriously doubt it.
Baconsammy
Banned
Doubt it all you want. Doesn't make it less true.
Acheteedo
Member
Haha, I love the start of new generations, everyone gets so edgy and defensive.
The amount of money necessary to make COD and GTA5 exclusive to any platform should be enough deterrent. And COD is already showing yoy diminishing numbers, Activision wouldn't want to restrict even more its target audience. The blood shed should be fantastic though, and I'm not so sure it would be on the opposite side of the exclusivity agreement.
Clay Davis
Member
I agree, from here on out.
why? it raises some interesting questions about how exclusives could impact next gen. obviously using grand theft auto was a little misguided, but the core point the article is making is an interesting one and one that deserves a better standard of discussion.
No it wouldn't. A majority of GTAV's buyers are on PS3, Xbox 360 & PC, not Nextbox. The impact would be minimal, at best.
I don't think even GTAVI would be that major a strike against Orbis. GTAV is being released in late 2013, possibly mere months before the next-gen arrives. Developing GTAVI will undoubtedly take at least 3 years, if not more. At that point no one game can kill a console. It can help Durango gain a bigger lead on Orbis or help Durango catch up to Orbis (whichever is the situation), but outright kill Orbis? lol.
huh, it's raking in the dough.
Clay Davis
Member
I concede that article direction / basis wasn't the most wise, but I still feel there's an interesting dicussion to be had. it's obviously not possible due to the basis of the article though, maybe at some point in the future, but I feel this discussion (regarding exclusivity and how important it will be) is a pretty interesting one.
Chuck Norris
Banned
MS launched trucks of money at developers this gen, how many did they actually get as a time exclusive?
Baconsammy
Banned
The impact would be huge. I didn't say kill. 360 has Minecraft, ps3 doesn't. Big impact, but doesn't kill anything.
The impact wouldn't be huge at all for the simple reason I already mentioned, there are three other platforms with vastly bigger userbases than Durango would have. The impact would be miniscule, especially relative to the amount of $$$ MS would probably have to pay for it.
Minecrafts 360 has sold really well, but has its impact been that big, really? I haven't really been following sales-age that much, but I don't remember reading anything about Minecraft being a huge deal in the competition between PS3 & 360.
Mace Griffin
Neo Member
On a side note.
What has the standard of games come to when an utterly poor game like COD is so popular that it hypothetically being made exclusive for the 720 actually stimulates discussion about Orbis failing due to the lack of said game?
What has the standard of games come to when an utterly poor game like COD is so popular that it hypothetically being made exclusive for the 720 actually stimulates discussion about Orbis failing due to the lack of said game?
Captain Tuttle
Member
I don't think GTA is the franchise that it used to be.
Officerrob
Banned
I suggest you never visit one of the Orbis or Durango "leak" threads, that's what at least half of the posters in there do every time a nugget of rumored information comes out.
I don't know if you clicked the link but the actual title is "Why GTA V's delay could cause an industry-wide ripple effect"
it then goes on to speculate about a why GTA might have been delayed including the recent gun violence debate in America, possible console exclusive or the most likely (and most boring) it just needs more time and what all that could mean for other games.
the OP did a good job picking out the more inflammatory part and turning it into click bait though.
FantasticMrFoxdie
Mumber
Gamasutra really?
Yeah this would be a ridiculous amount of money. Money that could be used on much better things to strengthen a new console
Yeah this would be a ridiculous amount of money. Money that could be used on much better things to strengthen a new console
Clay Davis
Member
true, but there is still a basis for such a discussion, regardless of what we know about the consoles. at the same time it is better to wait until we have a more deeper understanding of what both consoles will be offering next gen.
I don't particularly agree that the faults lies on the OP. he made a thread using a select quote, it was up to everyone else to read the entire article and base their discussion on that instead of what the title and the quote suggested.
really what?
I read the article, but I totally tuned out and didn't read the orginal title. My bad, Gamasutra.
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