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Neogaf Sony fans have been banging on about on about how gamepass is not viable longterm but they always seem to want first party studios going on there and now they want to bundle two anime streaming services plus all Sony movies for £9.99.
This. Couldn't give a shit about PSNow, but music, movies and anime? Sign me up. Gotta feed my inner weeb.I prefer to buy my games and have no interest in PSNow but the entertainment side...having music, films, tv and anime is the part that really interests me...
This. Couldn't give a shit about PSNow, but music, movies and anime? Sign me up. Gotta feed my inner weeb.
You are completely and utterly wrong.IMO the target market of Game pass or any similar service that offer hundreds of games for $15/mo. is a niche market. The only ones who will find value in these services are trophy hunters or those who play several games a month. Fifa/Fortnite/COD gamers don't fit in that category.
Just wait when MS will purchase ValveNever ever gonna happen but imagine a 'Steam Pass'...
One price per month, access to frigging everything including DLC. Pipe dream I know but... imagine how awesome it'd be...
This. Couldn't give a shit about PSNow, but music, movies and anime? Sign me up. Gotta feed my inner weeb.
I think this is a sure thing, but how they price it will be interesting.
$15 for PSNow and Crunchyroll bundled would be a pretty damn good deal considering Netflix is close to that price and is full of trash "Originals".
Don't forget that Sony is one of three biggest music publishers in the world.Reading this thread i just realized the Arsenal Sony has upon it´s sleees.
PlayStation Studios
PS Now
Ps Plus (Biggest Gaming Sub by FAR)
Crunchy and Funi
Sony Pictures (Tristar/Colombia/Animation Studio)
Aniplex (Anime/Gaming Juggernaut)
Jesus fucking Christ.
I'd take 1.What do you think of this pricing similar to Netflix.
1. $8.99 (1 screen) - Movies, Shows, Anime, No games
2. $17.99 (4 screens) - Movies, Shows, Anime, Game Streaming (1 instance only)
Don't forget that Sony is one of three biggest music publishers in the world.
Potential of course is big, I toyed with that idea too - I just wasn't that categorical regarding that GamePass is niche or that suddenly PS One or whatever will gain tens of millions subscribers over night.
Fundamental issue with the subscription service for Sony is that you need to produce the content. Whether it is TV series, anime, movies you need to produce them in huge quality. How many originals does Netflix have? How many TV series Disney has just announced? You need content and content should keep people on the service. Not to mention most of Sony games do not encourage multiple walkthroughs - people can live in TES for years, while how many people would replay UC4 for example? Or TLOU2? There are a lot of anime though, but I am not sure how often new anime is created - I recall it kinda seasonal or something.
The idea itself is valid though. Create a service PS One that combines anime, movies, TV series and games. It of course will cost more than 15$, but certainly less the threshold of 30-40$ per month. It will require sizeable investment from the Sony of course. Also a lot of Sony community does not like online gaming that much, hell they have probably the biggest amount of people who prefer physical over digital (though it is kinda changing these days which is good).
The difference is, with Xbox Game Pass you can download games natively on PC which is superior than Streaming. For PS Now this will never happen.Streaming service with only games on it is what is niche. MS will struggle big time with game pass.
Movies and shows is 50x larger. Anime is becoming one of the most watched shows in Netflix too.
The difference is, with Xbox Game Pass you can download games natively on PC which is superior than Streaming. For PS Now this will never happen.
Also, with Xbox Game Pass you'll get 20% off games, and 10% off DLCs.
LoL no. Netflix produces at least 30 originals each month. Even amazon prime produces on average 5 originals each month. Streaming requires that amount of output. And Disney also announced a lot of original for the same very reason.Sony already has tons of cotent. Games alone 2020 was bonkers, let alone combine that with Anime, Music, Picutres lmao it would be more content than anyone can ever watch in a lifetime coming month in month out.
LoL no. Netflix produces at least 30 originals each month. Even amazon prime produces on average 5 originals each month. Streaming requires that amount of output. And Disney also announced a lot of original for the same very reason.
And regarding games? How many games does Sony produce each year? These two years - 2020 and probably 2021 - are outlines in Sony output. And even with that they have at most 2-3 big games per year. Usually 1 or 2 though. Not to mention Sony's games have almost 0 replayability values - after completing them people rarely return. For streaming service it is not enough.
