Collateral22
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Geoff Keighley: Scorpio rumored to cost $499 (he's right, flawless victory)
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hououinkyouma00
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If true
While $499 isn't inherently bad for what its supposed to be, there's a couple problems with that price.
>PS4pro is $399 (probably cheaper come E3 with Scorpio announced) and while its not as powerful it is the leading console so it doesn't need much to keep the huge lead PS4 has.
>Microsoft if they want Scorpio to make a difference need something to blow people away that price is still $100 higher then the competition with more people playing.
>Finally what I mentioned above with Sony likely cutting the price even if its like to $379 make it over $100. People will see the $300 not go well its still basically $400
I mean I'm still interested in seeing what it will be though as it could be cool. Owning a PC I don't have much use for a Xbox
While $499 isn't inherently bad for what its supposed to be, there's a couple problems with that price.
>PS4pro is $399 (probably cheaper come E3 with Scorpio announced) and while its not as powerful it is the leading console so it doesn't need much to keep the huge lead PS4 has.
>Microsoft if they want Scorpio to make a difference need something to blow people away that price is still $100 higher then the competition with more people playing.
>Finally what I mentioned above with Sony likely cutting the price even if its like to $379 make it over $100. People will see the $300 not go well its still basically $400
I mean I'm still interested in seeing what it will be though as it could be cool. Owning a PC I don't have much use for a Xbox
Unless they keep Halo Xbox exclusive...
Please let Halo 6 be good unlike 5...
Crimsonsky
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If they had the PS4 lineup of games then I could see 500 bucks. With the dearth of content on the horizon and the lackluster current offerings it isn't looking good. I mean the beginning of this year was madness for PS4. It's been a ghost town for XBox One.
LFMartins86
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Don't forget the state of the art cooling solution.
We'll see.
We get that point. I think a lot of people are struggling to understand why so much hype was put on the Scorpio to begin with if this was never meant to take over the Xbox line. They've been building hype for this thing for over a year and saying this is the console they built by listening to the gamers. Scorpio is the only thing I think Xbox execs were talking about rather than new games for customers that already bought an Xbox One. MS can't just point out that this is a premium console and point towards an Xbox One S when there's backlash over the price.
ArkhamFantasy
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Consoles dont drop in price by $100 every year. This console uses premium parts so its getting a premium price.
And a year late ?
Obliterator
Member
If Scorpio really is $499 at launch I expect it basically DOA after the first couple months when the hardcore pick it up. Crazy high price point compared to the competition and no where near enough exclusive content to carry it.
Terrible move by MS imo
Terrible move by MS imo
I'm not arguing that. I'm arguing that the Pro's specs cost as much to manufacture on launch as the Scorpio does now.
Jessie.Bristol
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I have said it before, there is no way Microsoft can charge $499 for this. They will be pricing themselves out of the market. They cannot charge $499 and remain competitive against the PS4 Pro, especially since Sony would be in a unique position to drop the Pro by $50 leaving a $150 gap between the two consoles.
Real Big Ballers would get both
I agree with this. Bad look for Geoff if Scorpio is not 499. He'll seem like part of the MS marketing arm.
Hawk269
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Maybe Geoff is 100% accurate and it is $499.99. But, what "IF" that is for the 2TB version of the system? When the Xbox One S came out. the launch edition which had a 2TB HDD was $399.99. Perhaps this $499.99 is the 2TB version of Scorpio and the 1TB version will be $399.99???
It is possible and Geoff would still be accurate.
It is possible and Geoff would still be accurate.
Exactly, I don't know what to believe.
NoctisVsStar
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It's most likely a curve ball for us to act surprised later, cheap but effective tactic against the horde of sheeps. I still think it's 399.99.
Slayer-33
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I really don't this is the strategy with the Scorpio.
The mental gymnastics on display in this thread deserves a gold medal
Boggles my mind how many gaffers want to go to bat for a video game company
Kibbles
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Pro will be a year old when this comes out, likely will have a price drop
Spencer himself has already said something along the lines of it being priced high and look at the specs. And you should look at the gaffers that have these 'negative reactions' because most were going to find something to complain about per usual.