I was thinking games can still be downloaded on PS4/PS5 for compatible games.For streaming service it is not enough. And Sony community (fanboys at least) is hostile to online gaming in general but that's a separate matter.
LoL no. Netflix produces at least 30 originals each month. Even amazon prime produces on average 5 originals each month. Streaming requires that amount of output. And Disney also announced a lot of original for the same very reason.
And regarding games? How many games does Sony produce each year? These two years - 2020 and probably 2021 - are outlines in Sony output. And even with that they have at most 2-3 big games per year. Usually 1 or 2 though. Not to mention Sony's games have almost 0 replayability values - after completing them people rarely return. For streaming service it is not enough. And Sony community (fanboys at least) is hostile to online gaming in general but that's a separate matter.
But chill out. No need to be that aggressive.
Demon Slayer: Mugen Train - Daily Performance Tracker
10/16 - Fri.: ¥1,268,724,700 ($12.0 million) / 910,507
10/17 - Sat.: ¥1,701,723,350 ($16.2 million) / 1,270,234
10/18 - Sun.: ¥1,652,669,400 ($15.7 million) / 1,239,752
10/19 - Mon.: ¥735,000,000 ($7.0 million) / 545,000
10/20 - Tues.: ¥545,000,000 ($5.1 million) / 395,000
10/21 - Wed.: ¥635,000,000 ($6.0 million) / 505,000
10/22 - Thur.: ¥465,000,000 ($4.5 million) / 340,000
10/23 - Fri.: ¥700,000,000 ($6.7 million) / 510,000
10/24 - Sat.: ¥1,500,944,600 ($14.3 million) / 1,115,182
10/25 - Sun.: ¥1,540,504,150 ($14.7 million) / 1,157,654
10/26 - Mon.: ¥620,000,000 ($5.9 million) / 460,000
10/27 - Tues.: ¥410,000,000 ($3.9 million) / 300,000
10/28 - Wed.: ¥575,000,000 ($5.5 million) / 430,000
10/29 - Thur.: ¥390,000,000 ($3.7 million) / 285,000
10/30 - Fri.: ¥555,000,000 ($5.3 million) / 405,000
10/31 - Sat.: ¥1,212,312,550 ($11.6 million) / 887,893
11/01 - Sun.: ¥1,286,354,600 ($12.3 million) / 1,140,390 *Discount Day*
11/02 - Mon: ¥820,000,000 ($7.8 million) / 605,000 *Holiday Boosted*
11/03 - Tues.: ¥1,185,000,000 ($11.3 million) / 900,000 *Holiday*
11/04 - Wed.: ¥350,000,000 ($3.3 million) / 260,000
11/05 - Thur.: ¥230,000,000 ($2.2 million) / 170,000
11/06 - Fri.: ¥325,000,000 ($3.1 million) / 240,000
11/07 - Sat.: ¥863,827,750 ($8.3 million) / 628,614
11/08 - Sun.: ¥909,098,150 ($8.8 million) / 667,179
11/09 - Mon.: ¥315,000,000 ($3.0 million) / 230,000
11/10 - Tues.: ¥220,000,000 ($2.1 million) / 160,000
11/11 - Wed.: ¥295,000,000 ($2.8 million) / 230,000
11/12 - Thur.: ¥200,000,000 ($1.9 million) / 145,000
11/13 - Fri.: ¥310,000,000 ($3.0 million) / 225,000
11/14 - Sat.: ¥795,343,500 ($7.6 million) / 611,418
11/15 - Sun.: ¥726,313,550 ($6.9 million) / 535,986
11/16 - Mon.: ¥265,000,000 ($2.5 million) / 195,000
11/17 - Tues.: ¥165,000,000 ($1.6 million) / 120,000
11/18 - Wed.: ¥240,000,000 ($2.3 million) / 185,000
11/19 - Thur.: ¥165,000,000 ($1.6 million) / 120,000
11/20 - Fri.: ¥240,000,000 ($2.3 million) / 170,000
11/21 - Sat.: ¥439,606,550 ($4.2 million) / 314,726
11/22 - Sun.: ¥592,738,550 ($5.7 million) / 433,315
11/23 - Mon.: ¥460,110,250 ($4.4 million) / 357,741 *Holiday*
11/24 - Tues.: ¥125,000,000 ($1.2 million) / 90,000
11/25 - Wed.: ¥160,000,000 ($1.5 million) / 120,000
11/26 - Thur.: ¥120,000,000 ($1.1 million) / 85,000
11/27 - Fri.: ¥195,000,000 ($1.9 million) / 130,000
11/28 - Sat.: ¥556,443,300 ($5.3 million) / 392,017
11/29 - Sun: ¥448,060,450 ($4.3 million) / 320,031
11/30 - Mon.: ¥140,000,000 ($1.3 million) / 105,000
12/01 - Tues.: ¥170,000,000 ($1.6 million) / 145,000 *Discount Day*
12/02 - Wed.: ¥125,000,000 ($1.2 million) /100,000
12/03 - Thur.: ¥x95,000,000 ($0.9 million) / x70,000
12/04 - Fri.: ¥145,000,000 ($1.4 million) / 105,000
12/05 - Sat.: ¥319,013,550 ($3.1 million) / 225,976
12/06 - Sun.: ¥336,505,700 ($3.2 million) / 239,874
12/07 - Mon.: ¥100,000,000 ($1.0 million) / x75,000
12/08 - Tues.: ¥x85,000,000 ($0.8 million) / x55,000
12/09 - Wed.: ¥115,000,000 ($1.1 million) / x90,000
12/10 - Thur.: ¥x85,000,000 ($0.8 million) / x60,000
12/11 - Fri.: ¥115,000,000 ($1.1 million) / x80,000
12/12 - Sat.: ¥588,408,200 ($5.7 million) / 407,286
12/13 - Sun.: ¥351,003,000 ($3.4 million) / 248,024
12/14 - Mon.: ¥120,000,000 ($1.2 million) / x85,000
12/15 - Tues.: ¥x85,000,000 ($0.8 million) / x60,000
12/16 - Wed.: ¥110,000,000 ($1.1 million) / x85,000
12/17 - Thur.: ¥x75,000,000 ($0.7 million) / x55,000
12/18 - Fri.: ¥x90,000,000 ($0.9 million) / x65,000
12/19 - Sat.: ¥187,788,050 ($1.8 million) / 133,068
12/20 - Sun.: ¥202,627,400 ($2.0 million) / 148,780
12/21 - Mon.: ¥x70,000,000 ($0.7 million) / x50,000 *est.*
12/22 - Tues.: ¥x65,000,000 ($0.6 million) / x45,000 *est.*
12/23 - Wed.: ¥x90,000,000 ($0.9 million) / x65,000 *est.*
69-Day Cumulative Total: ¥31,391,647,900 ($299.6 million) / 23,335,884
Note: Mon.-Fri. are rounded estimates (excluding Holiday Mondays), therefore adding up each day won't equal the actual total.
Final Countdown: ~¥289 million remaining to become the new #1 film of all-time.
Console gamers who grew up on the box need to stop trying to make a digital rental service be the "it". These services are made to morpth, once in a leadership position marketshare wise, as the box killer. Look at Luna, or Stadia. Amazon or Google don't even pretend - like MS.
Stop falling into MS's Marketing Trap. No one gave a shit when Gamefly was doing it on physical, and Gamefly has all the exclusive catalog of Nintendo/Sony/MS combined Day 1. If you go by MS marketing big talk then you would come out with the impression that they're the most dominant player in the market.... when in fact they're lowly third on the console space, beaten by Apple on the smartphone space, and eaten alive by Steam on PC - their own platform.
If you've grown up on the traditional model, and like it, then the best thing you can do is to stop talking about the future you don't want to see - a subscription dominated environment. You're just doing the work for them by keeping this topic around. And also support the platforms that represent the traditional model best. This urge and pressure.... like teens falling to peer pressure doing dumb shit.
Insane amount of Content, as you can see many are Streaming on Amazon / Netflix / Hulu / NBC etc or on live TV, a Sony service would presumably make all of it "exclusive" which means higher risk and LESS people watching.
As for movies, insane catalog and more to come, making them exclusive to Sony+ and not arriving on Cinemas would also be a money pitt.
As for Anime, Sony will now have the biggest movie EVER in Japan With Demon Slayer, again making it exclusive to a Sub would have lost them millions.