But I'll let y'all cook though
Bubba_Sparks
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My initial impression is that seems a little high, but if it is marketed as a premium product then it might work out for them.
But I think MS wants more than a premium console. As stated above, they want a reason for consumers to jump to the Xbox ecosystem. Maybe they are willing to sell at a loss like the OG and bet on subs? Live, game pass.
Conspiracy theory: I feel this is a controlled leak by MS for two possible reasons:
1) To set the expectations, due to them not expecting $399 speculation to become rampant by that below $400 build a robot magazine cover that was nothing more than coincidence.
2) To set higher expectations and create some more hype for the actual lower price is announced.
Either way, I don't believe Geoff is lying, this is legitimately based on the info he's getting.
1) To set the expectations, due to them not expecting $399 speculation to become rampant by that below $400 build a robot magazine cover that was nothing more than coincidence.
2) To set higher expectations and create some more hype for the actual lower price is announced.
Either way, I don't believe Geoff is lying, this is legitimately based on the info he's getting.
I've been seeing a lot of this. Why do people think they are going to price drop the Pro? There isn't a need to yet. Higher end consumers are the ones picking that up and they most likely want to get as much money out of them as they can.
If Scorpio isn't a mass market console, what is its strategic goal?
Is it a way of rebranding Microsoft as the powerful box that doesn't sell like the PS3?
Even the Pro can't compete with the PS4 slim. Games are launching with negligible Pro Enhancements, etc. This is coming from the market leader.
Is it a way of rebranding Microsoft as the powerful box that doesn't sell like the PS3?
Even the Pro can't compete with the PS4 slim. Games are launching with negligible Pro Enhancements, etc. This is coming from the market leader.
Even crazier:
Imagine releasing a console today at 699+ USD...
They did if you go way back, $599 in 2006 is still further down the list of high console prices than you'd think, factoring in inflation.
The Atari 2600 and Intellivision were each considerably more expensive. Think about that.
Always-honest
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Yeah... and the Pro is 350?
Diprosalic
Banned
A year later and from a company who wants to make a splash? Yeah.
Maybe they gave him permission to get the bad news out of the way because they have good content for the conference and don't want it to get ignored/overshadowed. Only thing that makes sense to me. Geoff wouldn't put out false info on something concrete like price but he also wouldn't do it if he thought it would really hurt a major industry relationship of his.
The Mad Draklor
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For some reason, I feel that he's pulling our leg and purposely lowering people's expectations.
ethomaz
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Because he saw the slides... or at least somebody saw.
Mr. Lemming
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$500 with an elite controller and a 1TB 7200rpm HD or hybrid HD wouldn't be too bad.
I expected $450 but with the work they have put into it 499 isn't insane like it was with XBO original. It will be hard to get moving with that price point even if they bundle it to hell. Hopefully they were reduce it pretty quickly and just going the full price for the initial upgraders.
Dee Dah Dave
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Consoles sell at $400, no matter how good they are. That's just the way it is. You convince people to jump in the ecosystem and then make money on software and subscriptions. At $499 they will just sell to a couple of million core Xbox fans and that's it. And those already own an XB1 so no gains in software sale there. It doesn't make sense.
The price can of course come down in the following years. But people don't wait, they just buy a PS4 Pro instead.
The price can of course come down in the following years. But people don't wait, they just buy a PS4 Pro instead.
This was so obvious. When I saw that thing yesterday which suggested a price of $399 I was shocked and impressed. Impressed because it showed MS realised that anything over $450 would be DOA, and that they weren't just using 'Premium' as code for expensive. And shocked because to price it sensibly was so not like Microsoft.
So if it's $499 it'll be disappointing but totally in line with MS and how they do business.
So if it's $499 it'll be disappointing but totally in line with MS and how they do business.
ClosingADoor
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You don't set a controlled leak that gets a negative reaction, only to then put the worries you created in the first place at ease in your presentation. That makes no sense for marketing.
GinoFelino
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If Scorpio launches at 499, it won't have to.
If Scorpio is 399, the keyword​ is 'yet'
DenogginizerOS
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Is the assumption that Geoff has confirmed with someone at Microsoft that the price is $499?