Then it will turn into something akin HBO Max, who suffers from the subscribers coming and leaving depending on the show. It has ~13 mil. subscribers right now. In comparison to 80+ for Disney or 100+ for others it is basically nothing. But of course unlike HBO Sony has anime and music (TV I don't count because its output varies, but Sony it seems to be trying to marry its TV division with gaming so maybe will something good will happen) so it is much bigger ceiling and bigger flexibility like having separate subscriptions for movies, all anime, music, combinations, gaming etc. However we cannot count all that stuff as GamePass competitor because GamePass is more about gaming, rather than other stuff.What I have in mind is a more modest orginal output bolstered by anime and game streaming.
What Sony has is an incredible flexibility because it produces now movies (output is miser but whatever), music (one the biggest publishers in the world), games (PS+ and PS Now), anime (Funimation, Crunchyroll). So it can create various combinations anime + music, music + movies, movies.+ anime, anime + gaming, anime + streaming etc.I don't agree that it will have to cost $20-$30. Right now Funimation cost $6, PSNow is $5-$10. Adding movies and shows for the over-all package should not increase cost that much specially if the goal is to get at half the subscribers of Netflix.
Funnily enough, Sony actually always does smart moves regarding Playstation but fails at everything else. So if Playstation will spearhead everything else something good may come out.It would be a smart move, I doubt they'll do it.
Console gamers who grew up on the box need to stop trying to make a digital rental service be the "it".
Stop falling into MS's Marketing Trap.
If you've grown up on the traditional model, and like it, then the best thing you can do is to stop talking about the future you don't want to see - a subscription dominated environment.
You're just doing the work for them by keeping this topic around. And also support the platforms that represent the traditional model best. This urge and pressure.... like teens falling to peer pressure doing dumb shit.
Is there any bigger subscription based model for games at the moment than Gamepass with 15 million subs? I don’t think Stadia, PSNow, Luna or GeForce now pull those numbers but maybe you have some data?Console gamers who grew up on the box need to stop trying to make a digital rental service be the "it". These services are made to morpth, once in a leadership position marketshare wise, as the box killer. Look at Luna, or Stadia. Amazon or Google don't even pretend - like MS.
Stop falling into MS's Marketing Trap. No one gave a shit when Gamefly was doing it on physical, and Gamefly has the exclusive catalog of Nintendo/Sony/MS combined Day 1. If you go by MS marketing big talk then you would come out with the impression that they're the most dominant player in the market.... when in fact they're lowly third on the console space, beaten by Apple on the smartphone space, and eaten alive by Steam on PC - their own platform.
If you've grown up on the traditional model, and like it, then the best thing you can do is to stop talking about the future you don't want to see - a subscription dominated environment. You're just doing the work for them by keeping this topic around. And also support the platforms that represent the traditional model best. This urge and pressure.... like teens falling to peer pressure doing dumb shit.
Then it will turn into something akin HBO Max, who suffers from the subscribers coming and leaving depending on the show. It has ~13 mil. subscribers right now. In comparison to 80+ for Disney or 100+ for others it is basically nothing. But of course unlike HBO Sony has anime and music (TV I don't count because its output varies, but Sony it seems to be trying to marry its TV division with gaming so maybe will something good will happen) so it is much bigger ceiling and bigger flexibility like having separate subscriptions for movies, all anime, music, combinations, gaming etc. However we cannot count all that stuff as GamePass competitor because GamePass is more about gaming, rather than other stuff.
It is similar to Disney+ in that regards and can show incredible growth at once, but it will be mainly driven by other content (probably, because hard to say how attractive Sony's media content for people who might stick to Spotify and Netflix for example) rather than gaming.
What Sony has is an incredible flexibility because it produces now movies (output is miser but whatever), music (one the biggest publishers in the world), games (PS+ and PS Now), anime (Funimation, Crunchyroll). So it can create various combinations anime + music, music + movies, movies.+ anime, anime + gaming, anime + streaming etc.
I fully expect common (it has now two mouths to feed - Funimation and Crunchyroll) anime service for 8-10$ per month at most. Or maybe at least lol. Without anything. PS+ yearly is around 6$. PS Now+ is around 6$ yearly too. So their combo will be 10$ too. Maybe more. But for the whole. So even combined yearly subscription for anime + the whole gaming will be around 20$ in the cheapest form (yearly package). Monthly it can go straightly to 25-30$ for everything (extrapolate the current monthly prices). And it doesn't include movies or music. Let's say music is 5$ per month and movies is 5$ per month.
For PS Now and Anime - it will probably be around 15-18$
For PS+ and Anime (doesn't make sense though) - it will be probably also be 15-18$.
For PS+ and PS Now and Anime - 20-25$
Ok, estimations are rough but basically it won't be cheap.Now, another card is that all our estimations relied on the idea that the infrastructure won't require update. Which is not true. And producing content is also not free. For PS Now is a half-assed service so it can go with the current state of affairs, but when going into streaming seriously it won't be enough and it won't retain the same price. 100%.
Funnily enough, Sony actually always does smart moves regarding Playstation but fails at everything else. So if Playstation will spearhead everything else something good may come out.
All in all, it is interesting mental gymnastic especially if don't dive into fanboyism.
LoL no. This year is outlier because Sony did all of that for PS5 release. Compare it with basically empty 2019. In fact both 2020-2021 are outliners as they are PS5 release dates. In general it has 2 big releases per year - UC4 + TLG -> Horizon + GT Sport -> GoW + Spiderman -> Days Gone. This year is exceptional with GoT + MM + DS + TLOU2 basically 4 big releases (some for PS5 only). Also for putting the third-party game on your streaming service, it requires additional pay - aside moneyhating not to release on other console or PC. Small game and third party single player games do not attract subscribers that much - you need bigger hitters for that.Dreams
Ni Oh 2
GoT
Last of Us 2
Miles Morales
Astro
SackBoy
Demon´s Souls
FF VII as exclusive
That's why I said that Disney+ announced a lot of new shows because it lacks new content - despite having a huge growth at once - it mostly happened due to nostalgia, expectation of Marvel content output etc. and with COVID, as you can see aside Mandalorian there is no new worthy content.+ where is all that Content on D+? i´ve been subbed and haven´t seen anything there with exception of Mandalorian worth watching (that is new).
Anime division is strong, no doubt about that.Again you think Sony couldn´t produce Originals at that pace just shows how minsinformed you really are, these guys own Columbia, Tristar, Aniplex, Funi, Crunchy etc.
Then it will turn into something akin HBO Max, who suffers from the subscribers coming and leaving depending on the show. It has ~13 mil. subscribers right now. In comparison to 80+ for Disney or 100+ for others it is basically nothing.
However we cannot count all that stuff as GamePass competitor because GamePass is more about gaming, rather than other stuff.
It is similar to Disney+ in that regards and can show incredible growth at once, but it will be mainly driven by other content (probably, because hard to say how attractive Sony's media content for people who might stick to Spotify and Netflix for example) rather than gaming.
For PS Now and Anime - it will probably be around 15-18$
For PS+ and Anime (doesn't make sense though) - it will be probably also be 15-18$.
For PS+ and PS Now and Anime - 20-25$
LoL no. This year is outlier because Sony did all of that for PS5 release. Compare it with basically empty 2019. In fact both 2020-2021 are outliners as they are PS5 release dates. In general it has 2 big releases per year - UC4 + TLG -> Horizon + GT Sport -> GoW + Spiderman -> Days Gone. This year is exceptional with GoT + MM + DS + TLOU2 basically 4 big releases (some for PS5 only). Also for putting the third-party game on your streaming service, it requires additional pay - aside moneyhating not to release on other console or PC. Small game and third party single player games do not attract subscribers that much - you need bigger hitters for that.
That's why I said that Disney+ announced a lot of new shows because it lacks new content - despite having a huge growth at once - it mostly happened due to nostalgia, expectation of Marvel content output etc. and with COVID, as you can see aside Mandalorian there is no new worthy content.
Anime division is strong, no doubt about that.
Also v_iHuGi don't forget to pray to Sony regularly It fascinating how SDF always come in full force defending what Sony is doing or not doing, then if Sony does the same thing - it will suddenly become something they wanted or expected. It fascinating
I think in long run gaming streaming will have huge numbers and movies too, that market is growing and for a lot countries gaming is becoming too expensive hobby and the opening markets are hugely skewed towards mobile, PCs and online. It will be fascinating, Sony has a lot of options.It might not do Netflix numbers. But it doesn't have to. The content and pricing will determine its success.
Sony has recently bought Crunchyroll. If they roll out a single service, do you really think that the price stays the same? Of course not.I don't agree with your price. That would be suicide.
1. Sony will not be spending as much as Netflix.
2. Game streaming is basically free as they are crumbles from the gaming division. (The cost will come from servers to run the games.)
3. Funimation costs $5.99.
I'm sticking with $8.99 (1 screen) and $17.99 (4 screens)
Anecdotally, Sony does not have that big presence in TV - not on the level of Disney+ which has legendary legacy and Marvel + Star Wars. What was the last good thing from Sony Pictures? I bet a lot of people don't even remember that they also produce moviesI'm not defending Sony, I'm not a fan of many things they do like Anime Monopoly but there's no deny they've a huge presence in TV & can easily match others outputs if needed, AGAIN not Happening but possible.
But what do you include in your price of 9$? PS Now + Anime? Single PS Now costs that amount of money (don't count yearly bundle) in its limited scope and infrastructure. So it won't be less than 10$, I am believe it will be at least 12$ if include Now + Anime or whatever, but even then - Funimation is 6, Crunchyroll is 8 -> 6 + 8 = 14 so it will be around 10-12$.
First, I wouldn't pay a dime more for those added services unless Netflix is included.
To be a true competitor to GamePass
Heck I don't think they have the cash to offer more large third party developers for subsidies either to be on "Sony+".
You also don't want to be in debt. Running services, creating content is not cheap.That's not how you compute if you are aiming for at least half the subscriber number of Netflix.
You need to reach those numbers first.It doesn't matter if it's $9 if you're doing 50-100 million subscribers
No, the price is pretty fair there no? They have different plans and even started to increase the price of it. The lowest price is still 9$ though. And we are talking about netflix who has 100 million subscribers and was running on debt until recently or something. I don't remember the price for Amazon Prime Video but probably similar, and Disney+ is 7$ but they relied on a lot of old content before, let's see what price will be the next year.You don't compute Netflix subscription price by looking at their operational cost. 30 shows a month for $9, are you kidding me?
There is a logic on how much does everything costs. Even if Sony is able to lower it, it won't have 9$ for PS Now + Anime.You have to compute using the target number of subscribers not how much the services cost right now. Because those services costs the way they do rihht now because of the small amount of subscribers and it doesn't make sense to operate them at a loss.
Their anime and movie division won't able to compete with that in its current stateThis will be competiting against Disney+ which has 80+ million subscriber and Netflix with 200 million subscribers.
You also don't want to be in debt. Running services, creating content is not cheap.
You need to reach those numbers first.
No, the price is pretty fair there no?
And we are talking about netflix who has 100 million subscribers and was running on debt until recently or something.
There is a logic on how much does everything costs.
Their anime and movie division won't able to compete with that in its current state
2 years for the AAAs? Too much.
I get that some people like anime, but no, just no.
The most popular plan as far as I recall is the second one and its price has been increased or planned to increase recently$9/month, about 30 shows per month for Netflix? Ask the 200 million subscribers
Erm, all subscription services rely and relied on internal production. Netflix learnt it hard way though. So it is not the argument. Actually, licensing a movie might be cheaper but I am not sure.1. Good shows from Sony Pictures. (Internal production = less cost)
Both services has less than 10 mil. combined and they had prices like 6-7$ per month. Anime of course is growing but I do not expect explosive growth for now. Don't forget that other streaming providers also have their own anime series.2. Lots of anime. (Both crunchyroll and funimation have free version with ads. Anime is not a money pit.)
Does not look exciting and what appealed the most and created waves in game streaming is MS appeal to release first party games 1 day. That's what created the waves. Not - [I may give some modern games in the future just subscribe].3. Monthly games with ocassional 2-year old or so first party AAA games. Ocassional AA day 1 release. (Initially it will only really appeal to PS4/PS5 owners. But once game streaming becomes more common in the future, casual gamers who don't or won't own a console because they're not much of a gamer will find a lot of value in this.)
Haha, GamePass has just started rolling out across the world - ok it is not even that started yet - but I fully expected at least 30 mil. by the end of 2021. Maybe more. You are underestimating the size of gaming market for some reason.Also don't expect 200 million subscribers. This will have less. But expect better number than gamepass.
Ads bring a lot of money. Also a lot of people - like me with Spotify - eventually switch to premium.Anime should not be a money pit considering both Crunchyroll and Funimation has free versions with ads.
Actually I don't think they make that much TV series. Maybe around 15 per year? And don't forget that they do not produce them alone but they are paid by HBO, Amazon, Apple, Netflix to do that. It would be interesting to see how much they will be able to produce on their own without external support.Again, Sony makes a lot of shows for TV and other streaming apps. They can easily capitalize on those unless their client wants exclusivity and willing to pay large money.
The most popular plan as far as I recall is the second one and its price has been increased or planned to increase recently
Erm, all subscription services rely and relied on internal production.
Actually, licensing a movie might be cheaper but I am not sure.
Both services has less than 10 mil. combined and they had prices like 6-7$ per month. Anime of course is growing but I do not expect explosive growth for now. Don't forget that other streaming providers also have their own anime series.
Does not look exciting
and what appealed the most and created waves in game streaming is MS appeal to release first party games 1 day. That's what created the waves. Not - [I may give some modern games in the future just subscribe].
Haha, GamePass has just started rolling out across the world - ok it is not even that started yet - but I fully expected at least 30 mil. by the end of 2021. Maybe more. You are underestimating the size of gaming market for some reason.
Actually I don't think they make that much TV series. Maybe around 15 per year? And don't forget that they do not produce them alone but they are paid by HBO, Amazon, Apple, Netflix to do that. It would be interesting to see how much they will be able to produce on their own without external support.
I think in long run gaming streaming will have huge numbers and movies too, that market is growing and for a lot countries gaming is becoming too expensive hobby and the opening markets are hugely skewed towards mobile, PCs and online. It will be fascinating, Sony has a lot of options.
Sony has recently bought Crunchyroll. If they roll out a single service, do you really think that the price stays the same? Of course not.
Game streaming is not free - why it should be? - and it currently costs 6$ for example for Amazon (who owns cloud infrastructure). Which similar price to PS Now with its current limited scope and infrastructure. Nothing is free. In Stadia you for example have to buy games (but I am curious if their current [free] plan is long or short term solution to get subscribers)
But what do you include in your price of 9$? PS Now + Anime? Single PS Now costs that amount of money (don't count yearly bundle) in its limited scope and infrastructure. So it won't be less than 10$, I am believe it will be at least 12$ if include Now + Anime or whatever, but even then - Funimation is 6, Crunchyroll is 8 -> 6 + 8 = 14 so it will be around 10-12$.
Anecdotally, Sony does not have that big presence in TV - not on the level of Disney+ which has legendary legacy and Marvel + Star Wars. What was the last good thing from Sony Pictures? I bet a lot of people don't even remember that they also produce movies
Hard to sell what? It got 5 mil. over couple of months. Among gaming community - to be honest - nobody is playing mobile games yet...I'm not understimating the size of gaming market. You might be overestimating the amount of people willing to rent games from MS. I'm just not convinced that even among the gaming community, game streaming will be widely adopted. If among the gaming crowd gamepass at $10 is a hard sell, how much harder would be among the casual gamers?
People don't know which studio produced Spider man, but they know that it is available on Playstation and it sells well, because it is a good game. Same with Boys - doesn't matter who produced them, but it is available on Amazon Prime Video (Also the good TV series, I don't watch it though).Who cares if people doesn't know who produces it, what matters is the billions in net profit entering each year. Most people don't know Which studios Playstation Studios own you think Jim cares if people know who makes Spider Man!?
So? By the same logic, the trials, free tiers in other services mean those services also don't work despite having 50+ mil. subscribers.+ GamePass currently 1€ = 3 months Ultimate, service is not doing what MS wants or you would never be this aggressive.
Do I sound aggressive? I couldn't tell. Interesting.you would never be this aggressive.
What I am pointing is that Sony entering movie streaming market won't create Disney level ripples.
Hard to sell what? It got 5 mil. over couple of months. Among gaming community - to be honest - nobody is playing mobile games yet...
People don't know which studio produced Spider man, but they know that it is available on Playstation and it sells well, because it is a good game. Same with Boys - doesn't matter who produced them, but it is available on Amazon Prime Video (Also the good TV series, I don't watch it though).
What I am pointing is that Sony entering movie streaming market won't create Disney level ripples. They have strong presence in gaming due to Playstation and basically only there. It is big by itself of course - like Amazon Roku - but does not necessary translates into tens millions subscribers jumping there.
So? By the same logic, the trials, free tiers in other services mean those services also don't work despite having 50+ mil. subscribers.
Do I sound aggressive? I couldn't tell. Interesting.
P.S. all that conversations bring me back to the talks about nobody plays online when Xbox Live appeared, nobody likes digital etc. All in all, we will see who is right or wrong by 2022-2023 I think.